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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/fictional_politics/comment-page-1/#comment-104102</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t have Cinemax, so I couldn&#039;t watch the marathon, but I did see that the episodes were available in HD off On Demand.  I watched eps 3,4,5 in a row (maybe the best ones in ascending order).

My girlfriend thought I was crazy for watching these (though she already knows how fanatical I am about the show).  I had to then show her that there are people even more committed to Star Wars.  When I searched around for Star Wars fan videos, I came across some videos linked to this contest from Ziddio.

http://www.ziddio.com/contest.zd?dispatch=landing&amp;contest=2

They&#039;ll probably have tons of crazy submissions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn't have Cinemax, so I couldn't watch the marathon, but I did see that the episodes were available in HD off On Demand.  I watched eps 3,4,5 in a row (maybe the best ones in ascending order).</p>
<p>My girlfriend thought I was crazy for watching these (though she already knows how fanatical I am about the show).  I had to then show her that there are people even more committed to Star Wars.  When I searched around for Star Wars fan videos, I came across some videos linked to this contest from Ziddio.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ziddio.com/contest.zd?dispatch=landing&amp;contest=2" rel="nofollow">http://www.ziddio.com/contest.zd?dispatch=landing&amp;contest=2</a></p>
<p>They'll probably have tons of crazy submissions.</p>
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		<title>By: ech</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/fictional_politics/comment-page-1/#comment-103899</link>
		<dc:creator>ech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good takedown of the entire Jedi is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/1999/06/15/brin_main/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; by sf writer David Brin.&lt;/a&gt; He argues that Lucas is a fan of sel-selected elitists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good takedown of the entire Jedi is <a href="http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/1999/06/15/brin_main/" rel="nofollow"> by sf writer David Brin.</a> He argues that Lucas is a fan of sel-selected elitists.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/fictional_politics/comment-page-1/#comment-103897</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add that one to the list.

Indeed, a lot of I-III were simply making sure that all the parts were where they were supposed to be for IV-VI, logic be darned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add that one to the list.</p>
<p>Indeed, a lot of I-III were simply making sure that all the parts were where they were supposed to be for IV-VI, logic be darned.</p>
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		<title>By: The Unabrewer</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/fictional_politics/comment-page-1/#comment-103878</link>
		<dc:creator>The Unabrewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 07:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You missed another stupid tactical move:  rather than Yoda and Obi-Wan teaming up to take out Sidious and Vader, they split up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You missed another stupid tactical move:  rather than Yoda and Obi-Wan teaming up to take out Sidious and Vader, they split up.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Why did it take &lt;strong&gt;18 years&lt;/strong&gt; between III and IV for the Death Star to be operational, yet they had a &lt;strong&gt;new one almost finished by VI &lt;/strong&gt;after the one in IV was nuked?&lt;/em&gt;

Because once the Imperial Senate was dissolved in IV, the labor unions went shortly thereafter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Why did it take <strong>18 years</strong> between III and IV for the Death Star to be operational, yet they had a <strong>new one almost finished by VI </strong>after the one in IV was nuked?</em></p>
<p>Because once the Imperial Senate was dissolved in IV, the labor unions went shortly thereafter?</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 21:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point about Old Obi-wan.

Time was screwed up in general.  Why did it take 18 years between III and IV for the Death Star to be operational, yet they had a new one almost finished by VI after the one in IV was nuked?

Maybe it was already under construction, but they still seemed able to take up to operational in a hurry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point about Old Obi-wan.</p>
<p>Time was screwed up in general.  Why did it take 18 years between III and IV for the Death Star to be operational, yet they had a new one almost finished by VI after the one in IV was nuked?</p>
<p>Maybe it was already under construction, but they still seemed able to take up to operational in a hurry.</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 21:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think that he ignored that part for a mere plot point that would allow Anakin to have a “forbidden” love affair.&lt;/i&gt;

I agree, although there were other ways to create the &quot;forbidden&quot; love affair without resorting to a prohibition on Jedi getting married.

As a mom I also admit that I can&#039;t imagine just turning my kid over to some guys with lightsabers, because they said he had a high level of some midi things in his blood.  Nope as a mom, I am keeping my baby and Jedi be damned.

&lt;i&gt;Additionally, in IV and V the Force is more mystical, and then in I it is about some things living in your bloodstream. &lt;/i&gt;

I liked it better when it was more mystical-and I can&#039;t help but think some mad scientist somewhere didnt take it upon himself to try to develop synthetic midi whatevers to make a sort of Jedu vaccine.  Once again I think there were ways for the Jedi to figure out the kid had the force without the blood test.

Basically-Lucas a movie technology guru really needed a good screen writer-especially so he could make the cannon consistent.

And while we are at it, Obi-Wan seemed older in the first trilogy than he would have been if you just aged him from the end of the last prequel.  Maybe Lucas can blame it on hermit style desert living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think that he ignored that part for a mere plot point that would allow Anakin to have a “forbidden” love affair.</i></p>
<p>I agree, although there were other ways to create the "forbidden" love affair without resorting to a prohibition on Jedi getting married.</p>
<p>As a mom I also admit that I can't imagine just turning my kid over to some guys with lightsabers, because they said he had a high level of some midi things in his blood.  Nope as a mom, I am keeping my baby and Jedi be damned.</p>
<p><i>Additionally, in IV and V the Force is more mystical, and then in I it is about some things living in your bloodstream. </i></p>
<p>I liked it better when it was more mystical-and I can't help but think some mad scientist somewhere didnt take it upon himself to try to develop synthetic midi whatevers to make a sort of Jedu vaccine.  Once again I think there were ways for the Jedi to figure out the kid had the force without the blood test.</p>
<p>Basically-Lucas a movie technology guru really needed a good screen writer-especially so he could make the cannon consistent.</p>
<p>And while we are at it, Obi-Wan seemed older in the first trilogy than he would have been if you just aged him from the end of the last prequel.  Maybe Lucas can blame it on hermit style desert living.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 21:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even worse, he didn&#039;t think through his own mythology very well.

For example, if the &quot;Force is strong in families&quot; yet Jedi are not allowed to marry, doesn&#039;t that create a problem for easily finding more Jedi?  

I think that he ignored that part for a mere plot point that would allow Anakin to have a &quot;forbidden&quot; love affair.

Additionally, in IV and V the Force is more mystical, and then in I it is about some things living in your bloodstream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even worse, he didn't think through his own mythology very well.</p>
<p>For example, if the "Force is strong in families" yet Jedi are not allowed to marry, doesn't that create a problem for easily finding more Jedi?  </p>
<p>I think that he ignored that part for a mere plot point that would allow Anakin to have a "forbidden" love affair.</p>
<p>Additionally, in IV and V the Force is more mystical, and then in I it is about some things living in your bloodstream.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent G. Budge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent G. Budge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 20:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the fundamental problem, aside from sheer directorial and screenwriting inadequacy, is that Lucas decided to create a mythology from whole cloth.  He appears to have very superficially examined existing mythology and then gone off on completely bizarre tangents at odds with whatever psychological archetypes underlie real mythology.*

Whereas Tolkien (for example) was thoroughly steeped in real mythologies and was true to the archetypes in his retelling of The Great Story.

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*Yes, I&#039;m aware of the seeming oxymoron.  If you don&#039;t get what I mean, I probably can&#039;t explain it to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the fundamental problem, aside from sheer directorial and screenwriting inadequacy, is that Lucas decided to create a mythology from whole cloth.  He appears to have very superficially examined existing mythology and then gone off on completely bizarre tangents at odds with whatever psychological archetypes underlie real mythology.*</p>
<p>Whereas Tolkien (for example) was thoroughly steeped in real mythologies and was true to the archetypes in his retelling of The Great Story.</p>
<p>------------------------------------------------<br />
*Yes, I'm aware of the seeming oxymoron.  If you don't get what I mean, I probably can't explain it to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup.</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that Anakin&#039;s reason for going to the dark side was dumb.

And it isn&#039;t so much that Lucas is a bad director, he is a crappy screenplay writer.  I sometimes think Lucas would have done better with the prequels to have just outlined his ideas and had a real screenwriter or two go to town.

I know Empire-which is still my favorite of the 6 was directed by somebody other than Lucas, and it showed.  I also think Lucas overly relied on computer graphics, sometimes it is nice to see stuff that is real, and not a computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Anakin's reason for going to the dark side was dumb.</p>
<p>And it isn't so much that Lucas is a bad director, he is a crappy screenplay writer.  I sometimes think Lucas would have done better with the prequels to have just outlined his ideas and had a real screenwriter or two go to town.</p>
<p>I know Empire-which is still my favorite of the 6 was directed by somebody other than Lucas, and it showed.  I also think Lucas overly relied on computer graphics, sometimes it is nice to see stuff that is real, and not a computer.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack:

Yup.

It would have been far more interesting for Anakin to have been an adult (and an impressive pilot, as Obi-wan describes him in IV).

Further, it would have been interesting for the first movies to have started in the middle of Clone Wars with the Jedi seeking new recruits to help them out, hence the recruitment of Anakin.  

Indeed, I would have preferred that the Sith have been an entire anti-Jedi sect and had that been the nexus of the Clone Wars with the war ending in both sides being essentially destroyed, leaving only Yoda, Obi-Wan, Vader and Sidious as wounded remnants of that war, rather than having Yoda essentially conceding defeat after one fight.

And instead of the Clones being a bunch of Jango Fett&#039;s it would have been far cooler for the Sith to have been trying to clone their own Dark Side enabled clones as a means of taking over the Republic.

And there has to be a better reason for Anakin to go to the Dark Side aside from the fact that he was a brooding sort who wanted to save his wife from a bad pregnancy.

I was hoping for a true seduction by power--perhas he thought that he could control the Dark Side and use it to defeat the Sith, yep found that such led to his losing his soul to that power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack:</p>
<p>Yup.</p>
<p>It would have been far more interesting for Anakin to have been an adult (and an impressive pilot, as Obi-wan describes him in IV).</p>
<p>Further, it would have been interesting for the first movies to have started in the middle of Clone Wars with the Jedi seeking new recruits to help them out, hence the recruitment of Anakin.  </p>
<p>Indeed, I would have preferred that the Sith have been an entire anti-Jedi sect and had that been the nexus of the Clone Wars with the war ending in both sides being essentially destroyed, leaving only Yoda, Obi-Wan, Vader and Sidious as wounded remnants of that war, rather than having Yoda essentially conceding defeat after one fight.</p>
<p>And instead of the Clones being a bunch of Jango Fett's it would have been far cooler for the Sith to have been trying to clone their own Dark Side enabled clones as a means of taking over the Republic.</p>
<p>And there has to be a better reason for Anakin to go to the Dark Side aside from the fact that he was a brooding sort who wanted to save his wife from a bad pregnancy.</p>
<p>I was hoping for a true seduction by power--perhas he thought that he could control the Dark Side and use it to defeat the Sith, yep found that such led to his losing his soul to that power.</p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 17:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anderson, not if you &lt;i&gt;slingshot it around a blackhole.&lt;/i&gt;  Or something like that.

Does anyone else think that Anakin should have really been a navigator on a spice freighter, sort of like Uncle Owen said in the original?  I mean, if the prequels had started with him working on a spice freighter, first of all we get some interesting footage of flying the Kessel Run (with black holes and all, plus the nerdly debates that follow), plus he doesn&#039;t have to be a 9-year-old wooing a &quot;14&quot;-year-old.  

And a trade blockade of some backwater demonocracy (democracy + monarchy) seems like a stupid premise to start with, considering you need to end up with galactic civil war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anderson, not if you <i>slingshot it around a blackhole.</i>  Or something like that.</p>
<p>Does anyone else think that Anakin should have really been a navigator on a spice freighter, sort of like Uncle Owen said in the original?  I mean, if the prequels had started with him working on a spice freighter, first of all we get some interesting footage of flying the Kessel Run (with black holes and all, plus the nerdly debates that follow), plus he doesn't have to be a 9-year-old wooing a "14"-year-old.  </p>
<p>And a trade blockade of some backwater demonocracy (democracy + monarchy) seems like a stupid premise to start with, considering you need to end up with galactic civil war.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 16:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;heck, even today here on earth most battles are conducted over the horizon.&lt;/em&gt;

You can arc a ballistic projectile in gravity, but I&#039;m not sure how you do that with a laser bolt, which, however little we know about it, would seem to be a straight-line kinda thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>heck, even today here on earth most battles are conducted over the horizon.</em></p>
<p>You can arc a ballistic projectile in gravity, but I'm not sure how you do that with a laser bolt, which, however little we know about it, would seem to be a straight-line kinda thing.</p>
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		<title>By: C.E. Petit</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.E. Petit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lemmas:
* The approximate number of fully utilized brain cells in a humanoid will remain constant, with only minor variation, within that species.
* Because The Force is directed by the intellect, it resides in the frontal lobes (or equivalent).
* Brain cells may be devoted to either The Force or The Intellect. That is, brain cells are specialized.

Conclusion:
* Increased ability with The Force inherently results in decreased ability with The Intellect.
* With the exception of one of the six films, the scriptwriters were &quot;strong with The Force.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lemmas:<br />
* The approximate number of fully utilized brain cells in a humanoid will remain constant, with only minor variation, within that species.<br />
* Because The Force is directed by the intellect, it resides in the frontal lobes (or equivalent).<br />
* Brain cells may be devoted to either The Force or The Intellect. That is, brain cells are specialized.</p>
<p>Conclusion:<br />
* Increased ability with The Force inherently results in decreased ability with The Intellect.<br />
* With the exception of one of the six films, the scriptwriters were "strong with The Force."</p>
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