Comments on: Dinosaur Caught in the Act of Evolving

By: Steve

Steve — Sat, 07 May 2005 03:59:03 +0000

Of course, he isn't a new species. Did I say he was a new species? No. But it is evidence of change--i.e. evolution. Is it speciation? Again no, but I wasn't claiming it was.

So what is your point? That speciation doesn't occur? Fine, think whatever you want, but it speaks ill of your understanding of the scientific process and ability to weigh evidence.

By: melvin toast

melvin toast — Sat, 07 May 2005 01:05:37 +0000

Genetic mutations occur. That is a fact. The idea that genetic mutations lead to new species is a theory.

That boy in Germany isn't a new specie.

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 06 May 2005 23:04:39 +0000

Strange. We have to look at dinosaurs to observe evolution.

WTFAYTA? Where did I say we look to dinosaurs to see evidence of genetic mutation. For the love of God try googling or just visit TalkOrigins.org. Something...anything....please.

If all creatures evolve how come we havenât seen it recently?

We have. We have seen genetic mutations. For example there was a child, 7 years old in Germany, who had something like twice the muscle mass for other children his age. Researchers, IIRC, determined it was due to a genetic mutation in the genes involving muscle growth and development. Here is the link. Right there evolution (i.e. change) at the genetic level in action.

For instance, how come liberals donât evolve out of existence through abortion?

Oy.

By: Hal

Hal — Fri, 06 May 2005 19:57:05 +0000

Yep, the brain trust is in the house.

Lordy.

By: melvin toast

melvin toast — Fri, 06 May 2005 19:24:41 +0000

Steve says: "The point is that all organisms evolve. One part of evolution is genetic mutations. This happens in every living thing. No need for induction from a single example."

Strange. We have to look at dinosaurs to observe evolution. If all creatures evolve how come we haven't seen it recently? For instance, how come liberals don't evolve out of existence through abortion?

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 06 May 2005 17:28:41 +0000

I disagree somewhat Scott. I think one can be both a scientist and religious: e.g. Kenneth Miller. Miller is a tireless opponent of creationism and intelligent design, yet from my understanding a devout Catholic.

I think the thing to remember is that there is really no limits on God, and the neo-Creationists and IDists and ID in specific actually put constraints on God. God must act in a way that is detectable.

By: Scott Dillard

Scott Dillard — Fri, 06 May 2005 15:53:58 +0000

See post above on Kansas. Really, if you want your kids to learn religion, then send them to religious schools, so the rest of us can go about educating scientists.

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 06 May 2005 05:26:01 +0000

Oh and as for feathery integument on Nothronychus, the evidence seems spotty at best. I've seen some say "Yes", and some say "No", and some say, "Maybe."

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 06 May 2005 05:18:40 +0000

I donât understand the creationist angle. Letâs say
there is evidence that proves that some dinosaurs evolved. So by induction that means all creatures evolved from the same primordial mud?

Thatâs kind of like saying that since some bloggers are immoral all bloggers are immoral and wear pajamas.

Good gravey no. The point is that all organisms evolve. One part of evolution is genetic mutations. This happens in every living thing. No need for induction from a single example.

By: melvin toast

melvin toast — Fri, 06 May 2005 01:23:51 +0000

I don't understand the creationist angle. Let's say
there is evidence that proves that some dinosaurs evolved. So by induction that means all creatures evolved from the same primordial mud?

That's kind of like saying that since some bloggers are immoral all bloggers are immoral and wear pajamas.

By: Joel (No Pundit Intended)

Joel (No Pundit Intended) — Fri, 06 May 2005 00:50:29 +0000

I honestly think there is something to the whole vegitarian gig. I mean think about it, all of the animals I eat are vegitarians - ok, except for the bear and most of the fish - oh and the spotted owl. But that's just an every other week thing.

By: John Burgess

John Burgess — Thu, 05 May 2005 23:53:25 +0000

Something not made clear in any of the articles about this is how they determined which way the beast was evolving? Mightn't it have been a vegan that decided meat was the way to go?

"Link" is okay... it's certainly intermediate. But which way was that arrow flying?

By: bryan

bryan — Thu, 05 May 2005 23:28:14 +0000

Just out of curiosity, how do they know this dinosaur had feathers?

By: Maggie

Maggie — Thu, 05 May 2005 23:27:11 +0000

OMG, we all ARE supposed to be VEGANS!