Comments on: Dump Condi? http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/dump_condi/ Online Journal of Politics and Foreign Affairs Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:35:01 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Anderson http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/dump_condi/comment-page-1/#comment-91640 Anderson Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:05:34 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/07/dump_condi/#comment-91640 <em>Anderson, for you to state you know how decisions are made by this White House, without having worked there is presumptive.</em> Zelsdorf, my sources are no less veracious than your sources for Israel's ability to impose the gov't of its choice on Syria. Anderson, for you to state you know how decisions are made by this White House, without having worked there is presumptive.

Zelsdorf, my sources are no less veracious than your sources for Israel's ability to impose the gov't of its choice on Syria.

]]> By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/dump_condi/comment-page-1/#comment-91633 Zelsdorf Ragshaft III Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:42:34 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/07/dump_condi/#comment-91633 Anderson, for you to state you know how decisions are made by this White House, without having worked there is presumptive. What those who disagree with Mr. Bush need to do, is run for office, particularly the Presidency, then they can run their mouths. Bush is the President, he makes the decisions, as so far he has not been influenced by polls, thank God. Anderson, for you to state you know how decisions are made by this White House, without having worked there is presumptive. What those who disagree with Mr. Bush need to do, is run for office, particularly the Presidency, then they can run their mouths. Bush is the President, he makes the decisions, as so far he has not been influenced by polls, thank God.

]]> By: Daniel DiRito http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/dump_condi/comment-page-1/#comment-91579 Daniel DiRito Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:52:13 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/07/dump_condi/#comment-91579 Not unlike the Harriet Miers situation, a Bush pal has been tagged by a group of neocons for rejection. While this may be full scale speculation, it isn't an impossibility given the neocon agenda goes back some thirty plus years to Team B and they believe they are close to finalizing their influence on foreign policy. One is inclined to wonder if the delay in U.S. efforts to broker a cease fire in the current Middle East conflict between Israel and Hezbollah is an indication of a waning confidence in the direction of the efforts of the Secretary of State as well as some further expanding neoconservative influence with the President. The fact that the administration has indicated that there must be an enduring solution rather than any rapid efforts to negotiate a cease fire seems to support the neoconservative belief that threats must be dealt with from a position of strength...even if that includes a lengthier period of military engagement. The delay in dispatching Rice to the region seems to be significant. Read the full article here: <a href="http://www.thoughttheater.com/2006/07/conservatives_call_for_rice_to.php" rel="nofollow">www.thoughttheater.com</a> Not unlike the Harriet Miers situation, a Bush pal has been tagged by a group of neocons for rejection. While this may be full scale speculation, it isn't an impossibility given the neocon agenda goes back some thirty plus years to Team B and they believe they are close to finalizing their influence on foreign policy.

One is inclined to wonder if the delay in U.S. efforts to broker a cease fire in the current Middle East conflict between Israel and Hezbollah is an indication of a waning confidence in the direction of the efforts of the Secretary of State as well as some further expanding neoconservative influence with the President. The fact that the administration has indicated that there must be an enduring solution rather than any rapid efforts to negotiate a cease fire seems to support the neoconservative belief that threats must be dealt with from a position of strength...even if that includes a lengthier period of military engagement. The delay in dispatching Rice to the region seems to be significant.

Read the full article here:

http://www.thoughttheater.com

]]> By: Anderson http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/dump_condi/comment-page-1/#comment-91573 Anderson Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:28:42 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/07/dump_condi/#comment-91573 Well, Rice's incompetence is hardly surprising, but I have to commend her on the quality of her enemies. Tinti, the fact of the story's publication shows that some Republicans are indeed pushing against Rice. Your examples of previous Insight articles help to establish that point: e.g., "Cheney to leave after '06" is either a story pushed by anti-Cheneys within the White House, or a trial balloon sent up by Cheney's camp. The fact that it's not <em>true</em> doesn't mean it's not <em>news</em>, if you read between the lines. Kremlin-watching in the U.S.A., if you will. There would seem to be very little reason to doubt that Rice in her efforts towards diplomacy has antagonized the Cheney/Perle-types. It would be news if she had <em>not</em> done so. Probably also there's jealousy at work; some stories suggest that Bush has cooled towards Cheney, and Bush's personal rapport with Rice seems to be as strong as ever. We know that whom Bush is friends with, pretty much determines whom he listens to. Well, Rice's incompetence is hardly surprising, but I have to commend her on the quality of her enemies.

Tinti, the fact of the story's publication shows that some Republicans are indeed pushing against Rice. Your examples of previous Insight articles help to establish that point: e.g., "Cheney to leave after '06" is either a story pushed by anti-Cheneys within the White House, or a trial balloon sent up by Cheney's camp. The fact that it's not true doesn't mean it's not news, if you read between the lines. Kremlin-watching in the U.S.A., if you will.

There would seem to be very little reason to doubt that Rice in her efforts towards diplomacy has antagonized the Cheney/Perle-types. It would be news if she had not done so.

Probably also there's jealousy at work; some stories suggest that Bush has cooled towards Cheney, and Bush's personal rapport with Rice seems to be as strong as ever. We know that whom Bush is friends with, pretty much determines whom he listens to.

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