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		<title>By: ew</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/did_obama_buy_the_presidency/comment-page-1/#comment-529501</link>
		<dc:creator>ew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I read somewhere that something like 90% of political candidates who win are the ones who spend more than their opponents. I think that might be more the case in state and smaller races where you don&#039;t have as much research done, so you vote for who you remember. The illuminati democrats did a better job of generally marketing and advertising themselves this year. I don&#039;t know if, in the chicken and egg debate, it was publicity from those who were excited, or publicity that made others excited. I&#039;d be interested to hear a professional analyst&#039;s opinion on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I read somewhere that something like 90% of political candidates who win are the ones who spend more than their opponents. I think that might be more the case in state and smaller races where you don't have as much research done, so you vote for who you remember. The illuminati democrats did a better job of generally marketing and advertising themselves this year. I don't know if, in the chicken and egg debate, it was publicity from those who were excited, or publicity that made others excited. I'd be interested to hear a professional analyst's opinion on this.</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Honesty, integrity, morals. Just words to a democrat. They have no meaning.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

HAHAHAheeheeheehee...

After the past 8 years Zelsdorf, GA, I have to ask, just exactly what do they mean to a Bush Republican??????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Honesty, integrity, morals. Just words to a democrat. They have no meaning.</p></blockquote>
<p>HAHAHAheeheeheehee...</p>
<p>After the past 8 years Zelsdorf, GA, I have to ask, just exactly what do they mean to a Bush Republican??????</p>
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		<title>By: odograph</title>
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		<dc:creator>odograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Won&#039;t happen till we use it against them and win.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I honestly don&#039;t think it&#039;s big enough for that.

Most people will give politicians some grudging points for &quot;desire to win.&quot;

Yes, from your perspective Obama should have put principle before winning ... but certainly everyone who just won with him is going to see it the other way.  Perhaps even some on the right will admit that they would have done exactly the same thing.

I mean, James wrote in the new thread &quot;McCain ultimately ran a pretty tough campaign, going negative when he had to.&quot;

Substitute &quot;Obama ultimately ran a pretty tough campaign, going for the money when he had the choice.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Won't happen till we use it against them and win.</p></blockquote>
<p>I honestly don't think it's big enough for that.</p>
<p>Most people will give politicians some grudging points for "desire to win."</p>
<p>Yes, from your perspective Obama should have put principle before winning ... but certainly everyone who just won with him is going to see it the other way.  Perhaps even some on the right will admit that they would have done exactly the same thing.</p>
<p>I mean, James wrote in the new thread "McCain ultimately ran a pretty tough campaign, going negative when he had to."</p>
<p>Substitute "Obama ultimately ran a pretty tough campaign, going for the money when he had the choice."</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Everyone should admit that Obama&#039;s reverse on this was a bad thing.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Won&#039;t happen till we use it against them and win. Then they Will propagandize it as if we were the first to do it and it&#039;s the wost thing ever,same thing the liberals always do in almost every situation. LIE,BlAME,LIE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Everyone should admit that Obama's reverse on this was a bad thing.</p></blockquote>
<p> Won't happen till we use it against them and win. Then they Will propagandize it as if we were the first to do it and it's the wost thing ever,same thing the liberals always do in almost every situation. LIE,BlAME,LIE.</p>
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		<title>By: odograph</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/did_obama_buy_the_presidency/comment-page-1/#comment-528912</link>
		<dc:creator>odograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 11:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you promise to talke public funding then don&#039;t because you can get more funds from public pandering, I say you have no integrity. But then we are talking about a democrat. Honesty, integrity, morals. Just words to a democrat. They have no meaning.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Everyone should admit that Obama&#039;s reverse on this was a bad thing.  Many of us though would also admit that it is fair within the range of things we call politics.

If politics are dirty, this was only a small to medium dirty incident.

Compare it to the way Obama&#039;s &quot;palling around with Terrorists&quot; is old news the day after the election, and no one really blames McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you promise to talke public funding then don't because you can get more funds from public pandering, I say you have no integrity. But then we are talking about a democrat. Honesty, integrity, morals. Just words to a democrat. They have no meaning.</p></blockquote>
<p>Everyone should admit that Obama's reverse on this was a bad thing.  Many of us though would also admit that it is fair within the range of things we call politics.</p>
<p>If politics are dirty, this was only a small to medium dirty incident.</p>
<p>Compare it to the way Obama's "palling around with Terrorists" is old news the day after the election, and no one really blames McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: odograph</title>
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		<dc:creator>odograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 11:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Those figures cited do not include favorable press coverage admitted by many in the press. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

This one also contains a correlation/causality tangle.

What if there WAS more favorable news?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Those figures cited do not include favorable press coverage admitted by many in the press. </p></blockquote>
<p>This one also contains a correlation/causality tangle.</p>
<p>What if there WAS more favorable news?</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you promise to talke public funding then don&#039;t because you can get more funds from public pandering, I say you have no integrity.  But then we are talking about a democrat.  Honesty, integrity, morals.  Just words to a democrat.  They have no meaning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you promise to talke public funding then don't because you can get more funds from public pandering, I say you have no integrity.  But then we are talking about a democrat.  Honesty, integrity, morals.  Just words to a democrat.  They have no meaning.</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 01:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Those figures cited do not include favorable press coverage admitted by many in the press. Post election mea culpa&#039;s are so easy to give after your candidate has won. While you may not be able to buy an election you may be able to win through sympathetic press coverage.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Steve, you have to differentiate between favorable and accurate (i know, hard to do when &quot;your&quot; guy is losing)  Pretty much all (left and right) agree that Obama ran a near flawless campaign, while McCain made several mistakes. If reporting the &lt;em&gt;truth&lt;/em&gt; under those circumstances (and remember, McCain entered this race as the &quot;Maverick&quot; darling of the press) is &quot;biased&quot;... we can use a little more bias in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Those figures cited do not include favorable press coverage admitted by many in the press. Post election mea culpa's are so easy to give after your candidate has won. While you may not be able to buy an election you may be able to win through sympathetic press coverage.</p></blockquote>
<p>Steve, you have to differentiate between favorable and accurate (i know, hard to do when "your" guy is losing)  Pretty much all (left and right) agree that Obama ran a near flawless campaign, while McCain made several mistakes. If reporting the <em>truth</em> under those circumstances (and remember, McCain entered this race as the "Maverick" darling of the press) is "biased"... we can use a little more bias in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Plunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Plunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 01:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those figures cited do not include favorable press coverage admitted by many in the press.  Post election mea culpa&#039;s are so easy to give after your candidate has won.  While you may not be able to buy an election you may be able to win through sympathetic press coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those figures cited do not include favorable press coverage admitted by many in the press.  Post election mea culpa's are so easy to give after your candidate has won.  While you may not be able to buy an election you may be able to win through sympathetic press coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 01:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d think Republicans would be the last people to bitch about &lt;em&gt;buying&lt;/em&gt; anything (and, yeah, that means you Bit).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'd think Republicans would be the last people to bitch about <em>buying</em> anything (and, yeah, that means you Bit).</p>
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		<title>By: capital L</title>
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		<dc:creator>capital L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don&#039;t recall anyone pondering whether or not George W. Bush, George H. W. Bush or Ronald Reagan &quot;bought&quot; the presidency.

All three had significant fund raising advantages over their opponents.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I really hope this was tongue-in-cheek--a simple Google news search of the New York Times&#039; archives yields articles hitting on the theme of a big money candidate &quot;buying the presidency&quot; stretching back into the 1800&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don't recall anyone pondering whether or not George W. Bush, George H. W. Bush or Ronald Reagan "bought" the presidency.</p>
<p>All three had significant fund raising advantages over their opponents.</p></blockquote>
<p>I really hope this was tongue-in-cheek--a simple Google news search of the New York Times' archives yields articles hitting on the theme of a big money candidate "buying the presidency" stretching back into the 1800's.</p>
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		<title>By: odograph</title>
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		<dc:creator>odograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the first to say &quot;correlation is not causation&quot; on this subject?

How would we ever disentangle the chance that a popular candidate would attract (and spend) more money, from the chance that a candidate with a lot of money would become more popular?

(Maybe if Obama started with a small amount and it snowballed, that would be an argument that popularity bred money and not vis-versa?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the first to say "correlation is not causation" on this subject?</p>
<p>How would we ever disentangle the chance that a popular candidate would attract (and spend) more money, from the chance that a candidate with a lot of money would become more popular?</p>
<p>(Maybe if Obama started with a small amount and it snowballed, that would be an argument that popularity bred money and not vis-versa?)</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So, we&#039;re down to Clintonesque parsing of words, already, Alex?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

When you combine CDS with ODS, what do you get?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So, we're down to Clintonesque parsing of words, already, Alex?</p></blockquote>
<p>When you combine CDS with ODS, what do you get?</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t say that Obama bought the presidency.  Although I do think having tons more money than your opponent helps, but I don&#039;t think having a lot of money makes a bad candidate win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn't say that Obama bought the presidency.  Although I do think having tons more money than your opponent helps, but I don't think having a lot of money makes a bad candidate win.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, we&#039;re down to Clintonesque parsing of words, already, Alex?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, we're down to Clintonesque parsing of words, already, Alex?</p>
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