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		<title>By: Big Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/edwardss_bloggers_making_more_news_than_candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-112372</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These bloggers need a good, strong, Catholic man to straighten them out and show them the power of God&#039;s love.  Too bad I&#039;m currently taken.</description>
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		<title>By: Clicked : Live by the blog, die by the blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clicked : Live by the blog, die by the blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posted: Thursday, February 08, 2007 1:25 PM by Will Femia When I&#039;m wrong, holy moly I am wrooo-ong with two syllables. Let the record show that I said, &quot;I can&#039;t see anyone really caring that much about the personal foibles of a candidate&#039;s Web master.&quot;&#160; Oh?&#160; How about readers of the New York Times and the Washington Post and ... Catholics? Not only do Edwards&#039; bloggers run the risk of eclipsing him&#160;(and by the way, they were fired)but back and forth debates about candidates&#039; bloggers appears to be a new aspect of campaign coverage. Here&#039;s the John Edwards blog by the way, in case you&#039;re curious about how these particular bloggers were appearing. &quot;A forthcoming bill in the U.S. Senate lays the groundwork for a national database of illegal images that Internet service providers would use to automatically flag and report suspicious content to police.&quot;&#160; That sounds like a real Pandora&#039;s Box to me, assuming it even works.&#160; I remember an idea for a parent filter once screened for pixel color codes that matched skin tones.&#160; I don&#039;t think that one caught on.&#160; Meanwhile, I didn&#039;t know that &quot;cartoon minors&quot; counted as child porn.&#160; I don&#039;t doubt that pedophiles collect it but I&#039;m surprised they could ban such a thing.&#160; Is there a similar law for anything else? Commuter Click: The Psychology of Security - I read about this as a presentation here and went to Bruce Schneier&#039;s site to see if he had a transcript posted and it turns out he&#039;s got a whole long essay. Speaking of psychology in blog entries, Thinking Faster Makes You Feel Happy and Brilliant Real-world success with virtual goods - The buzz phrase to know is &quot;real-money trading&quot; which is what they call selling virtual items for real money.&#160; The news in this story is that it&#039;s looking like game makers may begin to sanction and even broker real-money trading, which could not only boost the industry but finally put hard numbers to what has been mostly anecdotal reports of moneymaking success. I don&#039;t know how I missed the story of the guy trying to raise money for a Super Bowl ad to propose to his girlfriend because apparently it was in the news everywhere.&#160; In the end he didn&#039;t make enough for a Super Bowl ad so he bought local TV ad time on a show his girl watches.&#160; Her reaction is here on iFilm. (She kind of freaks out.&#160; Better keep her away from the scissors.)&#160; That soundtrack from Feelgood Science is nice if you&#039;re in the mood for it. I think the deadline on the Amy Sedaris craft challenge is past, but it still fun to look at the entries.&#160; Especially since we just looked at those &quot;snackimals&quot; photoshop contest entries. Lopez Murphy for President - When I first watched this I didn&#039;t understand how a campaign video from Argentina would make it into mainstream English meme trackers.&#160; If you watch to at least the midpoint you&#039;ll understand.&#160; It reminds me a little of the Tom Delay acrostics we saw in December. Nerf Druids - This is a bit esoteric, but also kind of funny and you gain a bit of insight on gamer culture.&#160; NOTE:&#160; Not vulgar or sexual but you should probably put your headphones on for it if you&#039;re at work.&#160; You&#039;ll see. Skateboarding robot - We should just hand our whole civilization over to them now, Sarah Connor and all. 5 Things You Need to Know About SLR Lenses - Very handy basics. 11 Most Important Philosophical Quotations - Ordinarily you&#039;d expect this to be something stupid like the &quot;drive on a parkway, park on a driveway&quot; gag, but actually it&#039;s real and interesting. A “Yakuza War” has started in Central Tokyo The true cost of bottled water, summarized here, full report here and from memory, &quot;Bad to the last drop.&quot;&#160; Basically bottled water is a blight from its starting point to the production to the shipping to the finished product that pollutes the earth with a jillion plastic bottles. Did you see that Ozzfest is free this year? - Of course, that doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s actually free, it means it&#039;ll be interesting to see how much the free tickets cost on eBay. Has anyone ever had sex in space?&#160; In the end it sounds like he&#039;s saying No, not that we know of.&#160; But in the middle there&#039;s a strange bit of implication that the space station is like an orbiting love shack. The Internet Anagram Server figures out anagrams for up to 12 letters. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Posted: Thursday, February 08, 2007 1:25 PM by Will Femia When I'm wrong, holy moly I am wrooo-ong with two syllables. Let the record show that I said, "I can't see anyone really caring that much about the personal foibles of a candidate's Web master."  Oh?  How about readers of the New York Times and the Washington Post and ... Catholics? Not only do Edwards' bloggers run the risk of eclipsing him (and by the way, they were fired)but back and forth debates about candidates' bloggers appears to be a new aspect of campaign coverage. Here's the John Edwards blog by the way, in case you're curious about how these particular bloggers were appearing. "A forthcoming bill in the U.S. Senate lays the groundwork for a national database of illegal images that Internet service providers would use to automatically flag and report suspicious content to police."  That sounds like a real Pandora's Box to me, assuming it even works.  I remember an idea for a parent filter once screened for pixel color codes that matched skin tones.  I don't think that one caught on.  Meanwhile, I didn't know that "cartoon minors" counted as child porn.  I don't doubt that pedophiles collect it but I'm surprised they could ban such a thing.  Is there a similar law for anything else? Commuter Click: The Psychology of Security - I read about this as a presentation here and went to Bruce Schneier's site to see if he had a transcript posted and it turns out he's got a whole long essay. Speaking of psychology in blog entries, Thinking Faster Makes You Feel Happy and Brilliant Real-world success with virtual goods - The buzz phrase to know is "real-money trading" which is what they call selling virtual items for real money.  The news in this story is that it's looking like game makers may begin to sanction and even broker real-money trading, which could not only boost the industry but finally put hard numbers to what has been mostly anecdotal reports of moneymaking success. I don't know how I missed the story of the guy trying to raise money for a Super Bowl ad to propose to his girlfriend because apparently it was in the news everywhere.  In the end he didn't make enough for a Super Bowl ad so he bought local TV ad time on a show his girl watches.  Her reaction is here on iFilm. (She kind of freaks out.  Better keep her away from the scissors.)  That soundtrack from Feelgood Science is nice if you're in the mood for it. I think the deadline on the Amy Sedaris craft challenge is past, but it still fun to look at the entries.  Especially since we just looked at those "snackimals" photoshop contest entries. Lopez Murphy for President - When I first watched this I didn't understand how a campaign video from Argentina would make it into mainstream English meme trackers.  If you watch to at least the midpoint you'll understand.  It reminds me a little of the Tom Delay acrostics we saw in December. Nerf Druids - This is a bit esoteric, but also kind of funny and you gain a bit of insight on gamer culture.  NOTE:  Not vulgar or sexual but you should probably put your headphones on for it if you're at work.  You'll see. Skateboarding robot - We should just hand our whole civilization over to them now, Sarah Connor and all. 5 Things You Need to Know About SLR Lenses - Very handy basics. 11 Most Important Philosophical Quotations - Ordinarily you'd expect this to be something stupid like the "drive on a parkway, park on a driveway" gag, but actually it's real and interesting. A “Yakuza War” has started in Central Tokyo The true cost of bottled water, summarized here, full report here and from memory, "Bad to the last drop."  Basically bottled water is a blight from its starting point to the production to the shipping to the finished product that pollutes the earth with a jillion plastic bottles. Did you see that Ozzfest is free this year? - Of course, that doesn't mean it's actually free, it means it'll be interesting to see how much the free tickets cost on eBay. Has anyone ever had sex in space?  In the end it sounds like he's saying No, not that we know of.  But in the middle there's a strange bit of implication that the space station is like an orbiting love shack. The Internet Anagram Server figures out anagrams for up to 12 letters. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pajamas Media</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/edwardss_bloggers_making_more_news_than_candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-112076</link>
		<dc:creator>Pajamas Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 05:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Blogswarm Tsunami Drowns Edwards&#039; Bloggers:...&lt;/strong&gt;

Today the Edwards Campaign predictably dumped their besieged bloggers after a blog-initiated and fed firestorm of criticism went mainstream and then, just as predicitably, cycled back into the Blogosphere for more fuel. The Edwards&#039; bloggers first sin...</description>
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<p>Today the Edwards Campaign predictably dumped their besieged bloggers after a blog-initiated and fed firestorm of criticism went mainstream and then, just as predicitably, cycled back into the Blogosphere for more fuel. The Edwards' bloggers first sin...</p>
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		<title>By: Just Shelley &#187; Rumblin&#39; in the Neighborhood</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/edwardss_bloggers_making_more_news_than_candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-112075</link>
		<dc:creator>Just Shelley &#187; Rumblin&#39; in the Neighborhood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 04:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As James Joyner points out: &quot;Bloggers have a &#039;paper&#039; trail. The longer someone has been blogging, the more of their sometimes-developed thoughts are out there for public consumption. Not only have they likely written things uncomplimentary to their now-boss, but they have almost certainly written things that could embarrass him.&quot; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As James Joyner points out: &#34;Bloggers have a &#39;paper&#39; trail. The longer someone has been blogging, the more of their sometimes-developed thoughts are out there for public consumption. Not only have they likely written things uncomplimentary to their now-boss, but they have almost certainly written things that could embarrass him.&#34; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah &#187; The sad tale of John Edwards&#8217; (now former) bloggers</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/edwardss_bloggers_making_more_news_than_candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-112063</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah &#187; The sad tale of John Edwards&#8217; (now former) bloggers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 02:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]    Posted By: Sister Toldjah in: Blogging/Blog Watch, Clueless Wonders  &#124; EMail This Post &#124; Print This Post &#124; &#160;&#160;      Trackback URI for this post:http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/02/07/the-sad-tale-of-john-edwards-now-former-bloggers/trackback/ &#187; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cernig</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/edwardss_bloggers_making_more_news_than_candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-112050</link>
		<dc:creator>Cernig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 00:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

You&#039;re link only gives Marcotte quotes. Which is exactly my point. Melissa McEwan is being swiftboated on a &quot;her too&quot; basis but when you actually look, there&#039;s no &quot;there&quot; there.

Regards, C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>You're link only gives Marcotte quotes. Which is exactly my point. Melissa McEwan is being swiftboated on a "her too" basis but when you actually look, there's no "there" there.</p>
<p>Regards, C</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Barnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MjYzN2FiZjFmOGIwZDcyZDQ1NzM1MDU5OGM2MzljZTE=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;

here is a link to what they said</description>
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<p>here is a link to what they said</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Anchoress &#187; Edwards fires blogmasters? &#38; Other stories of suppression</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/edwardss_bloggers_making_more_news_than_candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-112029</link>
		<dc:creator>The Anchoress &#187; Edwards fires blogmasters? &#38; Other stories of suppression</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Also writing: Instapundit Beltway Blogroll Jay Reding Ann Althouse Rand Simberg Confederate Yankee Political Pit Bull Dean Barnett CBS Public Eye Right Wing Nuthouse Hot Air American Princess Mary Katharine Ham Wizbang James Joyner  The Political Pit Bull tracked back with John Edwards&#039;s New Bloggers Causing Him Trouble; Update: Fired!   Posted on:  7 Comments ? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Also writing: Instapundit Beltway Blogroll Jay Reding Ann Althouse Rand Simberg Confederate Yankee Political Pit Bull Dean Barnett CBS Public Eye Right Wing Nuthouse Hot Air American Princess Mary Katharine Ham Wizbang James Joyner  The Political Pit Bull tracked back with John Edwards's New Bloggers Causing Him Trouble; Update: Fired!   Posted on:  7 Comments ? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cernig</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/edwardss_bloggers_making_more_news_than_candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-112015</link>
		<dc:creator>Cernig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 20:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Salon&lt;/a&gt; is reporting that both bloggers have been fired. 

Regards, C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, <a href="http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/" rel="nofollow">Salon</a> is reporting that both bloggers have been fired. </p>
<p>Regards, C</p>
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		<title>By: Sensible Mom</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/edwardss_bloggers_making_more_news_than_candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-112012</link>
		<dc:creator>Sensible Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 20:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Edwards Pulls A Warner...&lt;/strong&gt;

Candidates for office should read all the scriblings by bloggers before deciding to hire them. First Mark Warner hired a blogger and kooky astrologer, who was also under investigation by the SEC, and now Edwards is in hot water for...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Edwards Pulls A Warner...</strong></p>
<p>Candidates for office should read all the scriblings by bloggers before deciding to hire them. First Mark Warner hired a blogger and kooky astrologer, who was also under investigation by the SEC, and now Edwards is in hot water for...</p>
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		<title>By: Bill's Bites</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/edwardss_bloggers_making_more_news_than_candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-111999</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill's Bites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Can&#039;t you just picture Amanda Marcotte in Tony Snow&#039;s job?...&lt;/strong&gt;

... Read the whole thing. Michelle has this covered like dumb on Democrats. ... Edwards Campaign Reconsidering Blogger Hires Ed Morrissey The campaign of John Edwards, hailed for hiring two progressive bloggers for his 2008 Presidential campaign, has n...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Can't you just picture Amanda Marcotte in Tony Snow's job?...</strong></p>
<p>... Read the whole thing. Michelle has this covered like dumb on Democrats. ... Edwards Campaign Reconsidering Blogger Hires Ed Morrissey The campaign of John Edwards, hailed for hiring two progressive bloggers for his 2008 Presidential campaign, has n...</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/edwardss_bloggers_making_more_news_than_candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-111997</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Profanity = Strong expression from a weak mind.</description>
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		<title>By: Bandit</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/edwardss_bloggers_making_more_news_than_candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-111990</link>
		<dc:creator>Bandit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ignorant haters - pitch perfect for any Dem campaign</description>
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		<title>By: carpeicthus</title>
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		<dc:creator>carpeicthus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never been a fan of Amanda, but I rely on the principle that William Donahue is never right about anything, and it hasn&#039;t failed me yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've never been a fan of Amanda, but I rely on the principle that William Donahue is never right about anything, and it hasn't failed me yet.</p>
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		<title>By: The Proud Infidel</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/edwardss_bloggers_making_more_news_than_candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-111982</link>
		<dc:creator>The Proud Infidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to get too over the top here, but the first rule in debate is to never let emotion get the best of you, when you use profanity, you are simply stating that you do not have the valid resources to clearly state your views.  

This issue is really one that is neither left or right, simply put it is a guilt by association.  Our Mamas have all told us, &quot;If you lie down with dogs, you&#039;ll wake up with fleas&quot;.

Edwards&#039; campaign is in its infancy and this is a bullet that he is going to want to dodge.  Although Marcotte&#039;s views are extreme at best, it is her lack of being able to engage in a true discussion of an issue without having to always run into the gutter for cover that makes her less than effective when debating the issues. 

Marc

To James Joyner, your point on today&#039;s 10:13am comment regarding writing to an &quot;insular audience&quot; is very well taken and is at the heart of this debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to get too over the top here, but the first rule in debate is to never let emotion get the best of you, when you use profanity, you are simply stating that you do not have the valid resources to clearly state your views.  </p>
<p>This issue is really one that is neither left or right, simply put it is a guilt by association.  Our Mamas have all told us, "If you lie down with dogs, you'll wake up with fleas".</p>
<p>Edwards' campaign is in its infancy and this is a bullet that he is going to want to dodge.  Although Marcotte's views are extreme at best, it is her lack of being able to engage in a true discussion of an issue without having to always run into the gutter for cover that makes her less than effective when debating the issues. </p>
<p>Marc</p>
<p>To James Joyner, your point on today's 10:13am comment regarding writing to an "insular audience" is very well taken and is at the heart of this debate.</p>
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