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	<title>Comments on: Ending the Vice Presidency II</title>
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		<title>By: Get Rid Of This, End That, Soon Enough It Will Add Up To Real Money &#171; Around The Sphere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Get Rid Of This, End That, Soon Enough It Will Add Up To Real Money &#171; Around The Sphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Raoul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advocating the abolition of the OVP is merely addressing a symptom a of a greater problem. To be sure, our dysfunctional political system could use vast improvement. A parliamentary system would fix many of the problems, from obstructionism to elections to rogue offices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advocating the abolition of the OVP is merely addressing a symptom a of a greater problem. To be sure, our dysfunctional political system could use vast improvement. A parliamentary system would fix many of the problems, from obstructionism to elections to rogue offices.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course is that we are making these decisions for what role is valid and invalid, and what role should provide a backup for the presidency, based on the personalities that fill them, fairly recently.  Lott apparently feels that the role of VP is counter-productive based on what he calls a list of &quot;troubling and divisive men&quot; who have had that role. Obviously, this is rather like the blind men trying to identify an elephant by feel, each coming up with their different answer, based on what end they&#039;re feeling at the moment. Put another way, the points he makes tend to get muddled when the line between personality and logistics gets fuzzy.  

To wit; I can&#039;t help but wonder personally whether not Mr. Lott is calling for the end of the vice presidency as a role, because of the pattern that has developed over the last several presidencies, not so much from a logistics point of view.  

I think we can exemplify the pattern with the last few.  Al Gore, Dick Cheney , Joe Biden.  

In order, a complete moron who could not identify a bust of Ben Franklin upon looking at him, and is firmly convinced the best way to deal with the worlds problems is to cut off all energy use, Dick Cheney, who liberals don&#039;t like, and yet was an extraordinarily strong a vice president at give in his president&#039;s policy in the implementation thereof, and Joe Biden whose level of idiocy has yet to be defined, but is certainly looking promising, given his history, even since taking on the position.

There is much to dislike in that history of the VP, particularly for those of the center to left persuasion... (which I hasten to add, I doubt Mr Lott is sympathetic to, based on other reading I&#039;ve done of him.) 

There does seem to be plenty, however, to help sell&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1595550828?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=wwwviolentkicom&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1595550828&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Mr. Lott&#039;s book &lt;/a&gt;on the topic of the vice presidency.

So, are we&#039;re to eliminate the role of the vice presidency in these United States based on the fact that some people, apparently Mr. Lott included, don&#039;t like a few of those who filled the role?  Look; I happen to think Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, to be the two of the worst people for these United States in our history (aside from FDR, whose transgressions against this country were at least partially addressed by means of term limits)  and yet I&#039;m not screaming for the elimination of the presidency.  SZo, on what basis are we to make such a move against the VP?

One may generously assume that Mr. Lott has a more insightful point of view on the vice presidency based on the research for his book.  Yet the insights don&#039;t seem to be clearly listed in the Washington post article promoting it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course is that we are making these decisions for what role is valid and invalid, and what role should provide a backup for the presidency, based on the personalities that fill them, fairly recently.  Lott apparently feels that the role of VP is counter-productive based on what he calls a list of "troubling and divisive men" who have had that role. Obviously, this is rather like the blind men trying to identify an elephant by feel, each coming up with their different answer, based on what end they're feeling at the moment. Put another way, the points he makes tend to get muddled when the line between personality and logistics gets fuzzy.  </p>
<p>To wit; I can't help but wonder personally whether not Mr. Lott is calling for the end of the vice presidency as a role, because of the pattern that has developed over the last several presidencies, not so much from a logistics point of view.  </p>
<p>I think we can exemplify the pattern with the last few.  Al Gore, Dick Cheney , Joe Biden.  </p>
<p>In order, a complete moron who could not identify a bust of Ben Franklin upon looking at him, and is firmly convinced the best way to deal with the worlds problems is to cut off all energy use, Dick Cheney, who liberals don't like, and yet was an extraordinarily strong a vice president at give in his president's policy in the implementation thereof, and Joe Biden whose level of idiocy has yet to be defined, but is certainly looking promising, given his history, even since taking on the position.</p>
<p>There is much to dislike in that history of the VP, particularly for those of the center to left persuasion... (which I hasten to add, I doubt Mr Lott is sympathetic to, based on other reading I've done of him.) </p>
<p>There does seem to be plenty, however, to help sell<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1595550828?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=wwwviolentkicom&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1595550828" rel="nofollow"> Mr. Lott's book </a>on the topic of the vice presidency.</p>
<p>So, are we're to eliminate the role of the vice presidency in these United States based on the fact that some people, apparently Mr. Lott included, don't like a few of those who filled the role?  Look; I happen to think Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, to be the two of the worst people for these United States in our history (aside from FDR, whose transgressions against this country were at least partially addressed by means of term limits)  and yet I'm not screaming for the elimination of the presidency.  SZo, on what basis are we to make such a move against the VP?</p>
<p>One may generously assume that Mr. Lott has a more insightful point of view on the vice presidency based on the research for his book.  Yet the insights don't seem to be clearly listed in the Washington post article promoting it.</p>
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