Comments on: DIVERSITY REVISITED http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/diversity_revisited/ Online Journal of Politics and Foreign Affairs Wed, 25 Nov 2009 07:15:57 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Norbizness http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/diversity_revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-3355 Norbizness Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000 /?p=2541#comment-3355 I guess some things are equal protection claims, and some aren't. I don't believe that any of the following classes of people who are penalized have a 14th Amendment claim: (1) people who do not inhabit Michigan's "Upper Peninsula"; (2) non-veterans;(3) out-of-state student at public universities; (4) non-legacies. I guess some things are equal protection claims, and some aren't. I don't believe that any of the following classes of people who are penalized have a 14th Amendment claim: (1) people who do not inhabit Michigan's "Upper Peninsula"; (2) non-veterans;(3) out-of-state student at public universities; (4) non-legacies.

]]> By: joy http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/diversity_revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-3356 joy Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000 /?p=2541#comment-3356 It's a state university, it's purpose is to serve the students of the whole state*. The problem with picking kids with great gpas is that some high schools use weighed systems, so a 4.0 at one school may mean valedictorian while at others it may just mean top 15% because of AP classes and such. Same goes for extracurriculars, some schools have better programs. You have to figure out some way of equalizing the playing field. Especially when schools are mostly funded by, say, local tax dollars. Why penalize a kid because they live in a rural Virginia and the tax base isn't as high as it is around the DC area? As much as I hate to say it, if you're going to have localized control of public schools, you have to have some sort of built in leeway for the vagaries of local control. *Yes, I benefited from such a admissions strategy. It's a state university, it's purpose is to serve the students of the whole state*. The problem with picking kids with great gpas is that some high schools use weighed systems, so a 4.0 at one school may mean valedictorian while at others it may just mean top 15% because of AP classes and such. Same goes for extracurriculars, some schools have better programs.

You have to figure out some way of equalizing the playing field. Especially when schools are mostly funded by, say, local tax dollars. Why penalize a kid because they live in a rural Virginia and the tax base isn't as high as it is around the DC area?

As much as I hate to say it, if you're going to have localized control of public schools, you have to have some sort of built in leeway for the vagaries of local control.

*Yes, I benefited from such a admissions strategy.

]]> By: jen http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/diversity_revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-3357 jen Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000 /?p=2541#comment-3357 In addition, the school districts in Northern Virginia are typically better than the rest of the state - in a class of 500, easily the top 100 will all have 4.0 GPA, straight As, and superb extracurricular activities. I know that in my class alone (of 520) there were 40 that went to Va Tech, 40+ that went to UVa, 25-30 to William & Mary and that's just the top in-state schools. We had about a dozen go to the military academies, 15-20 to the Ivys, etc. I think we had maybe 8 go to Duke. Just about all of the best colleges were represented by my class. And that was just one of the smaller high schools in NoVa. I have no problem with The University limiting the number of NoVa students they admit, it's more highly populated region of the state as well. In addition, the school districts in Northern Virginia are typically better than the rest of the state - in a class of 500, easily the top 100 will all have 4.0 GPA, straight As, and superb extracurricular activities. I know that in my class alone (of 520) there were 40 that went to Va Tech, 40+ that went to UVa, 25-30 to William & Mary and that's just the top in-state schools. We had about a dozen go to the military academies, 15-20 to the Ivys, etc. I think we had maybe 8 go to Duke. Just about all of the best colleges were represented by my class. And that was just one of the smaller high schools in NoVa. I have no problem with The University limiting the number of NoVa students they admit, it's more highly populated region of the state as well.

]]> By: Wizbang http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/diversity_revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-3358 Wizbang Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000 /?p=2541#comment-3358 <strong>Living On The Right Side Of The Tracks</strong> James Joyner notes this mornings WaPo article on potential intra state regional discrimination at the University of Virginia. James comments:This strikes me as a horribly bad idea, for precisely the reasons that I oppose race-based quotas. It also seem... --- Living On The Right Side Of The Tracks
James Joyner notes this mornings WaPo article on potential intra state regional discrimination at the University of Virginia. James comments:This strikes me as a horribly bad idea, for precisely the reasons that I oppose race-based quotas. It also seem...

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