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		<title>By: Pauly</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/family_values/comment-page-1/#comment-7451</link>
		<dc:creator>Pauly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well yeah he got re-elected. Did you see his &lt;i&gt;hair&lt;/i&gt;? To die for!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well yeah he got re-elected. Did you see his <i>hair</i>? To die for!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark-NC</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/family_values/comment-page-1/#comment-7452</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark-NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for the record - Clinton DID get his hair cut for $200 - the delaying of flights was a planted myth - didn&#039;t happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for the record - Clinton DID get his hair cut for $200 - the delaying of flights was a planted myth - didn't happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/family_values/comment-page-1/#comment-7453</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark-- I love smashing myths more than anyone... But I find this REAL hard to believe.

It was reported that night on all the major news channels. Clinton&#039;s strongest suit was having TEAMS of people attack the press and get his side of the story out. I&#039;ve never heard a single person say this.

Further, &lt;a href=&quot;http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=clinton+haircut&amp;sp-a=00062d45-sp00000000&amp;sp-advanced=1&amp;sp-p=all&amp;sp-w-control=1&amp;sp-w=alike&amp;sp-date-range=-1&amp;sp-x=any&amp;sp-c=100&amp;sp-m=1&amp;sp-s=0&quot;&gt;snopes knows nothing about it.&lt;/a&gt; (which actually solves it in my mind, she would never miss a story this big.)

I did a google search and found a few people claiming that but no documentation/ explanation how the myth got started. 

All in all you can find far more people believe we never went to the moon than believe this.

lemme know

Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark-- I love smashing myths more than anyone... But I find this REAL hard to believe.</p>
<p>It was reported that night on all the major news channels. Clinton's strongest suit was having TEAMS of people attack the press and get his side of the story out. I've never heard a single person say this.</p>
<p>Further, <a href="http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=clinton+haircut&#038;sp-a=00062d45-sp00000000&#038;sp-advanced=1&#038;sp-p=all&#038;sp-w-control=1&#038;sp-w=alike&#038;sp-date-range=-1&#038;sp-x=any&#038;sp-c=100&#038;sp-m=1&#038;sp-s=0">snopes knows nothing about it.</a> (which actually solves it in my mind, she would never miss a story this big.)</p>
<p>I did a google search and found a few people claiming that but no documentation/ explanation how the myth got started. </p>
<p>All in all you can find far more people believe we never went to the moon than believe this.</p>
<p>lemme know</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: melvin toast</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/family_values/comment-page-1/#comment-7454</link>
		<dc:creator>melvin toast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if he does or not but based on his exclusion of reference to children events, I would suspect that Brett doesn&#039;t have any.

I&#039;m not the kind of person who says that if you&#039;re not ready to fight you shouldn&#039;t be a proponent of war.  But if you don&#039;t have kids, you probably don&#039;t understand how important family values are.

If you don&#039;t have kids, you might not know what I&#039;m talking about.  If you DO have kids,  you know EXACTLY what I&#039;m talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't know if he does or not but based on his exclusion of reference to children events, I would suspect that Brett doesn't have any.</p>
<p>I'm not the kind of person who says that if you're not ready to fight you shouldn't be a proponent of war.  But if you don't have kids, you probably don't understand how important family values are.</p>
<p>If you don't have kids, you might not know what I'm talking about.  If you DO have kids,  you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t have kids, Melvin.  But I do know people in the army and the national guard who do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don't have kids, Melvin.  But I do know people in the army and the national guard who do.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark-NC</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/family_values/comment-page-1/#comment-7456</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark-NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul:

You&#039;re right - hard to find anything that doesn&#039;t claim that Clinton stalled major airline traffic in the &quot;liberal press&quot;

Here&#039;s one from the Atlanta Journal:  http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/tucker/2003/051103.html

Remember Bill Clinton&#039;s infamous haircut on board Air Force One?

In 1993, according to front-page headlines and blaring broadcast reports, Clinton shut down Los Angeles International Airport to get a trendy haircut from a celebrity stylist. Those reports, which turned out to be dead wrong, took on a life of their own because of alleged inconvenience to the passengers left circling in frustration.

Later news reports that put the episode in perspective -- there were no delays of scheduled commercial flights -- ended up on the back pages of newspapers or were mentioned briefly at the end of broadcast reports.

And here at ABC News.com: http://abcnews.go.com/onair/nightline/clintonyears/clinton/anecdotes/2.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul:</p>
<p>You're right - hard to find anything that doesn't claim that Clinton stalled major airline traffic in the "liberal press"</p>
<p>Here's one from the Atlanta Journal:  <a href="http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/tucker/2003/051103.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/tucker/2003/051103.html</a></p>
<p>Remember Bill Clinton's infamous haircut on board Air Force One?</p>
<p>In 1993, according to front-page headlines and blaring broadcast reports, Clinton shut down Los Angeles International Airport to get a trendy haircut from a celebrity stylist. Those reports, which turned out to be dead wrong, took on a life of their own because of alleged inconvenience to the passengers left circling in frustration.</p>
<p>Later news reports that put the episode in perspective -- there were no delays of scheduled commercial flights -- ended up on the back pages of newspapers or were mentioned briefly at the end of broadcast reports.</p>
<p>And here at ABC News.com: <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/onair/nightline/clintonyears/clinton/anecdotes/2.html" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/onair/nightline/clintonyears/clinton/anecdotes/2.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Director Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Director Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, why be President of the U.S.A. if you reschedule events around your priorities.  I mean, if the &quot;Buck Stops Here&quot;, that means that you set your priorities and people can adhere to your schedule, not the other way around.

While it was definitely a snafu in the scheduling office, I see no reason why the Leader of the Free World should have to adhere to some administrative screw-up.  Plus, it&#039;s not like NATO members have been exactly RESPONSIVE to U.S. requests, are looking to form their own little Chocolate Alliance, etc. Make &#039;em reschedule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, why be President of the U.S.A. if you reschedule events around your priorities.  I mean, if the "Buck Stops Here", that means that you set your priorities and people can adhere to your schedule, not the other way around.</p>
<p>While it was definitely a snafu in the scheduling office, I see no reason why the Leader of the Free World should have to adhere to some administrative screw-up.  Plus, it's not like NATO members have been exactly RESPONSIVE to U.S. requests, are looking to form their own little Chocolate Alliance, etc. Make 'em reschedule.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/family_values/comment-page-1/#comment-7458</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be frank Mark- and Maybe I am overly skeptical but the sources you named don&#039;t really tell the tale. 

The first is Robert B. Reich who never long for credibility to begin with and he was quite vague in his denial. The second was an opinion piece where she mentions it in passing but cites no evidence. (sorry I give her no more credibility than you)

I&#039;m not one to believe it just because I read it somewhere on the internet.

If you google &quot;clinton myth haircut lax&quot; you only get 45 results. I skimmed each of them and all I found was liberals pundits CLAIMING it was a myth.

*I found not a single mention of contemporaneous evidence.*

Surely if this really was a myth many of the myth/urban legend sites (snopes) would have picked it up. Certainly many more people than 45 would be talking about.

I think there is a myth here alright, and you are spreading it. 

Paul

BTW if you google &quot;moon landing hoax&quot; you get 17,000 hits.

and if you google. &quot;&quot;Bush knew about 9/11&quot;&quot; (in quotes) you get almost 700 hits. So 45 people claiming something to be true does not impress me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be frank Mark- and Maybe I am overly skeptical but the sources you named don't really tell the tale. </p>
<p>The first is Robert B. Reich who never long for credibility to begin with and he was quite vague in his denial. The second was an opinion piece where she mentions it in passing but cites no evidence. (sorry I give her no more credibility than you)</p>
<p>I'm not one to believe it just because I read it somewhere on the internet.</p>
<p>If you google "clinton myth haircut lax" you only get 45 results. I skimmed each of them and all I found was liberals pundits CLAIMING it was a myth.</p>
<p>*I found not a single mention of contemporaneous evidence.*</p>
<p>Surely if this really was a myth many of the myth/urban legend sites (snopes) would have picked it up. Certainly many more people than 45 would be talking about.</p>
<p>I think there is a myth here alright, and you are spreading it. </p>
<p>Paul</p>
<p>BTW if you google "moon landing hoax" you get 17,000 hits.</p>
<p>and if you google. ""Bush knew about 9/11"" (in quotes) you get almost 700 hits. So 45 people claiming something to be true does not impress me.</p>
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		<title>By: markus</title>
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		<dc:creator>markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks Paul, I really couldn&#039;t find the LAX-haircut debunked anywhere in the mainstream. 
Which seems odd to me, guess I&#039;ll assign it to the &quot;most probably true&quot; category until I&#039;ve had the chance to ask some proponents of the theory that it is a hoax for evidence. Thanks for the pointer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks Paul, I really couldn't find the LAX-haircut debunked anywhere in the mainstream.<br />
Which seems odd to me, guess I'll assign it to the "most probably true" category until I've had the chance to ask some proponents of the theory that it is a hoax for evidence. Thanks for the pointer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark-NC</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/family_values/comment-page-1/#comment-7460</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark-NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul:

My last post on this.

Too many of the &quot;Clinton scandals&quot; were 2% true and 98% fabrication.  This LAX thing is one of those.  Basic checking will prove the same for Kathleen Wiley (Ray thought about prosecuting her for lying), Flowers (amazing the stories you can buy for $150k in hard cash), Filegate (gardners and kitchen staff and secretaries - Oh my!)

Garbage like this LAX thing took wings because the press loves garbage that sells well - and Limbaugh, Hannity, and co. will back up anything of this sort.

I did a one minute search at The LA Times and found this:

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/results.html?num=25&amp;st=basic&amp;QryTxt=%22clinton+haircut%22&amp;sortby=RELEVANCE&amp;datetype=0&amp;x=27&amp;y=12

There are sixteen references to check - here is the synopsis of the first.

On July 1, there was a brief article inside The Times that says only one unscheduled air taxi flight was delayed by President Clinton&#039;s haircut on May 18.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul:</p>
<p>My last post on this.</p>
<p>Too many of the "Clinton scandals" were 2% true and 98% fabrication.  This LAX thing is one of those.  Basic checking will prove the same for Kathleen Wiley (Ray thought about prosecuting her for lying), Flowers (amazing the stories you can buy for $150k in hard cash), Filegate (gardners and kitchen staff and secretaries - Oh my!)</p>
<p>Garbage like this LAX thing took wings because the press loves garbage that sells well - and Limbaugh, Hannity, and co. will back up anything of this sort.</p>
<p>I did a one minute search at The LA Times and found this:</p>
<p><a href="http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/results.html?num=25&#038;st=basic&#038;QryTxt=%22clinton+haircut%22&#038;sortby=RELEVANCE&#038;datetype=0&#038;x=27&#038;y=12" rel="nofollow">http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/results.html?num=25&#038;st=basic&#038;QryTxt=%22clinton+haircut%22&#038;sortby=RELEVANCE&#038;datetype=0&#038;x=27&#038;y=12</a></p>
<p>There are sixteen references to check - here is the synopsis of the first.</p>
<p>On July 1, there was a brief article inside The Times that says only one unscheduled air taxi flight was delayed by President Clinton's haircut on May 18.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK Mark- 

If you truly think that Clinton was an angel and did nothing wrong vis a vis Kathleen Wiley, Jennifer Flowers, Filegate et al...

Than I can&#039;t help you... You are delusional and ignore reality..

Thank you for playing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Mark- </p>
<p>If you truly think that Clinton was an angel and did nothing wrong vis a vis Kathleen Wiley, Jennifer Flowers, Filegate et al...</p>
<p>Than I can't help you... You are delusional and ignore reality..</p>
<p>Thank you for playing.</p>
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		<title>By: PoliBlog</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/family_values/comment-page-1/#comment-7462</link>
		<dc:creator>PoliBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;To NATO or Not to NATO&lt;/strong&gt;
Bret is a bit hacked that the President wants a NATO conference to be rescheduled because of graduation dates in New Haven and Austin. James of OTB provides his take. Here&#039;s the WaPo story with the info at issue. I...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>To NATO or Not to NATO</strong><br />
Bret is a bit hacked that the President wants a NATO conference to be rescheduled because of graduation dates in New Haven and Austin. James of OTB provides his take. Here's the WaPo story with the info at issue. I...</p>
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