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	<title>Comments on: Democratic Leaders&#8217; Letter to Bush on Iraq</title>
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		<title>By: The Moderate Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How did we get here?</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Moderate Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How did we get here?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 04:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Reports indicate that President George W. Bush will issue his &#8220;The Decider&#8221; statement that the correct strategy in Iraq is for a so-called &#8220;surge&#8221; of troops to retake control of the situation in that troubled land. The new, Democratic leadership in Congress have sent a letter to the President indicating that they will not support any troop increases in Iraq. Some commentators, while admitting their intitial analysis indicates the &#8220;surge&#8221; is unwise, also claim that &#8220;it&#8217;s silly to argue that it has &#8216;already [been] tried and that has already failed.&#8217;&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Reports indicate that President George W. Bush will issue his &#8220;The Decider&#8221; statement that the correct strategy in Iraq is for a so-called &#8220;surge&#8221; of troops to retake control of the situation in that troubled land. The new, Democratic leadership in Congress have sent a letter to the President indicating that they will not support any troop increases in Iraq. Some commentators, while admitting their intitial analysis indicates the &#8220;surge&#8221; is unwise, also claim that &#8220;it&#8217;s silly to argue that it has &#8216;already [been] tried and that has already failed.&#8217;&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: How did we get here? &#124; Random Fate</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/democratic_leaders_letter_to_bush_on_iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-109005</link>
		<dc:creator>How did we get here? &#124; Random Fate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 04:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Reports indicate that President George W. Bush will issue his &#8220;The Decider&#8221; statement that the correct strategy in Iraq is for a so-called &#8220;surge&#8221; of troops to retake control of the situation in that troubled land. The new, Democratic leadership in Congress have sent a letter to the President indicating that they will not support any troop increases in Iraq. Some commentators, while admitting their intitial analysis indicates the &#8220;surge&#8221; is unwise, also claim that &#8220;it&#8217;s silly to argue that it has &#8216;already [been] tried and that has already failed.&#8217;&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Reports indicate that President George W. Bush will issue his &#8220;The Decider&#8221; statement that the correct strategy in Iraq is for a so-called &#8220;surge&#8221; of troops to retake control of the situation in that troubled land. The new, Democratic leadership in Congress have sent a letter to the President indicating that they will not support any troop increases in Iraq. Some commentators, while admitting their intitial analysis indicates the &#8220;surge&#8221; is unwise, also claim that &#8220;it&#8217;s silly to argue that it has &#8216;already [been] tried and that has already failed.&#8217;&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: An Interested Party</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Interested Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 03:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly it couldn&#039;t have been the same person who wrote that WSJ editorial for President Bush...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly it couldn't have been the same person who wrote that WSJ editorial for President Bush...</p>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 20:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pelosi&amp;reid wrote a letter? That&#039;s the incredible part of this. C&#039;mon who really wrote it for them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pelosi&amp;reid wrote a letter? That's the incredible part of this. C'mon who really wrote it for them?</p>
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		<title>By: djneylon</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/democratic_leaders_letter_to_bush_on_iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-108855</link>
		<dc:creator>djneylon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 14:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what happens when the imperial Congress that has been building since the mid-60s finally gets drunk with power...they micro-manage nearly every executive responsibility with incredibly detailed legislation and endless hearings, they have hijacked foreign policy which is not in their job description (see the Constitution, then explain how the War Powers act, resolutions on Central America, demands for input in trade negotiations, and constant harping on first and second Gulf wars comply), and their endless efforts to tell us poor benighted knuckle-dragging taxpayers that we are too stupid to know what we should drive, where we should live and what we should eat, along with what our children should learn, what our morals should be and what we should do with our money.  Now they are smarter than combined wisdom of the Department of Defense, the CIA, the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the White House.  Let&#039;s put the wisdom of congress to good use and ask them to cure cancer or AIDS or global warming or poverty while we&#039;re at it.  It&#039;s good to know that Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid have all the answers.  Now I can sleep at night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what happens when the imperial Congress that has been building since the mid-60s finally gets drunk with power...they micro-manage nearly every executive responsibility with incredibly detailed legislation and endless hearings, they have hijacked foreign policy which is not in their job description (see the Constitution, then explain how the War Powers act, resolutions on Central America, demands for input in trade negotiations, and constant harping on first and second Gulf wars comply), and their endless efforts to tell us poor benighted knuckle-dragging taxpayers that we are too stupid to know what we should drive, where we should live and what we should eat, along with what our children should learn, what our morals should be and what we should do with our money.  Now they are smarter than combined wisdom of the Department of Defense, the CIA, the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the White House.  Let's put the wisdom of congress to good use and ask them to cure cancer or AIDS or global warming or poverty while we're at it.  It's good to know that Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid have all the answers.  Now I can sleep at night.</p>
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		<title>By: Mensa Barbie Welcomes You</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mensa Barbie Welcomes You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 03:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Sheehahanoid Tracking- WWP Backing...&lt;/strong&gt;

Troop vilification efforts and withdrawal pressure sent via satellite throughout the insurgence of the Middle East?!  A glance at the Marxist/Leninists backer- origins of Sheehanoid Anti-War. James Joyner gives his reaction to: Democratic Leaders Le....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Sheehahanoid Tracking- WWP Backing...</strong></p>
<p>Troop vilification efforts and withdrawal pressure sent via satellite throughout the insurgence of the Middle East?!  A glance at the Marxist/Leninists backer- origins of Sheehanoid Anti-War. James Joyner gives his reaction to: Democratic Leaders Le....</p>
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		<title>By: The Moderate Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Democrats Oppose Useless Surge</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/democratic_leaders_letter_to_bush_on_iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-108800</link>
		<dc:creator>The Moderate Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Democrats Oppose Useless Surge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 11:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] James Joyner: While the polls do seem to show that, it’s hardly the case that the elections “demonstrated” this. Indeed, it’s generally hard to say that midterm elections demonstrate much of anything in the aggregate, since they’re a series of one-on-one match-ups. While there was a general “we need change” motif to the campaign, there was hardly a coherent platform. For that matter, not every Democrat who won the election supports the Pelosi-Reid position on the war. [&#8230;] That our “troops have been pushed to the breaking point” is hardly an established “fact.” As to many of them having served multiple tours, it is, after all, their job to fight their country’s wars. [&#8230;] Although I’m willing to be sold, I think a surge at this point is a bad idea. Still, it’s silly to argue that it has “already [been] tried and that has already failed.” In the early days of the war, critics were complaining that that Bush and company had sent too few troops. When, exactly, did we try a surge? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] James Joyner: While the polls do seem to show that, it&rsquo;s hardly the case that the elections “demonstrated” this. Indeed, it&rsquo;s generally hard to say that midterm elections demonstrate much of anything in the aggregate, since they&rsquo;re a series of one-on-one match-ups. While there was a general “we need change” motif to the campaign, there was hardly a coherent platform. For that matter, not every Democrat who won the election supports the Pelosi-Reid position on the war. [&#8230;] That our “troops have been pushed to the breaking point” is hardly an established “fact.” As to many of them having served multiple tours, it is, after all, their job to fight their country&rsquo;s wars. [&#8230;] Although I&rsquo;m willing to be sold, I think a surge at this point is a bad idea. Still, it&rsquo;s silly to argue that it has “already [been] tried and that has already failed.” In the early days of the war, critics were complaining that that Bush and company had sent too few troops. When, exactly, did we try a surge? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 10:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

The more I think about your remarks, the more laughable they become. There was near universal agreement going in to the election that it was all about Iraq. The well funded, well trained GOP organization, with a huge spending advantage and complete control of the government, got their heads handed to them. It was not &quot;one on one&quot; it was a near tidal wave. Ask Richard Pombo. I think we all know how often incumbent members of congress lose in years when it really is an election based on local issues.

As for midterms not meaning much, well what happened in &#039;94? Did Newt just have a good day at the track, with no larger context?

How about 2002? After Rove B-slapped the Democrats, did you go around telling everyone how little it meant?

While you are at it, why not blow a little smoke up our asses about &quot;the six year itch&quot;? Funny how it did not seem to affect Clinton and Reagan, who actually did a good job leading the country while in office.

I guess its no surprise you support Bush. You both dwell in some strange pocket universe where reality seems to play very little role.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>The more I think about your remarks, the more laughable they become. There was near universal agreement going in to the election that it was all about Iraq. The well funded, well trained GOP organization, with a huge spending advantage and complete control of the government, got their heads handed to them. It was not "one on one" it was a near tidal wave. Ask Richard Pombo. I think we all know how often incumbent members of congress lose in years when it really is an election based on local issues.</p>
<p>As for midterms not meaning much, well what happened in '94? Did Newt just have a good day at the track, with no larger context?</p>
<p>How about 2002? After Rove B-slapped the Democrats, did you go around telling everyone how little it meant?</p>
<p>While you are at it, why not blow a little smoke up our asses about "the six year itch"? Funny how it did not seem to affect Clinton and Reagan, who actually did a good job leading the country while in office.</p>
<p>I guess its no surprise you support Bush. You both dwell in some strange pocket universe where reality seems to play very little role.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/democratic_leaders_letter_to_bush_on_iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-108792</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 10:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven,

This President is pretty much of a legend for only hearing what he wants to hear. Why exactly do you find it hard to believe that he does not listen to contrarian advice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven,</p>
<p>This President is pretty much of a legend for only hearing what he wants to hear. Why exactly do you find it hard to believe that he does not listen to contrarian advice?</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 10:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea James, those troops who have done 3 tours, its their JOB to fight in this war against a country that threatend us in no way. Spoken like a true armchair warrior, dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea James, those troops who have done 3 tours, its their JOB to fight in this war against a country that threatend us in no way. Spoken like a true armchair warrior, dude.</p>
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		<title>By: freelancecritic</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/democratic_leaders_letter_to_bush_on_iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-108780</link>
		<dc:creator>freelancecritic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 03:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, gotta say... as a regular reader, this is one of the most treadbare and petty critiques you&#039;ve posted in a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, gotta say... as a regular reader, this is one of the most treadbare and petty critiques you've posted in a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Democrats Oppose American Victory in Iraq at Hennessy&#8217;s View</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/democratic_leaders_letter_to_bush_on_iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-108777</link>
		<dc:creator>Democrats Oppose American Victory in Iraq at Hennessy&#8217;s View</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 01:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I can only assume these idiots are Democrats.  If so, they must enjoy the news that their party’s Congressional leaders sent a letter to the President today admitting that they want the US to lose the war in Iraq. (See Outside the Beltway and judge for yourself.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I can only assume these idiots are Democrats.  If so, they must enjoy the news that their party&rsquo;s Congressional leaders sent a letter to the President today admitting that they want the US to lose the war in Iraq. (See Outside the Beltway and judge for yourself.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Plunk</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/democratic_leaders_letter_to_bush_on_iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-108774</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Plunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 00:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can the President be accused of not following &quot;all rational advice&quot; so many rational opinions are being bandied about?  Rational arguments can be made for increasing troop strength and decreasing troop strength.  Rational arguments can be made for many contrary approaches to the war.

Different generals have different ideas about what should or should not be done.  How can we listen to all of them and do what they want?  There will always be those who&#039;s ideas are rejected and used by the political opposition as &quot;proof&quot; the President is incompetent.

We have an active undermining of the confidence in our war time leader by people who politically oppose him and look to damage his party as well.  This is not good for our country.

As too many cooks spoil the broth we can expect too many generals to spoil the plan.  We can also expect too much open discussion of war plans to weaken whatever plan is chosen.

Failure to succeed does not necessarily mean ineptitude.  The difficulties of Iraq may be such that no plan will ever succeed but yet a plan must be put forward.  Plans also have to be adjusted or discarded throughout the process.

I find it hard to believe that our President is not listening to many advisers and working hard to remedy a tough situation.  I also find it hard to believe people are still calling every move he makes wrong.  That&#039;s what is not rational.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can the President be accused of not following "all rational advice" so many rational opinions are being bandied about?  Rational arguments can be made for increasing troop strength and decreasing troop strength.  Rational arguments can be made for many contrary approaches to the war.</p>
<p>Different generals have different ideas about what should or should not be done.  How can we listen to all of them and do what they want?  There will always be those who's ideas are rejected and used by the political opposition as "proof" the President is incompetent.</p>
<p>We have an active undermining of the confidence in our war time leader by people who politically oppose him and look to damage his party as well.  This is not good for our country.</p>
<p>As too many cooks spoil the broth we can expect too many generals to spoil the plan.  We can also expect too much open discussion of war plans to weaken whatever plan is chosen.</p>
<p>Failure to succeed does not necessarily mean ineptitude.  The difficulties of Iraq may be such that no plan will ever succeed but yet a plan must be put forward.  Plans also have to be adjusted or discarded throughout the process.</p>
<p>I find it hard to believe that our President is not listening to many advisers and working hard to remedy a tough situation.  I also find it hard to believe people are still calling every move he makes wrong.  That's what is not rational.</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/democratic_leaders_letter_to_bush_on_iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-108770</link>
		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 23:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billy,
Spot-on. Generals have been fired in the past by Presidents when they weren&#039;t running the war right/successfully. But what is there to do &lt;em&gt;when the President himself is the problem?&lt;/em&gt;

Steven may be upset that Congress is attempting to interfere in an Executive function, but if the President refuses to follow all rational advice, and continues to press forward down a path detrimental to national interests, he can only be removed by Congress - unless we can afford to wait another 2 years...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billy,<br />
Spot-on. Generals have been fired in the past by Presidents when they weren't running the war right/successfully. But what is there to do <em>when the President himself is the problem?</em></p>
<p>Steven may be upset that Congress is attempting to interfere in an Executive function, but if the President refuses to follow all rational advice, and continues to press forward down a path detrimental to national interests, he can only be removed by Congress - unless we can afford to wait another 2 years...</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 23:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is only being argued in public because Bush has demonstrated with ineptitude piled on ineptitude that he is so woefully out of touch that he won&#039;t listen to anyone in private who isn&#039;t telling him what he wants to hear.

This is the first salvo of the oncoming appropriations battle.  The difference between this and ISG is that, whereas the ISG was merely a bunch of greybeards telling the president what he ought to do, Congress weilds the power of the purse.  Not exactly the same context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is only being argued in public because Bush has demonstrated with ineptitude piled on ineptitude that he is so woefully out of touch that he won't listen to anyone in private who isn't telling him what he wants to hear.</p>
<p>This is the first salvo of the oncoming appropriations battle.  The difference between this and ISG is that, whereas the ISG was merely a bunch of greybeards telling the president what he ought to do, Congress weilds the power of the purse.  Not exactly the same context.</p>
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