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	<title>Comments on: Don Imus: Good-natured Racist?</title>
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		<title>By: Marianne</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/don_imus_good-natured_racist/comment-page-1/#comment-120299</link>
		<dc:creator>Marianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Powerful white men -- that is the group that Imus most often insulted and offended, and the group the most needs to be insulted and offended still.  Imus insulted everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Powerful white men -- that is the group that Imus most often insulted and offended, and the group the most needs to be insulted and offended still.  Imus insulted everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Bandit</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/don_imus_good-natured_racist/comment-page-1/#comment-119836</link>
		<dc:creator>Bandit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I am trying to imagine a scenario where some nice, white bread female athletes &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Fight ignorant racism with more ignorant racism!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am trying to imagine a scenario where some nice, white bread female athletes </p></blockquote>
<p>Fight ignorant racism with more ignorant racism!</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/don_imus_good-natured_racist/comment-page-1/#comment-119766</link>
		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 06:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No he is a bad natured liberal, but gee you think he was responsible for the murder of 45 million babies or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No he is a bad natured liberal, but gee you think he was responsible for the murder of 45 million babies or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel DiRito</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/don_imus_good-natured_racist/comment-page-1/#comment-119760</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel DiRito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 04:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, we are fast becoming the epitome of a Jerry Springer society. It seems to have become more important to have an audience and notoriety when confronting conflict than it is to attain resolve and mutual respect. That model seems to serve the needs of the exploited and those who seek to exploit; reinforcing all that relegates objectivity to the outhouse while making the frailty and imperfection of the human condition a spectacle that harkens back to the Coliseum. 

This situation isn’t and shouldn’t be about whether liberals or conservatives, this race or that race, hip hop or honky-tonk, one group or another, are more offensive and therefore more responsible for all that is wrong with America. I am not capable of judging the whole of Don Imus nor am I capable of crafting a recipe to fix all of America…and neither are the countless pundits and partisans who have sought to frame it so. 

I’m not a religious person…but I often find kinship with the imagery surrounding the portrayal of one called Jesus and his teachings of understanding and forgiveness. For all the banter I hear about the Bible and Christian values, it certainly seems to me that we are fast abandoning what many view as the sacred “tablets” in favor of the sacrosanct tabloids. If I’m right, all I can say is heaven help us.

Read more about the dynamics that lead a situation to become larger than the sum of its parts…here:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thoughttheater.com/2007/04/imus_bias_devils_heaven.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.thoughttheater.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, we are fast becoming the epitome of a Jerry Springer society. It seems to have become more important to have an audience and notoriety when confronting conflict than it is to attain resolve and mutual respect. That model seems to serve the needs of the exploited and those who seek to exploit; reinforcing all that relegates objectivity to the outhouse while making the frailty and imperfection of the human condition a spectacle that harkens back to the Coliseum. </p>
<p>This situation isn&rsquo;t and shouldn&rsquo;t be about whether liberals or conservatives, this race or that race, hip hop or honky-tonk, one group or another, are more offensive and therefore more responsible for all that is wrong with America. I am not capable of judging the whole of Don Imus nor am I capable of crafting a recipe to fix all of America…and neither are the countless pundits and partisans who have sought to frame it so. </p>
<p>I&rsquo;m not a religious person…but I often find kinship with the imagery surrounding the portrayal of one called Jesus and his teachings of understanding and forgiveness. For all the banter I hear about the Bible and Christian values, it certainly seems to me that we are fast abandoning what many view as the sacred “tablets” in favor of the sacrosanct tabloids. If I&rsquo;m right, all I can say is heaven help us.</p>
<p>Read more about the dynamics that lead a situation to become larger than the sum of its parts…here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thoughttheater.com/2007/04/imus_bias_devils_heaven.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.thoughttheater.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, its OK for Imas to be a racist because there are others out there who use even uglier language?

I am trying to imagine a scenario where some nice, white bread female athletes who are competing at an elite level take the floor and  an announcer refers to them as ugly prostitutes, then has his job for more then 24 hours. Don&#039;t see it happening...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, its OK for Imas to be a racist because there are others out there who use even uglier language?</p>
<p>I am trying to imagine a scenario where some nice, white bread female athletes who are competing at an elite level take the floor and  an announcer refers to them as ugly prostitutes, then has his job for more then 24 hours. Don't see it happening...</p>
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		<title>By: carpeicthus</title>
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		<dc:creator>carpeicthus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Snoop quote is real? Why do we need parody?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Snoop quote is real? Why do we need parody?</p>
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		<title>By: laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 01:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MSNBC, ABC, CBS, PBC, and all the outlets we call the MSM, are considered respectable, normal.  The things that personalities say on those kinds of venues get legitimized by the venue itself.

Somethings shouldn&#039;t be legitimized.  That&#039;s the issue. 

I hate the stuff Snoop raps and I don&#039;t buy his rationalizations. Also, when I taught high school I often had to deal with African American kids who thought nothing of calling each other hos or bitches.  However none of that justifies the presence, on a supposedly respectable MSM media outlet, of a man who says racist things.  Either the man who says racist things has to go or the media outlet&#039;s reputation should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MSNBC, ABC, CBS, PBC, and all the outlets we call the MSM, are considered respectable, normal.  The things that personalities say on those kinds of venues get legitimized by the venue itself.</p>
<p>Somethings shouldn't be legitimized.  That's the issue. </p>
<p>I hate the stuff Snoop raps and I don't buy his rationalizations. Also, when I taught high school I often had to deal with African American kids who thought nothing of calling each other hos or bitches.  However none of that justifies the presence, on a supposedly respectable MSM media outlet, of a man who says racist things.  Either the man who says racist things has to go or the media outlet's reputation should.</p>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 00:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thin skinned are the first to preach tolerance!What irony!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thin skinned are the first to preach tolerance!What irony!</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
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		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;At the same time, though, effective humor is often edgy. Bruce, Pryor, Rock, and others used humor to positively impact the discussion of the incredibly sensitive issue of race. We don’t want to outlaw words that make people angry, nor put topics that make them uncomfortable off the table. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yes, but Imus isn&#039;t a comedian. Nor was he being at all funny - though he may have been (extremely lamely) trying. The fact Rice defends him by calling him a &#039;good-natured racist&#039; is every bit as insulting and degrading as Imus&#039; comments. Moreso even, because she specifically tags Imus as a member of some broad, undefined group of people who can be &#039;allowed&#039; to be racist.

And that&#039;s exactly why Imus is still making racist comments &lt;a href=&quot;http://americablog.blogspot.com/2007/04/don-imus-show-calls-posts-howie-kurtz.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;after all these years &lt;/a&gt;- because his buddies in the media never call him on it or tell him to know that shit off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>At the same time, though, effective humor is often edgy. Bruce, Pryor, Rock, and others used humor to positively impact the discussion of the incredibly sensitive issue of race. We don&rsquo;t want to outlaw words that make people angry, nor put topics that make them uncomfortable off the table. </p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, but Imus isn't a comedian. Nor was he being at all funny - though he may have been (extremely lamely) trying. The fact Rice defends him by calling him a 'good-natured racist' is every bit as insulting and degrading as Imus' comments. Moreso even, because she specifically tags Imus as a member of some broad, undefined group of people who can be 'allowed' to be racist.</p>
<p>And that's exactly why Imus is still making racist comments <a href="http://americablog.blogspot.com/2007/04/don-imus-show-calls-posts-howie-kurtz.html" rel="nofollow">after all these years </a>- because his buddies in the media never call him on it or tell him to know that shit off.</p>
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		<title>By: Snoop Dogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snoop Dogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shizzle my nizzle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shizzle my nizzle.</p>
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		<title>By: yetanotherjohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>yetanotherjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s like affirmative action for a liberal. What would be called bigoted and racist if the skin color was reversed is seen as progressive and caring. Evil is evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's like affirmative action for a liberal. What would be called bigoted and racist if the skin color was reversed is seen as progressive and caring. Evil is evil.</p>
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		<title>By: World and Global Politics Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>World and Global Politics Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;where do we draw the line? Surely, if Don Imus must go, Michael Savage must. And what of Rush Limbaugh? Bill Maher? Keith Olbermann? They all repeatedly say outrageous things on the air. What of “South Park”?  Many of us have noted the use of similar language in rap lyrics and stand-up routines. The point is not that they, too, are offensive and must be regulated. Just the opposite.   Last night, my wife and I watched a Carlos Mencia DVD and the language was frequently vulgar and, certainly, racial. As the liner notes say, &lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->where do we draw the line? Surely, if Don Imus must go, Michael Savage must. And what of Rush Limbaugh? Bill Maher? Keith Olbermann? They all repeatedly say outrageous things on the air. What of “South Park”?  Many of us have noted the use of similar language in rap lyrics and stand-up routines. The point is not that they, too, are offensive and must be regulated. Just the opposite.   Last night, my wife and I watched a Carlos Mencia DVD and the language was frequently vulgar and, certainly, racial. As the liner notes say, <!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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		<title>By:  » Gone Hollywood</title>
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		<dc:creator> » Gone Hollywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;*As an aside, Drum reports that Constance Rice is a second cousin to Condoleeza Rice, who she admires personally even though she doesn’t share her politics. I suspect they’d agree on this particular issue, though.  OTB   Share This   [IMG ]  [IMG] &lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->*As an aside, Drum reports that Constance Rice is a second cousin to Condoleeza Rice, who she admires personally even though she doesn&rsquo;t share her politics. I suspect they&rsquo;d agree on this particular issue, though.  OTB   Share This   [IMG ]  [IMG] <!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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