Comments on: Florida and Michigan Do-Overs

By: Bandit

Bandit — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:41:28 +0000

It's almost inconceivable that HRC wants to change the rules now that she's losing.

By: just me

just me — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:20:45 +0000

I kind of agree with Dave though-how is arranging for a revote not a violation of the rules either?

In the end, can we agree that the GOP dealt with their rebellious states a little more smartly. They didn't take all the delegates away, thus making the vote totally meaningless, and it makes the argument to seat all of the delegates stronger.

I think the states and the DNC screwed up big time on this one, and I find it ironic that two states that wanted to count, and moved their primaries would have counted this year no matter what.

By: floyd

floyd — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:36:10 +0000

Pug;
No they aren't, most of them have allowed themselves to become the absolute property of the Democrat Party

By: rodney dill

rodney dill — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:13:01 +0000

Yay! I might get to vote for NOT Hillary again...
No Experience trumps Faux Experience.

By: PD Shaw

PD Shaw — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:58:24 +0000

"Howard Dean has, rightly, said that the DNC is not going to pay to run these elections; after all, the states violated the rules with full knowledge that they were doing so."

I don't know if I agree with this at least as to Florida. There are three groups here: the DNC, the Florida democratic party and the State of Florida. The State violated the rules, but its the national and state parties that are being harmed. Perhaps the State has a moral obligation to remedy the situation, but I am aware of no legal obligation and I can see why Republican and Independent voters would see better uses for the money.

As far as rules are rules; well rules have penalties and consequences, and these should be proportionate to the violation. The consequences here are hurting the party nationally and in Florida, so I think both should work together to get Florida seated and that includes putting up any money.

By: Marc

Marc — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:26:58 +0000

My goodness, both sides say they are not going to vote for the other side if he/she becomes the nominee. That's why a HCR/BHO ticket is the only thing that is going to save the Democratic Party.

On another subject: I found this on the Internet a few days ago (I don't know where now, but I copies and pasted it) Can anyone tell me if this is going anywhere?------------

The pressure on the DNC and state party intensified in Florida on Wednesday.

State Sen. Nan Rich, D-Sunrise, suggested the legislature consider keeping the nominee's name off the November ballot unless the party welcomes Florida delegates at the convention.

Senate Democratic Leader Steve Geller said a bill was "being seriously discussed." Senate Elections Committee Chairman Lee Constantine, R-Altamonte Springs, said he would welcome such a proposal if it had bipartisan support.

By: Pug

Pug — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:54:54 +0000

Hillary better hope she can win without the support of African American voters because they are gone if she's the nominee.

By: Anon

Anon — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:24:37 +0000

Jeralyn seems to be convenient ignoring the "or participate" part of the pledge. The way she constantly and conveniently omits this seems quite blatant and obvious, and greatly weakens her position.

By: Dave Schuler

Dave Schuler — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:22:39 +0000

Do the ex ante rules allow for a re-vote?

Why is allowing a mulligan just? Under what conditions would it be just? Would do-overs be just in other states?