Comments on: European Hypocrites

By: Steve Verdon

Steve Verdon — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:19:27 +0000

Who said “never” get it to work?

YAJ, well you have to have the special reading glasses that M1EK has...the ones that allows him to divine the true meaning of a person's written words.

By: M1EK

M1EK — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:11:24 +0000

yetanotherjohn,

The jury's still out. A ton of measures many of those countries enacted in an attempt to reduce CO2 have delayed impact, even if they work perfectly (passing a bill to subsidize wind energy, then wait years for the turbines to actually be built, for instance).

By: yetanotherjohn

yetanotherjohn — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 15:53:59 +0000

M1EK,

Who said "never" get it to work? Steve pointed out the problems inherent in a cap and trade system which in turn means that their needs to be a means to prevent cheating. The fact that cap and trade could work was never in dispute. The question was did Kyoto get even close to getting the right set up and the data is saying no.

By: M1EK

M1EK — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:55:52 +0000

The theory that we could never ever get a cap/trade scheme to work because of the incentive to cheat kind of fails when you look at the whole CFC thing, don't it?

By: anjin-san

anjin-san — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:33:10 +0000

Burgess,

I have a great idea, why don't you walk into a pub in Liverpool or a bar in Dresden and start talking about "Euroweenies"?

By: John Burgess

John Burgess — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:42:31 +0000

I find it tres amusante that the Euroweenies were able to get away with a game of three-card monty on global warming.

When they signed Kyoto, they knew they could reach the goals for the first few years. The UK had closed it dirty coal mines and steel industry; Germany had closed the hyper-polluting factories in the former Eastern Germany.

Now, though, having already cashed that chip, they find they're unable to meet targets without incurring unacceptable economic costs. Imagine that...

By: anjin-san

anjin-san — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:59:04 +0000

bee,

text me when you return to planet earth...

By: bee

bee — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:42:09 +0000

The problem with the treaty is that it is NOT based upon science. We do not have a global warming problem. This is not a contested issue.

By: Stanford Matthews

Stanford Matthews — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 02:09:55 +0000

With Tony Blair's global warming announcement and a 700 page report this week I at first was pleased someone was addressing the item and who better than likeable Tony Blair? Seems the EU has some of the same characteristics of American public issue debate. Click Here for More

By: davod

davod — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 01:06:43 +0000

My problem with the Kyoto treaty is that it left developing nations off the hook. It would have been far easier for these nations to put in place more environmentally friendly techniques because they had little to change. The cost could have been mitigated by foreign aid.

By: anjin-san

anjin-san — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:28:35 +0000

Europe may well be talking a better game then it plays in regards to global warming. That does not excuse our own inaction and failure to take steps to protect the environment.

Perhaps we should put more effort into tending to our own garden and less into pointing out the shortcomings of others...

By: yetanotherjohn

yetanotherjohn — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:47:09 +0000

Its a good thing its so hard to fire people in Europe or some people would be sweating having to explain the $15 billion of carbon credits they bought. But as it is, its just a minor inconvenient truth.