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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/falling_out_of_love_with_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-472504</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Get a bigger brick&quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Bigger than the one between your ears?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Get a bigger brick".</p></blockquote>
<p>Bigger than the one between your ears?</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/falling_out_of_love_with_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-472193</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, the answer to the question, as always is &quot;Get a bigger brick&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, the answer to the question, as always is "Get a bigger brick".</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/falling_out_of_love_with_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-471484</link>
		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 04:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say that reading these comment threads on OTB is quite enlightening, purely from a sociological POV.  Being a moderate conservative site, James and his fellow bloggers don&#039;t really provide a lot of red meat, rather they just seem to enjoy setting up a cock fight and watching the results - as long as it doesn&#039;t get too bloody and the cops don&#039;t bust the joint up.  This allows for some rather interesting mixing up of the views, which is quite unusual on the &#039;tubes.

One of these days I&#039;d love to have an intern crunch through the archive of comments just to do a simple content analysis and correlation to the political identity of the commenter.  I&#039;m sure there&#039;s some incredible papers waiting to be written about the results of even a simple analysis.  Correlating them to the time line of the progress of the Iraqi war and other events would also prove entertaining.

Ah, time....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say that reading these comment threads on OTB is quite enlightening, purely from a sociological POV.  Being a moderate conservative site, James and his fellow bloggers don't really provide a lot of red meat, rather they just seem to enjoy setting up a cock fight and watching the results - as long as it doesn't get too bloody and the cops don't bust the joint up.  This allows for some rather interesting mixing up of the views, which is quite unusual on the 'tubes.</p>
<p>One of these days I'd love to have an intern crunch through the archive of comments just to do a simple content analysis and correlation to the political identity of the commenter.  I'm sure there's some incredible papers waiting to be written about the results of even a simple analysis.  Correlating them to the time line of the progress of the Iraqi war and other events would also prove entertaining.</p>
<p>Ah, time....</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/falling_out_of_love_with_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-471455</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You were wrong about Kerry as you will be wrong about Obama&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ummm.....

I was working for Howard Dean when he was still Governor of Vermont. I never cared for Kerry, to me he was a clothespin vote.

Can&#039;t you guys get anything right? Or have you just been making crap up for so long you don&#039;t know the difference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You were wrong about Kerry as you will be wrong about Obama</p></blockquote>
<p>Ummm.....</p>
<p>I was working for Howard Dean when he was still Governor of Vermont. I never cared for Kerry, to me he was a clothespin vote.</p>
<p>Can't you guys get anything right? Or have you just been making crap up for so long you don't know the difference?</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/falling_out_of_love_with_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-471449</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Relative terms, though, Bit. The Democrats and Republicans would easily fit into the definiton of &quot;right&quot; in any of the major Western European &quot;conservative&quot; parties.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, no question, and it was not my intent to suggest otherwise. Still, as I&#039;ve pointed out in other threads today, the direction of travel is noteworthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Relative terms, though, Bit. The Democrats and Republicans would easily fit into the definiton of "right" in any of the major Western European "conservative" parties.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, no question, and it was not my intent to suggest otherwise. Still, as I've pointed out in other threads today, the direction of travel is noteworthy.</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know Obama is about to tell a lie when he says &quot;I have always said&quot;.  If you think I am or ever have solicited your opinion, you are as deluded as your hero.  Anjin, I have read the BS you write for some time now.  You were wrong about Kerry as you will be wrong about Obama.  Go figure.  As a pilot (Anjin) you cannot seem to find your own way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know Obama is about to tell a lie when he says "I have always said".  If you think I am or ever have solicited your opinion, you are as deluded as your hero.  Anjin, I have read the BS you write for some time now.  You were wrong about Kerry as you will be wrong about Obama.  Go figure.  As a pilot (Anjin) you cannot seem to find your own way.</p>
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		<title>By: Fence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Their problem was not Mr. Bush, but Mr. Big–America as Behemoth Among the Nations&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re thinking of al Qaeda.  The Europeans mostly just hate Bush.

And I&#039;m frankly not feeling so superpower anymore when I press my face to the window of a restaurant in London wishing it wouldn&#039;t cost me a day&#039;s wages just to go inside and have an appetizer.  The massive military thing is so last-century for determining the real superpower status of actual people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Their problem was not Mr. Bush, but Mr. Big–America as Behemoth Among the Nations</p></blockquote>
<p>You're thinking of al Qaeda.  The Europeans mostly just hate Bush.</p>
<p>And I'm frankly not feeling so superpower anymore when I press my face to the window of a restaurant in London wishing it wouldn't cost me a day's wages just to go inside and have an appetizer.  The massive military thing is so last-century for determining the real superpower status of actual people.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Interesting though that you said a good debate is not possible when I am involved yet you keep soliciting my opinion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Perhaps they&#039;re just curious how big a brick they have to use to get you to blink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Interesting though that you said a good debate is not possible when I am involved yet you keep soliciting my opinion.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps they're just curious how big a brick they have to use to get you to blink.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/falling_out_of_love_with_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-471224</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Anjin, do you disagree?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not really too interested in what you boys are ranting about...

Interesting though that you said a good debate is not possible when I am involved yet you keep soliciting my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Anjin, do you disagree?</p></blockquote>
<p>Not really too interested in what you boys are ranting about...</p>
<p>Interesting though that you said a good debate is not possible when I am involved yet you keep soliciting my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aiken, only those who need to get a grip are in the grip of Obamamainia.  What it shows is you have neither the depth of knowledge nor the ability to grasp who exactly Barrack Hussein Obama is.  Look at what he has accomplished in his past (nothing).  He is an abandoned child overcompensating for his losses.  His father abandoned him and his mother abandoned him.  If Rowe V Wade had been law back then, we would not be dealing with this issue.  The only thing Obama is good at is reading a teleprompter.  That&#039;s it and that&#039;s all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aiken, only those who need to get a grip are in the grip of Obamamainia.  What it shows is you have neither the depth of knowledge nor the ability to grasp who exactly Barrack Hussein Obama is.  Look at what he has accomplished in his past (nothing).  He is an abandoned child overcompensating for his losses.  His father abandoned him and his mother abandoned him.  If Rowe V Wade had been law back then, we would not be dealing with this issue.  The only thing Obama is good at is reading a teleprompter.  That's it and that's all.</p>
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		<title>By: Aiken Blue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aiken Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barack Obama is iconic, he does not need to mimic anybody. It almost seems like people are so envious of how he carries himself and his charisma that they would rather think he&#039;s a copy of somebody else than himself. He is himself, that is why the world is gripped by Obamamania. Vote for Obama! Visit &lt;a href=&quot;http://whyobama08.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WHYOBAMA08.org&lt;/a&gt;!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barack Obama is iconic, he does not need to mimic anybody. It almost seems like people are so envious of how he carries himself and his charisma that they would rather think he's a copy of somebody else than himself. He is himself, that is why the world is gripped by Obamamania. Vote for Obama! Visit <a href="http://whyobama08.org" rel="nofollow">WHYOBAMA08.org</a>!!</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/falling_out_of_love_with_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-471099</link>
		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Jack Kennedy, the president Barack Obama so self-consciously mimics, down to the tilt of his head and the inflection of his voice.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ve come to the view that folks have the wrong Kennedy here. Barack reminds me more of Bobby every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Jack Kennedy, the president Barack Obama so self-consciously mimics, down to the tilt of his head and the inflection of his voice.</p></blockquote>
<p>I've come to the view that folks have the wrong Kennedy here. Barack reminds me more of Bobby every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/falling_out_of_love_with_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-471067</link>
		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beldar, I think you nailed it.  Anjin, do you disagree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beldar, I think you nailed it.  Anjin, do you disagree?</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/falling_out_of_love_with_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-471064</link>
		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beldar, I think you nailed it.  Anjin, do you disagree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beldar, I think you nailed it.  Anjin, do you disagree?</p>
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		<title>By: Beldar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beldar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike P wrote, apparently with a straight face:

&lt;blockquote&gt;However, if that big kid uses his massive power for good and uses it in a humble manner, in a manner that truly seeks equitable solutions for all, then you can see a different dynamic.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course, Dubya overturned the Taliban and Saddam Hussein to promote evil. Those were good, humble, enlightened regimes that truly sought equitable solutions for all.  (Unless you were a non-Muslim. Or a Shi&#039;ite Muslim, for that matter. Or a woman. Or a westerner. Or a fan of democracy, liberty, and the rule of law. Or you smoked cigarettes. Or you looked at them cross-wise in just the particular manner that justified them in cutting your head off.)

As for Obama: His call on NATO allies to &quot;do more in Afghanistan&quot; is empty rhetoric, bereft of either carrots or sticks. It&#039;s less impressive than Michelle promising that Barack Obama won&#039;t let us Americans sink back into our easy lives, will demand more of us, etc. He&#039;ll use it domestically to back up a claim that he can be an effective world leader -- even though he&#039;s ignorant on such basics of 20th Century history as the success or failure, from an American point of view, of Kennedy&#039;s 1961 Vienna summit with Khrushchev, which actually led the world closer to nuclear annihilation than any other act of any American president. One could make a judgment of Barack Obama&#039;s fitness to be president solely by comparing his efforts to tour Europe as a rock star to his efforts to run the senatorial subcommittee on Europe that he chairs (but has never yet convened).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike P wrote, apparently with a straight face:</p>
<blockquote><p>However, if that big kid uses his massive power for good and uses it in a humble manner, in a manner that truly seeks equitable solutions for all, then you can see a different dynamic.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course, Dubya overturned the Taliban and Saddam Hussein to promote evil. Those were good, humble, enlightened regimes that truly sought equitable solutions for all.  (Unless you were a non-Muslim. Or a Shi'ite Muslim, for that matter. Or a woman. Or a westerner. Or a fan of democracy, liberty, and the rule of law. Or you smoked cigarettes. Or you looked at them cross-wise in just the particular manner that justified them in cutting your head off.)</p>
<p>As for Obama: His call on NATO allies to "do more in Afghanistan" is empty rhetoric, bereft of either carrots or sticks. It's less impressive than Michelle promising that Barack Obama won't let us Americans sink back into our easy lives, will demand more of us, etc. He'll use it domestically to back up a claim that he can be an effective world leader -- even though he's ignorant on such basics of 20th Century history as the success or failure, from an American point of view, of Kennedy's 1961 Vienna summit with Khrushchev, which actually led the world closer to nuclear annihilation than any other act of any American president. One could make a judgment of Barack Obama's fitness to be president solely by comparing his efforts to tour Europe as a rock star to his efforts to run the senatorial subcommittee on Europe that he chairs (but has never yet convened).</p>
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