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	<title>Comments on: Do Republicans Cheat More?</title>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/do_republicans_cheat_more/comment-page-1/#comment-1079687</link>
		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;as the party that wants to snoop around in people&#039;s bedrooms&lt;/blockquote&gt;Come on......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>as the party that wants to snoop around in people's bedrooms</p></blockquote>
<p>Come on......</p>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/do_republicans_cheat_more/comment-page-1/#comment-1079204</link>
		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So Tlaloc do you have some study to back up your claim that repbulicans would &quot;admit&quot; at a different rate the democrats?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nope, and I may be wring that republicans would self report at a lower rate, but until and unless someone establishes that question one way or the other this study of extremely limited use.

There&#039;s every reason to think that conservatives would fail to report affairs with more frequency than those who regard such things as, you  know, a personal failing rather than an offense against the lord almighty.


&lt;blockquote&gt;Also, outside of self reported data you can&#039;t really collect accurate data on cheating, because a lot of people cheat and don&#039;t ever get caught.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You can of course look at the break down of those who do get caught, in which case the question is &quot;are dems just better at hiding it?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So Tlaloc do you have some study to back up your claim that repbulicans would "admit" at a different rate the democrats?</p></blockquote>
<p>Nope, and I may be wring that republicans would self report at a lower rate, but until and unless someone establishes that question one way or the other this study of extremely limited use.</p>
<p>There's every reason to think that conservatives would fail to report affairs with more frequency than those who regard such things as, you  know, a personal failing rather than an offense against the lord almighty.</p>
<blockquote><p>Also, outside of self reported data you can't really collect accurate data on cheating, because a lot of people cheat and don't ever get caught.</p></blockquote>
<p>You can of course look at the break down of those who do get caught, in which case the question is "are dems just better at hiding it?"</p>
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		<title>By: An Interested Party</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Interested Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This game of trying to pin adultery on one political party or the other is just silly...of course people of both political persuasions are guilty of it...I think the reason why it might cut against Republicans more is that they are the party constantly preaching about family values and are perceived (at least the socially conservative wing) as the party that wants to snoop around in people&#039;s bedrooms...by the way, can not KKT rail against adultery because some of the men in her family have been guilty of it?  Talk about the sins of the father...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This game of trying to pin adultery on one political party or the other is just silly...of course people of both political persuasions are guilty of it...I think the reason why it might cut against Republicans more is that they are the party constantly preaching about family values and are perceived (at least the socially conservative wing) as the party that wants to snoop around in people's bedrooms...by the way, can not KKT rail against adultery because some of the men in her family have been guilty of it?  Talk about the sins of the father...</p>
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		<title>By: Al Bullock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Bullock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many caught Kathleen Kennedy Townsend opinion piece on A15 of Sundays Post?  She radiates disgust with Ensign and Sanford and while I agree extramarital affairs are a no-no let us not let the pot call the kettle opaque. 

It amazes me a Kennedy would open a mouth to criticize anyone for with the male linage it is inherited Kennedy trait consisting of grandfather, father and uncles. Kathleen  may not consider it a fault but rather Noblesse Oblige, Obama would call it &quot;spreading the wealth around&#039;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many caught Kathleen Kennedy Townsend opinion piece on A15 of Sundays Post?  She radiates disgust with Ensign and Sanford and while I agree extramarital affairs are a no-no let us not let the pot call the kettle opaque. </p>
<p>It amazes me a Kennedy would open a mouth to criticize anyone for with the male linage it is inherited Kennedy trait consisting of grandfather, father and uncles. Kathleen  may not consider it a fault but rather Noblesse Oblige, Obama would call it "spreading the wealth around'!</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/do_republicans_cheat_more/comment-page-1/#comment-1078755</link>
		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Does any of this depend on what the definition of &quot;is&quot; is?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Only if you are liberal in you use of a dictionary,law book,science book, U.S. Constitution, Bible,army field manual,U.N.resolution, tax form,ect.ect.ect.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Does any of this depend on what the definition of "is" is?</p></blockquote>
<p>Only if you are liberal in you use of a dictionary,law book,science book, U.S. Constitution, Bible,army field manual,U.N.resolution, tax form,ect.ect.ect.......</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does any of this depend on what the definition of &quot;is&quot; is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does any of this depend on what the definition of "is" is?</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Tlaloc do you have some study to back up your claim that repbulicans would &quot;admit&quot; at a different rate the democrats?  My gut tells me both groups are likely to lie at pretty much an equal rate on this question.

Also, outside of self reported data you can&#039;t really collect accurate data on cheating, because a lot of people cheat and don&#039;t ever get caught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Tlaloc do you have some study to back up your claim that repbulicans would "admit" at a different rate the democrats?  My gut tells me both groups are likely to lie at pretty much an equal rate on this question.</p>
<p>Also, outside of self reported data you can't really collect accurate data on cheating, because a lot of people cheat and don't ever get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;About 19% of Democrats, 19% of independents, and 15% of Republicans admit to having an extramarital affair.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If the word &quot;Admit&quot; doesn;t leap out at you here then you haven&#039;t spent nearly enough time understanding sociological data (or polling methodology).  All this proves is that Republicans are less likely to self report affairs, not that they are less likely to have them.  Given the additional stigma for socon republicans it makes sense that they are probably willing to admit to existing affairs at a lower rate than either dems or independents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>About 19% of Democrats, 19% of independents, and 15% of Republicans admit to having an extramarital affair.</p></blockquote>
<p>If the word "Admit" doesn;t leap out at you here then you haven't spent nearly enough time understanding sociological data (or polling methodology).  All this proves is that Republicans are less likely to self report affairs, not that they are less likely to have them.  Given the additional stigma for socon republicans it makes sense that they are probably willing to admit to existing affairs at a lower rate than either dems or independents.</p>
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		<title>By: PD Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>PD Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The survey appears to &quot;count&quot; people who have never married.  People who have always been single will never get divorced, right?

My thesis would be that Republicans are more optimistic about marriage and therefore marry at higher rates, often earlier in life.  Thus, they are at higher risk to divorce or separate.  A similar point was made in this month&#039;s Atlantic Monthly about international comparisons:

&lt;blockquote&gt;If America is a “divorce culture,” it may be partly because we are a “marriage culture,” since we both divorce and marry (a projected 90 percent of us) at some of the highest rates anywhere on the globe.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200907/divorce&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;AtlanticMonthly&lt;/a&gt;

Similarly, if Republicans marry at higher rates, I would expect them to divorce at higher rates, all other things being equal.  Think of it as the Community Reinvestment Act theory of marital stability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The survey appears to "count" people who have never married.  People who have always been single will never get divorced, right?</p>
<p>My thesis would be that Republicans are more optimistic about marriage and therefore marry at higher rates, often earlier in life.  Thus, they are at higher risk to divorce or separate.  A similar point was made in this month's Atlantic Monthly about international comparisons:</p>
<blockquote><p>If America is a “divorce culture,” it may be partly because we are a “marriage culture,” since we both divorce and marry (a projected 90 percent of us) at some of the highest rates anywhere on the globe.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200907/divorce" rel="nofollow">AtlanticMonthly</a></p>
<p>Similarly, if Republicans marry at higher rates, I would expect them to divorce at higher rates, all other things being equal.  Think of it as the Community Reinvestment Act theory of marital stability.</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which party was it during the Clinton candidacy that insisted: Character doesn&#039;t matter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which party was it during the Clinton candidacy that insisted: Character doesn't matter?</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I think the more interesting question would be whether political office holders, regardless of party, are more likely to be divorced or to have an extramarital affair.&lt;/em&gt;

I kind of like this question.  I sometimes think the wealthier and more powerful a person becomes the more they feel free to compromise morals on other areas.  Don&#039;t know that it would necessarily play out if studied, but it is an interesting question.

I also tend to think, when it comes to divorce and divorce rates that there are things like poverty/money stress that probably play as much if not a bigger role in divorce rates than unfaithfulness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I think the more interesting question would be whether political office holders, regardless of party, are more likely to be divorced or to have an extramarital affair.</em></p>
<p>I kind of like this question.  I sometimes think the wealthier and more powerful a person becomes the more they feel free to compromise morals on other areas.  Don't know that it would necessarily play out if studied, but it is an interesting question.</p>
<p>I also tend to think, when it comes to divorce and divorce rates that there are things like poverty/money stress that probably play as much if not a bigger role in divorce rates than unfaithfulness.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct James. The better question, IMHO, is it the policies, taxes, governmental, private institutions in red states that lead to higher levels of divorce. Individuals may, as individuals behave in certain behaviors while enacting policies that undercut their beliefs. 

  I find Massachusetts interesting in these studies. They have the lowest divorce rate in the country and in the recent NAEP studies, it was the only state that measured out at a top tier world level in math scores. Would be good to figure out what they are doing and see if it can be implemented elsewhere.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct James. The better question, IMHO, is it the policies, taxes, governmental, private institutions in red states that lead to higher levels of divorce. Individuals may, as individuals behave in certain behaviors while enacting policies that undercut their beliefs. </p>
<p>  I find Massachusetts interesting in these studies. They have the lowest divorce rate in the country and in the recent NAEP studies, it was the only state that measured out at a top tier world level in math scores. Would be good to figure out what they are doing and see if it can be implemented elsewhere.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Stinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Stinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely a question to look at, Dave!

Sadly, James, these survey results will be repeated by certain smug quarters who don&#039;t understand statistics enough to see how weak Blow&#039;s argument was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely a question to look at, Dave!</p>
<p>Sadly, James, these survey results will be repeated by certain smug quarters who don't understand statistics enough to see how weak Blow's argument was.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the more interesting question would be whether political office holders, regardless of party, are more likely to be divorced or to have an extramarital affair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the more interesting question would be whether political office holders, regardless of party, are more likely to be divorced or to have an extramarital affair.</p>
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