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		<title>By: angelweave</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/elderly_woman_arrested_for_not_watering_lawn/comment-page-1/#comment-137753</link>
		<dc:creator>angelweave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Water!  Now! Stat!...&lt;/strong&gt;

What? A woman&#039;s been arrested for not watering her lawn? IN AMERICA! Brian and I better not answer our door. Not sure we&#039;ve EVER watered our lawn. If you don&#039;t water it, it doesn&#039;t grow as quickly. The woman lives in Orem, UT - bet they&#039;ve got an ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Water!  Now! Stat!...</strong></p>
<p>What? A woman's been arrested for not watering her lawn? IN AMERICA! Brian and I better not answer our door. Not sure we've EVER watered our lawn. If you don't water it, it doesn't grow as quickly. The woman lives in Orem, UT - bet they've got an ...</p>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/elderly_woman_arrested_for_not_watering_lawn/comment-page-1/#comment-137715</link>
		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If their are any lovers of liberty in Orem, they ought to gather at the courthouse for the purpose of &quot;watering&quot; the lawn! [And maybe fertilizing it too]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If their are any lovers of liberty in Orem, they ought to gather at the courthouse for the purpose of "watering" the lawn! [And maybe fertilizing it too]</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/elderly_woman_arrested_for_not_watering_lawn/comment-page-1/#comment-137700</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;We can blame the officer involved but we must also blame modern police training. Officers are taught to control and intimidate when dealing with the public, treating all citizens as potential threats and criminals. It has to stop.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think that there is clearly something to this--and it is disturbing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We can blame the officer involved but we must also blame modern police training. Officers are taught to control and intimidate when dealing with the public, treating all citizens as potential threats and criminals. It has to stop.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think that there is clearly something to this--and it is disturbing.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Plunk</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/elderly_woman_arrested_for_not_watering_lawn/comment-page-1/#comment-137695</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Plunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It disturbs me that a civil dispute turned into a criminal arrest because the elderly woman did not submit to the authority of a police officer while on her own property.  She posed no threat to the officer or anyone else when refusing the citation.

We can blame the officer involved but we must also blame modern police training.  Officers are taught to control and intimidate when dealing with the public, treating all citizens as potential threats and criminals.  It has to stop.

The verbal and physical intimidation training will continue to lead to simple disagreements becoming arrests or violent conflicts when completely unnecessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It disturbs me that a civil dispute turned into a criminal arrest because the elderly woman did not submit to the authority of a police officer while on her own property.  She posed no threat to the officer or anyone else when refusing the citation.</p>
<p>We can blame the officer involved but we must also blame modern police training.  Officers are taught to control and intimidate when dealing with the public, treating all citizens as potential threats and criminals.  It has to stop.</p>
<p>The verbal and physical intimidation training will continue to lead to simple disagreements becoming arrests or violent conflicts when completely unnecessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That incident even made it to the local newspapers in Germany!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, that&#039;s OK; the &quot;smelly feet&quot; thing started in Germany and made the papers here.  

That&#039;s fair trade!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That incident even made it to the local newspapers in Germany!</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, that's OK; the "smelly feet" thing started in Germany and made the papers here.  </p>
<p>That's fair trade!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In your above comment, you say &quot;THERE IS NO DOUBT&quot; the woman is telling the truth.........You need to open your mind to a &quot;shadow of a doubt&quot;, because I know that woman personally!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually Russell, Alex wrote that he did not doubt that the woman was telling the truth about not being able to afford to water her lawn, not that he didn&#039;t doubt all aspects of her story.

&lt;blockquote&gt;When he grabbed her arm to keep her from running into the house, because he wanted to give a citation, she flipped out and absolutely went nuts. At that point, no question it would have been better to find a way out of it, but the woman gave him very little choice. 

The officer could have used a little better judgement---looking hindsight I guarantee he&#039;d agree. But I promise that if the lady was younger-----your age maybe----no one would care. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes and the most obvious was to find out who lived there (county records and all that you know) write the citation and then mail it to her.  Grabbing her was unneccesary and stupid.  The cop deserves what he&#039;s getting.  I have no sympathy for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In your above comment, you say "THERE IS NO DOUBT" the woman is telling the truth.........You need to open your mind to a "shadow of a doubt", because I know that woman personally!</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually Russell, Alex wrote that he did not doubt that the woman was telling the truth about not being able to afford to water her lawn, not that he didn't doubt all aspects of her story.</p>
<blockquote><p>When he grabbed her arm to keep her from running into the house, because he wanted to give a citation, she flipped out and absolutely went nuts. At that point, no question it would have been better to find a way out of it, but the woman gave him very little choice. </p>
<p>The officer could have used a little better judgement---looking hindsight I guarantee he'd agree. But I promise that if the lady was younger-----your age maybe----no one would care. </p></blockquote>
<p>Yes and the most obvious was to find out who lived there (county records and all that you know) write the citation and then mail it to her.  Grabbing her was unneccesary and stupid.  The cop deserves what he's getting.  I have no sympathy for him.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That incident even made it to the local newspapers in Germany!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That incident even made it to the local newspapers in Germany!</p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about this........Don&#039;t believe everything you read in the paper. 

The property has been a serious problem for quite some time. The neighbors have been complaining for years, demanding action. When the officer went to the house, the woman flat out refused to follow the City Statutes. She then refused to give her name or any other information. She was combative and even pushed her way passed the officer. When he grabbed her arm to keep her from running into the house, because he wanted to give a citation, she flipped out and absolutely went nuts. At that point, no question it would have been better to find a way out of it, but the woman gave him very little choice. 

The officer could have used a little better judgement---looking hindsight I guarantee he&#039;d agree. But I promise that if the lady was younger-----your age maybe----no one would care. 

In your above comment, you say &quot;THERE IS NO DOUBT&quot; the woman is telling the truth.........You need to open your mind to a &quot;shadow of a doubt&quot;, because I know that woman personally!

To finish.........don&#039;t focus so much that it was her dry lawn that caused this. Think about the fact that the problem was exponentially more than just a dry lawn, that even prompted the officer to respond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about this........Don't believe everything you read in the paper. </p>
<p>The property has been a serious problem for quite some time. The neighbors have been complaining for years, demanding action. When the officer went to the house, the woman flat out refused to follow the City Statutes. She then refused to give her name or any other information. She was combative and even pushed her way passed the officer. When he grabbed her arm to keep her from running into the house, because he wanted to give a citation, she flipped out and absolutely went nuts. At that point, no question it would have been better to find a way out of it, but the woman gave him very little choice. </p>
<p>The officer could have used a little better judgement---looking hindsight I guarantee he'd agree. But I promise that if the lady was younger-----your age maybe----no one would care. </p>
<p>In your above comment, you say "THERE IS NO DOUBT" the woman is telling the truth.........You need to open your mind to a "shadow of a doubt", because I know that woman personally!</p>
<p>To finish.........don't focus so much that it was her dry lawn that caused this. Think about the fact that the problem was exponentially more than just a dry lawn, that even prompted the officer to respond.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats what I was thinking. In some parts of the USA she would be called a model citizen for not watering her lawn. One of her nice neighbours must have logged a complait in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats what I was thinking. In some parts of the USA she would be called a model citizen for not watering her lawn. One of her nice neighbours must have logged a complait in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: cirby</title>
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		<dc:creator>cirby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 04:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and, of course, in many parts of the country, you get fined (sometimes heavily) for watering your lawn too much...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>...and, of course, in many parts of the country, you get fined (sometimes heavily) for watering your lawn too much...</p>
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