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	<title>Comments on: Experimental Hybrid Cars Get Up to 250 MPG</title>
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		<title>By: John Segul</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Segul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 18:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t you just love the Nay-sayers and the &quot;not invented here&quot; crowd. And &quot;It never existed before, how could it possibly exist now.&quot; bunch of lame brains.  Don&#039;t waste your time arguing why todays technolgy won&#039;t help the guy that is hauling 10000 pounds of concrete to his work place every day, just wave to them as you pass them at the gas pumps.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don't you just love the Nay-sayers and the "not invented here" crowd. And "It never existed before, how could it possibly exist now." bunch of lame brains.  Don't waste your time arguing why todays technolgy won't help the guy that is hauling 10000 pounds of concrete to his work place every day, just wave to them as you pass them at the gas pumps.  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just keep in mind, according to an Atlantic Monthly article last year, for every $1 gain in the price of a barrel of crude, the Saudis get an additional $3 billion a month.  Just think of how many Wahhabi mosques that funds around the world!  And crude is up what, 40% this year?  Awesome, makes me want to vomit every time I fill up my car.  Personally, I&#039;ve been riding my bike a lot more recently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just keep in mind, according to an Atlantic Monthly article last year, for every $1 gain in the price of a barrel of crude, the Saudis get an additional $3 billion a month.  Just think of how many Wahhabi mosques that funds around the world!  And crude is up what, 40% this year?  Awesome, makes me want to vomit every time I fill up my car.  Personally, I've been riding my bike a lot more recently.</p>
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		<title>By: Deinonychus antirrhopus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deinonychus antirrhopus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 18:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The 250 MPG Hybrid&lt;/strong&gt;

Via Outside the Beltway comes this article about hybrids getting up to 250 MPG. In carfully reading the article one will note that the the article&#039;s title is a bit misleading in that most of the cars described do not get the vaunted 250 MPG. But there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The 250 MPG Hybrid</strong></p>
<p>Via Outside the Beltway comes this article about hybrids getting up to 250 MPG. In carfully reading the article one will note that the the article's title is a bit misleading in that most of the cars described do not get the vaunted 250 MPG. But there...</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 17:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I am sure not going to get excited about any car getting good mileage. Before any vehicle gets into production, the oil companies will do all they can to keep their âCash Cowâ going including paying off politicians to out and out skulduggery to see such a vehicle is not offered to the public.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Bwahahahahaha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am sure not going to get excited about any car getting good mileage. Before any vehicle gets into production, the oil companies will do all they can to keep their âCash Cowâ going including paying off politicians to out and out skulduggery to see such a vehicle is not offered to the public.</p></blockquote>
<p>Bwahahahahaha.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Singleton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Singleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 17:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Get Up to 250 Mpg&lt;/strong&gt;

I don&#039;t think he is going to get anywhere near enough from Solar Power, solar powered homes still need a connection to the Electric Company for backup, but nuclear power is a viable solution, if we can get past the environmental lawyers fighting the ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Get Up to 250 Mpg</strong></p>
<p>I don't think he is going to get anywhere near enough from Solar Power, solar powered homes still need a connection to the Electric Company for backup, but nuclear power is a viable solution, if we can get past the environmental lawyers fighting the ...</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 13:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, Herb. The oil companies are going to make more money by jacking up prices until the airlines go bankrupt, bread costs $15 a loaf, and people&#039;s idea of a luxury vacation is to walk to the city swimming pool instead of driving to the beach.

Say it with me: &lt;b&gt;You don&#039;t make more money by selling less product.&lt;/b&gt;

What&#039;s going on here is massive new demand in developing countries. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, Herb. The oil companies are going to make more money by jacking up prices until the airlines go bankrupt, bread costs $15 a loaf, and people's idea of a luxury vacation is to walk to the city swimming pool instead of driving to the beach.</p>
<p>Say it with me: <b>You don't make more money by selling less product.</b></p>
<p>What's going on here is massive new demand in developing countries. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Middle Earth Journal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Middle Earth Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 12:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Hybrid Mania&lt;/strong&gt;

Reading the details of the article, you can see that the 250 mpg figure is an absolute extreme, achieved rarely in vehicles with huge, cost prohibitive modifications and only under certain driving conditions. But that doesn&#039;t take away from the fact ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Hybrid Mania</strong></p>
<p>Reading the details of the article, you can see that the 250 mpg figure is an absolute extreme, achieved rarely in vehicles with huge, cost prohibitive modifications and only under certain driving conditions. But that doesn't take away from the fact ...</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 12:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RJN:

I have heard the same stories also. 

But, the oil companies are reaping tremendous profits with the oil prices so high. I hope for one minute you don&#039;t think that the oil companies are not controlling the price of oil.

And, I hope that you don&#039;t think that the almighty dollar is not manipulated by those who stand to make even more money.

The oil companies don&#039;t care one bit about you and I, they only think about money and that alone is what high oil prices is all about.

If you think differently, then you are foolish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RJN:</p>
<p>I have heard the same stories also. </p>
<p>But, the oil companies are reaping tremendous profits with the oil prices so high. I hope for one minute you don't think that the oil companies are not controlling the price of oil.</p>
<p>And, I hope that you don't think that the almighty dollar is not manipulated by those who stand to make even more money.</p>
<p>The oil companies don't care one bit about you and I, they only think about money and that alone is what high oil prices is all about.</p>
<p>If you think differently, then you are foolish.</p>
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		<title>By: RJN</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 06:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nuclear powered generators would work. I suppose more efficient solar will come along, and that will help. All of this stuff is 10-20 years away at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nuclear powered generators would work. I suppose more efficient solar will come along, and that will help. All of this stuff is 10-20 years away at best.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Surber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Surber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 05:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IF it worked, what would it run on? Electricity. And how do we get more than half the electricity in the United States? By tearing down mountains to get the coal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF it worked, what would it run on? Electricity. And how do we get more than half the electricity in the United States? By tearing down mountains to get the coal.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Surber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Surber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 05:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Myth Of 250 MPG Car &lt;/strong&gt;

So did James Joyner over at Outside the Beltway who pierced this faux story like the puss it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Myth Of 250 MPG Car </strong></p>
<p>So did James Joyner over at Outside the Beltway who pierced this faux story like the puss it is.</p>
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		<title>By: RJN</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 04:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bithead:   Sorry, I wasn&#039;t clear that I was thinking about family, or personal transportation. I don&#039;t think there is much hope for RV&#039;s or vans or trucks until hydrogen comes along. Propane and natural gas  track gasoline in cost, so there is not much hope there for cost savings in heavy local hauling. Hybrids for semi&#039;s isn&#039;t going to happen, is it? Hydrogen for semi&#039;s would be great with V-12s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bithead:   Sorry, I wasn't clear that I was thinking about family, or personal transportation. I don't think there is much hope for RV's or vans or trucks until hydrogen comes along. Propane and natural gas  track gasoline in cost, so there is not much hope there for cost savings in heavy local hauling. Hybrids for semi's isn't going to happen, is it? Hydrogen for semi's would be great with V-12s.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 03:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IN my own case, it&#039;s hardly the exception. 
I put about 30,000 OTR miles on my van per year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IN my own case, it's hardly the exception.<br />
I put about 30,000 OTR miles on my van per year.</p>
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		<title>By: RJN</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 02:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Herb:  I have been hearing goofy stories about &quot;sinister oil companies&quot;, and 100 mile per gallon carburetor stories for sixty years. They were hokum  sixty years ago and they are hokum now.

BTW: Twenty five cents buys about 2 horsepower hours of electricity. How are you going to drive at 40 miles per hour for one-half hour (20 miles) with only 2 horsepower? Or: How much of an assist can 2 horsepower give you? 

Bithead: The physics of it all say that we may be wise to have two vehicles. A smaller hybrid to commute with, and shop with, and a larger hybrid for the family car. Expensive gasoline makes for cheaper hybrids. Hybrids offer almost no advantage on long highway trips, but long highway trips are the exception and maybe we can&#039;t buy for the exception anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Herb:  I have been hearing goofy stories about "sinister oil companies", and 100 mile per gallon carburetor stories for sixty years. They were hokum  sixty years ago and they are hokum now.</p>
<p>BTW: Twenty five cents buys about 2 horsepower hours of electricity. How are you going to drive at 40 miles per hour for one-half hour (20 miles) with only 2 horsepower? Or: How much of an assist can 2 horsepower give you? </p>
<p>Bithead: The physics of it all say that we may be wise to have two vehicles. A smaller hybrid to commute with, and shop with, and a larger hybrid for the family car. Expensive gasoline makes for cheaper hybrids. Hybrids offer almost no advantage on long highway trips, but long highway trips are the exception and maybe we can't buy for the exception anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 00:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

You&#039;re correct in saying this won&#039;t work for the family vacation. So are we now required to buy and maintain two seperate vehicle types?  One of the reasons SUV&#039;s and for that matter, mini-vans, are fairly popular is because of their flexability.

Personally, when they can come up with something that will tow 6000 lbs, for 700-plus miles per day, without a safety issue, as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/713892&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my current vehicle&lt;/a&gt; does, and yet will haul me back and forth to my job sites, I&#039;ll admit they&#039;ve got something.  A plug-in doesn&#039;t cut it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>You're correct in saying this won't work for the family vacation. So are we now required to buy and maintain two seperate vehicle types?  One of the reasons SUV's and for that matter, mini-vans, are fairly popular is because of their flexability.</p>
<p>Personally, when they can come up with something that will tow 6000 lbs, for 700-plus miles per day, without a safety issue, as <a href="http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/713892" rel="nofollow">my current vehicle</a> does, and yet will haul me back and forth to my job sites, I'll admit they've got something.  A plug-in doesn't cut it.</p>
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