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		<title>By: mccannta</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/fema_to_reimburse_church_groups_for_hurricane_aid/comment-page-1/#comment-59116</link>
		<dc:creator>mccannta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;FEMA To Reimburse Religious Groups Assisting in Hurricane Relief&lt;/strong&gt;

The fearmongers, or their plausably deniable hatchet &#039;think-tank public policy&#039; groups are at it again in response to the government&#039;s latest decision regarding hurricane assistance. On Tuesday, the Washington Post reported that FEMA has decided to ...</description>
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<p>The fearmongers, or their plausably deniable hatchet 'think-tank public policy' groups are at it again in response to the government's latest decision regarding hurricane assistance. On Tuesday, the Washington Post reported that FEMA has decided to ...</p>
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		<title>By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/fema_to_reimburse_church_groups_for_hurricane_aid/comment-page-1/#comment-59103</link>
		<dc:creator>Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 09:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;FEMA plans to reimburse faith groups&lt;/strong&gt;

After weeks of prodding by Republican lawmakers and the American Red Cross, the Federal Emergency Ma</description>
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<p>After weeks of prodding by Republican lawmakers and the American Red Cross, the Federal Emergency Ma</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Sensing</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/fema_to_reimburse_church_groups_for_hurricane_aid/comment-page-1/#comment-59093</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Sensing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 03:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to a radio newscast I heard today, this reimbursement applies only to churches &lt;i&gt;that were asked by the state of local governments&lt;/i&gt; to perform as shelters or food kitchens. Hence, the churches that did so were acting literally as agents of the state and deserve reimbursement.

Furthermore, churches that so acted may reasonably be expected to have served hugely greater numbers of people because the govts. were sending them people. So my guess is that each church almost certainly did far more than it would have done on its own.

And last, even so, no church has to accept the money if it doesn&#039;t want to. This is a tempest in teapot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to a radio newscast I heard today, this reimbursement applies only to churches <i>that were asked by the state of local governments</i> to perform as shelters or food kitchens. Hence, the churches that did so were acting literally as agents of the state and deserve reimbursement.</p>
<p>Furthermore, churches that so acted may reasonably be expected to have served hugely greater numbers of people because the govts. were sending them people. So my guess is that each church almost certainly did far more than it would have done on its own.</p>
<p>And last, even so, no church has to accept the money if it doesn't want to. This is a tempest in teapot.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 21:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;And is it just me, or is this a completely astounding discussion to be having about a republican administration?&lt;/em&gt;

[exaggerated French accent]
Not any more.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>And is it just me, or is this a completely astounding discussion to be having about a republican administration?</em></p>
<p>[exaggerated French accent]<br />
Not any more.<br />
[/exaggerated French accent]</p>
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		<title>By: Just Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t say that I like this idea-I think there is a reason it is called charity and volunteers are called volunteers.

I did notice that Dr. Reccord from the SBC made it clear that our disaster relief organization will not be requesting funding from the US taxpayer.

A friend of ours works for the SBC disaster relief organization, and was down fixing meals for Katrina victims and relief workers.  He is back in NH now though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can't say that I like this idea-I think there is a reason it is called charity and volunteers are called volunteers.</p>
<p>I did notice that Dr. Reccord from the SBC made it clear that our disaster relief organization will not be requesting funding from the US taxpayer.</p>
<p>A friend of ours works for the SBC disaster relief organization, and was down fixing meals for Katrina victims and relief workers.  He is back in NH now though.</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
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		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, you hit the stickiness right on the head, and it all depends on exactly which groups are being reimbursed for exactly what... Even if they&#039;re just operating facilities &quot;at the request of the government&quot;, there will have to be a careful accounting by these organizations, and I&#039;m quite certain many them (the churches) have no capability of tracking their expenses that way - they&#039;ve never had to before.

Another issue I&#039;ve only seen limited discussion on is the potential long-term damage this precedent could do to religious and charitable donations in general... If the tab is going to be picked up by the fed (via tax dollars) anyway, why donate to anything?

And is it just me, or is this a completely _astounding_ discussion to be having about a _republican_ administration?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, you hit the stickiness right on the head, and it all depends on exactly which groups are being reimbursed for exactly what... Even if they're just operating facilities "at the request of the government", there will have to be a careful accounting by these organizations, and I'm quite certain many them (the churches) have no capability of tracking their expenses that way - they've never had to before.</p>
<p>Another issue I've only seen limited discussion on is the potential long-term damage this precedent could do to religious and charitable donations in general... If the tab is going to be picked up by the fed (via tax dollars) anyway, why donate to anything?</p>
<p>And is it just me, or is this a completely _astounding_ discussion to be having about a _republican_ administration?</p>
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		<title>By: dougrc`</title>
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		<dc:creator>dougrc`</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LJ - &quot;I wonder if all the atheist organizations that helped are going to be reimbursed with out taxpayer money too?&quot; ????

Uh, for example, who? Which athiest group opened their &quot;anti-church&quot; property to shelter the storm victims? There may have been a couple somewhere, but not in the hundreds like the faith-based groups did. 

Thank you, churches! None of them did it for re-imbursement; few of them tried to count the cost before saying yes.

By the way, do you think the &quot;Reverand&quot; Lynn ever considers &quot;What Would Jesus Do&quot;? 

Nah...I didn&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LJ - "I wonder if all the atheist organizations that helped are going to be reimbursed with out taxpayer money too?" ????</p>
<p>Uh, for example, who? Which athiest group opened their "anti-church" property to shelter the storm victims? There may have been a couple somewhere, but not in the hundreds like the faith-based groups did. </p>
<p>Thank you, churches! None of them did it for re-imbursement; few of them tried to count the cost before saying yes.</p>
<p>By the way, do you think the "Reverand" Lynn ever considers "What Would Jesus Do"? </p>
<p>Nah...I didn't think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 18:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Greedy reverends&quot;?  Come now.

Notice what the reimbursement applies to:  shelters, medical facilities.

Being provided in some cases by churches that may well be bankrupted already.

Read about the Lutheran church described, and tell me they&#039;re not entitled to the money if FEMA&#039;s handing it out.  (Disclosure:  I attend a Lutheran church in Jackson, MS, which has been relaying &amp; sending supplies to Christus Victor &amp; other churches, shelters, etc., &amp; have spent a little time out there helping unload/load trucks.  No check in the mail for me, I&#039;m sure.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Greedy reverends"?  Come now.</p>
<p>Notice what the reimbursement applies to:  shelters, medical facilities.</p>
<p>Being provided in some cases by churches that may well be bankrupted already.</p>
<p>Read about the Lutheran church described, and tell me they're not entitled to the money if FEMA's handing it out.  (Disclosure:  I attend a Lutheran church in Jackson, MS, which has been relaying &amp; sending supplies to Christus Victor &amp; other churches, shelters, etc., &amp; have spent a little time out there helping unload/load trucks.  No check in the mail for me, I'm sure.)</p>
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		<title>By: LJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 18:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again....

It makes no sense.

Any church that applies for this is defeating the basic principle of charity.

I hope all the greedy reverends and the people that follow them get thier due!

I wonder if all the atheist organizations that helped are going to be reimbursed with out taxpayer money too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again....</p>
<p>It makes no sense.</p>
<p>Any church that applies for this is defeating the basic principle of charity.</p>
<p>I hope all the greedy reverends and the people that follow them get thier due!</p>
<p>I wonder if all the atheist organizations that helped are going to be reimbursed with out taxpayer money too?</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, is it charity if the feds reimburse you?

Snark aside, so long as they&#039;re really compensating just for shelter-related expenses, etc., &lt;i&gt;just as they would with comparable private entities&lt;/i&gt;, then I think this is perfectly reasonable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, is it charity if the feds reimburse you?</p>
<p>Snark aside, so long as they're really compensating just for shelter-related expenses, etc., <i>just as they would with comparable private entities</i>, then I think this is perfectly reasonable.</p>
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