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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We interupt this food fight for a public service announcement:

Proper liver function requires protein, generally not thought sufficient from non-meat sources. 

In addition, my condolences for missing all those fine steak dinners at Mortons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We interupt this food fight for a public service announcement:</p>
<p>Proper liver function requires protein, generally not thought sufficient from non-meat sources. </p>
<p>In addition, my condolences for missing all those fine steak dinners at Mortons.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/emc2_/comment-page-1/#comment-527761</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 05:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real tragedy is what they might have accomplished with a more balanced diet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real tragedy is what they might have accomplished with a more balanced diet.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/emc2_/comment-page-1/#comment-527604</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 20:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Which would seem to fly in the face of your claim of being vegan.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ummm, Bitsy I never said I was a vegan, I said I am a vegetarian. Words mean things.

&lt;blockquote&gt;So very *natural*.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Is modern medicine &quot;natural&quot;? Nope. What&#039;s your point?

I don&#039;t think being a vegetarian is a &quot;natural&quot; state of affairs for human beings, who after all evolved as carnivores. Being a vegetarian is an act of putting your intellect and morality above your instincts.

&quot;It is my view that the vegetarian manner of living by its purely physical effect on the human temperament would most beneficially influence the lot of mankind.&quot;

-Albert Einstein 

&quot;I have from an early age abjured the use of meat, and the time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men.&quot;

- Leonardo da Vinci</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Which would seem to fly in the face of your claim of being vegan.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ummm, Bitsy I never said I was a vegan, I said I am a vegetarian. Words mean things.</p>
<blockquote><p>So very *natural*.</p></blockquote>
<p>Is modern medicine "natural"? Nope. What's your point?</p>
<p>I don't think being a vegetarian is a "natural" state of affairs for human beings, who after all evolved as carnivores. Being a vegetarian is an act of putting your intellect and morality above your instincts.</p>
<p>"It is my view that the vegetarian manner of living by its purely physical effect on the human temperament would most beneficially influence the lot of mankind."</p>
<p>-Albert Einstein </p>
<p>"I have from an early age abjured the use of meat, and the time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men."</p>
<p>- Leonardo da Vinci</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/emc2_/comment-page-1/#comment-527574</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Being a vegeterian does require diet management to avoid vitamin defeciencies. Then there are these things you may not have heard of at the drug store called &quot;vitamin tablets&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So very *natural*.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I do regard a vegan diet as unhealthy, animal fats are a requirement for good health. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which would seem to fly in the face of your claim of being vegan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Being a vegeterian does require diet management to avoid vitamin defeciencies. Then there are these things you may not have heard of at the drug store called "vitamin tablets"</p></blockquote>
<p>So very *natural*.</p>
<blockquote><p>I do regard a vegan diet as unhealthy, animal fats are a requirement for good health.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Which would seem to fly in the face of your claim of being vegan.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/emc2_/comment-page-1/#comment-527571</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; Much is explained.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Its like an obsession with you  :)

&lt;blockquote&gt;Vegans and vegetarians are the most likely to be deficient because the best sources of the vitamin are meat, particularly liver, milk and fish.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Being a vegeterian does require diet management to avoid vitamin defeciencies. Then there are these things you may not have heard of at the drug store called &quot;vitamin tablets&quot;.

I do regard a vegan diet as unhealthy, animal fats are a requirement for good health. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;You seem to forget; I read leftie blogs too... and in many years of doing so, I have yet to see any evidence of thought process among them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The blind man in the land of the sighted. &quot;what are these rainbows everyone keeps talking about&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Much is explained.</p></blockquote>
<p>Its like an obsession with you  :)</p>
<blockquote><p>Vegans and vegetarians are the most likely to be deficient because the best sources of the vitamin are meat, particularly liver, milk and fish.</p></blockquote>
<p>Being a vegeterian does require diet management to avoid vitamin defeciencies. Then there are these things you may not have heard of at the drug store called "vitamin tablets".</p>
<p>I do regard a vegan diet as unhealthy, animal fats are a requirement for good health. </p>
<blockquote><p>You seem to forget; I read leftie blogs too... and in many years of doing so, I have yet to see any evidence of thought process among them.</p></blockquote>
<p>The blind man in the land of the sighted. "what are these rainbows everyone keeps talking about"?</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Yesterday I really blessed my 20 years of vegetarian living).
&lt;a href=&quot;http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/HealthSci/Eating_veggies_shrinks_the_brain/articleshow/3480629.cms&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
MELBOURNE:&lt;/a&gt; Scientists have discovered that going veggie could be bad for your brain-with those on a meat-free diet six times more likely to suffer brain shrinkage.

Vegans and vegetarians are the most likely to be deficient because the best sources of the vitamin are meat, particularly liver, milk and fish.

Much is explained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Yesterday I really blessed my 20 years of vegetarian living).<br />
<a href="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/HealthSci/Eating_veggies_shrinks_the_brain/articleshow/3480629.cms" rel="nofollow"><br />
MELBOURNE:</a> Scientists have discovered that going veggie could be bad for your brain-with those on a meat-free diet six times more likely to suffer brain shrinkage.</p>
<p>Vegans and vegetarians are the most likely to be deficient because the best sources of the vitamin are meat, particularly liver, milk and fish.</p>
<p>Much is explained.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/emc2_/comment-page-1/#comment-527565</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;When is Bithead going to tell us that he once worked in quantum mechanics and he KNOWS physics?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s like an addiction with you, isn&#039;t it?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Perhaps politically active people on the &quot;left&quot; are just too smart to fall for that kind of crap and prefer blogs, where there is at least an exchange of ideas and generally some level of actual thought going on.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You seem to forget; I read leftie blogs too... and in many years of doing so, I have yet to see any evidence of thought process among them.

By the way, &lt;strong&gt;James&lt;/strong&gt;; the comment from me about Air America, etc was supposed to end up in the thread next door. I&#039;ve no idea what happened, there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When is Bithead going to tell us that he once worked in quantum mechanics and he KNOWS physics?</p></blockquote>
<p>It's like an addiction with you, isn't it?</p>
<blockquote><p>Perhaps politically active people on the "left" are just too smart to fall for that kind of crap and prefer blogs, where there is at least an exchange of ideas and generally some level of actual thought going on.</p></blockquote>
<p>You seem to forget; I read leftie blogs too... and in many years of doing so, I have yet to see any evidence of thought process among them.</p>
<p>By the way, <strong>James</strong>; the comment from me about Air America, etc was supposed to end up in the thread next door. I've no idea what happened, there.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/emc2_/comment-page-1/#comment-527521</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Clearly, there&#039;s some other motivation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Perhaps politically active people on the &quot;left&quot; are just too smart to fall for that kind of crap and prefer blogs, where there is at least an exchange of ideas and generally some level of actual thought going on.

On the other side of the aisle, we have those who think the Turkey Terminator is America&#039;s great hope. (Yesterday I really blessed my 20 years of vegetarian living).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Clearly, there's some other motivation.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps politically active people on the "left" are just too smart to fall for that kind of crap and prefer blogs, where there is at least an exchange of ideas and generally some level of actual thought going on.</p>
<p>On the other side of the aisle, we have those who think the Turkey Terminator is America's great hope. (Yesterday I really blessed my 20 years of vegetarian living).</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/emc2_/comment-page-1/#comment-527520</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When is Bithead going to tell us that he once worked in quantum mechanics and he KNOWS physics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When is Bithead going to tell us that he once worked in quantum mechanics and he KNOWS physics?</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;According to the conventional model of particle physics, protons and neutrons (are comprised of) smaller particles known as quarks, which in turn are bound by gluons. The odd thing is this: the mass of gluons is zero and the mass of quarks is only five percent. Where, therefore, is the missing 95 percent?&quot;

I didn&#039;t see the article, but it appears to have been sloppily written.  First, if I recall correctly, quarks are generally only 1% of the &quot;mass,&quot; with the balance found in gluons.  And although gluons are &quot;massless&quot; in the Newtonian sense, they have energy, and so in fact comprise the balance of the &quot;missing mass,&quot; but with that &quot;mass&quot; being the defined in the general relativity sense.

The guy mixed his definitions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"According to the conventional model of particle physics, protons and neutrons (are comprised of) smaller particles known as quarks, which in turn are bound by gluons. The odd thing is this: the mass of gluons is zero and the mass of quarks is only five percent. Where, therefore, is the missing 95 percent?"</p>
<p>I didn't see the article, but it appears to have been sloppily written.  First, if I recall correctly, quarks are generally only 1% of the "mass," with the balance found in gluons.  And although gluons are "massless" in the Newtonian sense, they have energy, and so in fact comprise the balance of the "missing mass," but with that "mass" being the defined in the general relativity sense.</p>
<p>The guy mixed his definitions.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Talk radio is about entertainment and drama, not persuasion.

Well James, YOU may know that, but I suspect quite a few folks don&#039;t. Just read some of the posts in here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Counter: Look at the listnership numbers from Air America. Certainly, there was no shortage of drama on that network. Clearly, there&#039;s some other motivation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Schrödinger&#039;s Bithead</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Talk radio is about entertainment and drama, not persuasion.</p>
<p>Well James, YOU may know that, but I suspect quite a few folks don't. Just read some of the posts in here.</p></blockquote>
<p>Counter: Look at the listnership numbers from Air America. Certainly, there was no shortage of drama on that network. Clearly, there's some other motivation.</p></blockquote>
<p>Schrödinger's Bithead</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/emc2_/comment-page-1/#comment-527340</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Talk radio is about entertainment and drama, not persuasion.&lt;/em&gt;

Well James, YOU may know that, but I suspect quite a few folks don&#039;t. Just read some of the posts in here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Counter: Look at the listnership numbers from Air America. Certainly, there was no shortage of drama on that network. Clearly, there&#039;s some other motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>Talk radio is about entertainment and drama, not persuasion.</em></p>
<p>Well James, YOU may know that, but I suspect quite a few folks don't. Just read some of the posts in here.</p></blockquote>
<p>Counter: Look at the listnership numbers from Air America. Certainly, there was no shortage of drama on that network. Clearly, there's some other motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would help if the article weren&#039;t so badly written:

&lt;i&gt;The odd thing is this: the mass of gluons is zero and the mass of quarks is only five percent. Where, therefore, is the missing 95 percent?&lt;/i&gt;

Percent of what?  I can infer that the answer is &quot;percent of the masses of protons and neutrons&quot; (which are fairly close to each other), but the article doesn&#039;t trouble to explain that, which seems inexcusable in writing for the general public.  The author doesn&#039;t seem to grasp that &quot;percent&quot; is not a unit of measure, but a relative term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would help if the article weren't so badly written:</p>
<p><i>The odd thing is this: the mass of gluons is zero and the mass of quarks is only five percent. Where, therefore, is the missing 95 percent?</i></p>
<p>Percent of what?  I can infer that the answer is "percent of the masses of protons and neutrons" (which are fairly close to each other), but the article doesn't trouble to explain that, which seems inexcusable in writing for the general public.  The author doesn't seem to grasp that "percent" is not a unit of measure, but a relative term.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...gluons were cutting edge science when I was learning that stuff.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I am ungodly old, then, because &lt;em&gt;electrons&lt;/em&gt; were cutting edge when I was learning that stuff. 

Not to mention that noticing that the coasts of the American continents and the European continents looked like they could fit like a jigsaw puzzle was dismissed as a coincidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>...gluons were cutting edge science when I was learning that stuff.</p></blockquote>
<p>I am ungodly old, then, because <em>electrons</em> were cutting edge when I was learning that stuff. </p>
<p>Not to mention that noticing that the coasts of the American continents and the European continents looked like they could fit like a jigsaw puzzle was dismissed as a coincidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
The odd thing is this: the mass of gluons is zero and the mass of quarks is only five percent. Where, therefore, is the missing 95 percent?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Right off the bat:  I didn&#039;t take it.  For some reason or other when anything goes missing around our place I&#039;m always the one who gets blamed but I can say with confidence that this time, at least, it wasn&#039;t me.</description>
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The odd thing is this: the mass of gluons is zero and the mass of quarks is only five percent. Where, therefore, is the missing 95 percent?
</p></blockquote>
<p>Right off the bat:  I didn't take it.  For some reason or other when anything goes missing around our place I'm always the one who gets blamed but I can say with confidence that this time, at least, it wasn't me.</p>
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