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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mithras,

Thanks for the explanation.  Appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mithras,</p>
<p>Thanks for the explanation.  Appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mithras</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mithras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Please tell me they don&#039;t also use the phrase &quot;The customer is always right&quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Used to, in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Special_Plans&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Office of Special Plans&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Please tell me they don't also use the phrase "The customer is always right".</p></blockquote>
<p>Used to, in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Special_Plans" rel="nofollow">Office of Special Plans</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: interested</title>
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		<dc:creator>interested</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all except Kennedy were Governors. I could see if perhaps Governors were considered &quot;incumbent customers&quot;, but that would imply that Senators are not - which, of course, they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all except Kennedy were Governors. I could see if perhaps Governors were considered "incumbent customers", but that would imply that Senators are not - which, of course, they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/does_hayden_know_his_history/comment-page-1/#comment-513366</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Please tell me they don&#039;t also use the phrase &quot;The customer is always right&quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It depends on how much they tip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Please tell me they don't also use the phrase "The customer is always right".</p></blockquote>
<p>It depends on how much they tip.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In the intelligence world, there are &quot;producers&quot; and &quot;customers&quot; of product. It&#039;s an explicit analogy to the business world, meant to focus intelligence agencies on the fact that they are working for specific end users with specific needs and concerns, which guides the producer&#039;s budgets and priorities.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Please tell me they don&#039;t also use the phrase &quot;The customer is always right&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In the intelligence world, there are "producers" and "customers" of product. It's an explicit analogy to the business world, meant to focus intelligence agencies on the fact that they are working for specific end users with specific needs and concerns, which guides the producer's budgets and priorities.</p></blockquote>
<p>Please tell me they don't also use the phrase "The customer is always right".</p>
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		<title>By: PD Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>PD Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I belive he means that this is the first election since &#039;52 in which there is not an incumbant President or Vice President running for President.  I.e., Cheney is not running.

As to why this is a concern to intelligence, I can&#039;t say.  I suppose if an incumbant were running, the CIA would already have been supplying information to the incumbant for the last four or so years.  This election, the CIA is guaranteed to have a new relationship that begins Jan. 20.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I belive he means that this is the first election since '52 in which there is not an incumbant President or Vice President running for President.  I.e., Cheney is not running.</p>
<p>As to why this is a concern to intelligence, I can't say.  I suppose if an incumbant were running, the CIA would already have been supplying information to the incumbant for the last four or so years.  This election, the CIA is guaranteed to have a new relationship that begins Jan. 20.</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes one wonder if he even knows how many states we have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes one wonder if he even knows how many states we have.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does the Director of the CIA have speechwriters?

This is totally bizarre, and completely at odds with everything I know about the man. Something is seriously out of whack here, but I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s Gen Hayden or something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the Director of the CIA have speechwriters?</p>
<p>This is totally bizarre, and completely at odds with everything I know about the man. Something is seriously out of whack here, but I don't know if it's Gen Hayden or something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Mithras</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mithras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;customer&quot;?

Huh?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In the intelligence world, there are &quot;producers&quot; and &quot;customers&quot; of product. It&#039;s an explicit analogy to the business world, meant to focus intelligence agencies on the fact that they are working for specific end users with specific needs and concerns, which guides the producer&#039;s budgets and priorities. 

Hayden&#039;s mistake about the incumbent thing I can&#039;t explain. It&#039;s a little concerning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>"customer"?</p>
<p>Huh?</p></blockquote>
<p>In the intelligence world, there are "producers" and "customers" of product. It's an explicit analogy to the business world, meant to focus intelligence agencies on the fact that they are working for specific end users with specific needs and concerns, which guides the producer's budgets and priorities. </p>
<p>Hayden's mistake about the incumbent thing I can't explain. It's a little concerning.</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that since we were all in gradeschool, and believed those stories about Washington and Lincoln, we&#039;ve naively tended to have blind faith in our leaders.The reality that they are all just frail people and our systems really are far from perfect, is a schocker. This is why I don&#039;t trust government nor democracy to save me. I just pray and hope for the best. Less than perfection, I understand and hope we&#039;&#039;re always trying to improve it, but the other thing -the professional deceit, manipulating and lying, as the norm, I don&#039;t accept -nor should any of us. Instead we vote the deceivers and liars back into office because they tell us what we want to hear. In short, as they said when Bill got caught by Monica&#039;s blue dress, yes he&#039;s a liar, but he&#039;s our liar. Sigh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that since we were all in gradeschool, and believed those stories about Washington and Lincoln, we've naively tended to have blind faith in our leaders.The reality that they are all just frail people and our systems really are far from perfect, is a schocker. This is why I don't trust government nor democracy to save me. I just pray and hope for the best. Less than perfection, I understand and hope we''re always trying to improve it, but the other thing -the professional deceit, manipulating and lying, as the norm, I don't accept -nor should any of us. Instead we vote the deceivers and liars back into office because they tell us what we want to hear. In short, as they said when Bill got caught by Monica's blue dress, yes he's a liar, but he's our liar. Sigh!</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that since we were all in gradeschool, and believed those stories about Washington and Lincoln, we&#039;ve naively tended to have blind faith in our leaders.The reality that they are all just frail people and our systems really are far from perfect, is a schocker. This is why I don&#039;t trust government nor democracy to save me. I just pray and hope for the best. Less than perfection, I understand and hope we&#039;&#039;re always trying to improve it, but the other thing -the professional deceit, manipulating and lying, as the norm, I don&#039;t accept -nor should any of us. Instead we vote the deceivers and liars back into office because they tell us what we want to hear. In short, as they said when Bill got caught by Monica&#039;s blue dress, yes he&#039;s a liar, but he&#039;s our liar. Sigh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that since we were all in gradeschool, and believed those stories about Washington and Lincoln, we've naively tended to have blind faith in our leaders.The reality that they are all just frail people and our systems really are far from perfect, is a schocker. This is why I don't trust government nor democracy to save me. I just pray and hope for the best. Less than perfection, I understand and hope we''re always trying to improve it, but the other thing -the professional deceit, manipulating and lying, as the norm, I don't accept -nor should any of us. Instead we vote the deceivers and liars back into office because they tell us what we want to hear. In short, as they said when Bill got caught by Monica's blue dress, yes he's a liar, but he's our liar. Sigh!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Hayden is the guy who totally flubbed the Fourth Amendment as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Hayden is the guy who totally flubbed the Fourth Amendment as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Knapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Knapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 05:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron,

That&#039;s what I thought at first, too, but it doesn&#039;t quite make sense--he&#039;s saying that our &quot;top customer&quot; won&#039;t be.  Nothing about the ballot per se.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron,</p>
<p>That's what I thought at first, too, but it doesn't quite make sense--he's saying that our "top customer" won't be.  Nothing about the ballot per se.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 05:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;customer&quot;?  

Huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"customer"?  </p>
<p>Huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 05:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What he may have meant is that this is the first time since 1952 that neither a president nor a vice president is &lt;em&gt;on the ballot&lt;/em&gt;.  I&#039;ve certainly heard that before, and it&#039;s true, but I don&#039;t see that it has any special relevance to the intelligence community as opposed to the rest of the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What he may have meant is that this is the first time since 1952 that neither a president nor a vice president is <em>on the ballot</em>.  I've certainly heard that before, and it's true, but I don't see that it has any special relevance to the intelligence community as opposed to the rest of the country.</p>
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