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	<title>Comments on: Chas Freeman Withdraws (Updated)</title>
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		<title>By: Derrick brooks</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/freeman_withdraws/comment-page-1/#comment-995755</link>
		<dc:creator>Derrick brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Derrick brooks...&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: davod</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/freeman_withdraws/comment-page-1/#comment-990042</link>
		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read today of 23 left wing organizations who talk every morning to coordinate their activities.

Was the &quot;coordinated&quot; attack against Freeman in this league.

What is telling about this episode is that few, if any, bothered to defend Freeman until it was to late.

I did read somewhere that the MSM reporting of the possible appointment was negligible.

If the media had done some reporting earlier then maybe Ambassador Freeman&#039;s generous record of service and his colleagues praises would have been before the public in advance of the opposition to his appointment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read today of 23 left wing organizations who talk every morning to coordinate their activities.</p>
<p>Was the "coordinated" attack against Freeman in this league.</p>
<p>What is telling about this episode is that few, if any, bothered to defend Freeman until it was to late.</p>
<p>I did read somewhere that the MSM reporting of the possible appointment was negligible.</p>
<p>If the media had done some reporting earlier then maybe Ambassador Freeman's generous record of service and his colleagues praises would have been before the public in advance of the opposition to his appointment.</p>
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		<title>By: Our Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/freeman_withdraws/comment-page-1/#comment-989983</link>
		<dc:creator>Our Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My thanks to PD Shaw for pointing out that the appointment of “Chas” Freeman to head the National Intelligence Council was a staff appointment and that confirmation by the Senate is not required. That is why the concerted attack by the Neocon establishment, and the hard right elements in the GOP is so telling.

That his intellect is recognized as being powerful and open is &lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123621499240635319.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recognized by his colleagues&lt;/a&gt;. Of course if you are a firm believer that Israel can build walls on Palestine land, blockade Gaza and starve the population into some type of submission, seed Lebanon with cluster bombs, and decimate the infrastructure of Gaza, a guy like Mr. Freeman might well prove to be very dangerous.

Neither Dave Schuler, nor James Joiner, point out that this attack on Mr. Freeman came shortly after the Clinton visit to Israel. Perhaps the Israeli hard right did not particularly like the message she delivered. A plausible postulate, if we can believe an indicted &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-03-10/obamarsquos-mideast-policy-smackdown&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Israeli spy &lt;/a&gt;coordinated the attack on Mr. Freeman.

Nice to see that character assassination is still in vogue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thanks to PD Shaw for pointing out that the appointment of “Chas” Freeman to head the National Intelligence Council was a staff appointment and that confirmation by the Senate is not required. That is why the concerted attack by the Neocon establishment, and the hard right elements in the GOP is so telling.</p>
<p>That his intellect is recognized as being powerful and open is <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123621499240635319.html" rel="nofollow">recognized by his colleagues</a>. Of course if you are a firm believer that Israel can build walls on Palestine land, blockade Gaza and starve the population into some type of submission, seed Lebanon with cluster bombs, and decimate the infrastructure of Gaza, a guy like Mr. Freeman might well prove to be very dangerous.</p>
<p>Neither Dave Schuler, nor James Joiner, point out that this attack on Mr. Freeman came shortly after the Clinton visit to Israel. Perhaps the Israeli hard right did not particularly like the message she delivered. A plausible postulate, if we can believe an indicted <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-03-10/obamarsquos-mideast-policy-smackdown" rel="nofollow">Israeli spy </a>coordinated the attack on Mr. Freeman.</p>
<p>Nice to see that character assassination is still in vogue.</p>
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		<title>By: PD Shaw</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/freeman_withdraws/comment-page-1/#comment-989938</link>
		<dc:creator>PD Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Strikes me that the good Admiral should be able to pick his men without political interference…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

His appointment must be ratified by Congress, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Strikes me that the good Admiral should be able to pick his men without political interference…</p></blockquote>
<p>His appointment must be ratified by Congress, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;First, most if not all of the discussion of the Freeman nomination took place within the blogosphere.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The point Saint Andrew misses in that is of course the reason behind it...that the Dnosaurs rfused to cover the story because they&#039;re still in the tank for all thongs Obama. Hard as hell to be a cheering section fro this white house and all things liberal when their  apponntees keep melting down like cheap candles.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Freeman is a strong believer in the unequaled power of the &#039;Israeli Lobby&#039; in DC. That, and his e-mail on Tienanmen, are what got him crosswise and int he crosshairs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Deservedly so, I think.
&lt;blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t consider his leaving with the least bit of sadness. I do object, however, to the now accepted implication that if you work for a think-tank that gets money from a foreign government (in this case, the Saudis), you have been bought. Regional think-tanks have to depend on deep pockets within the regions for the most part, the same way that area studies programs in universities must. It&#039;s a similar argument used to discredit scientific studies because an industry may have funded part of the research or even the university behind the research.

That is very scary.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s not so much that he was getting money from a foreign source... but &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;which&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. Given his oft stated anti-Israeli views it is clear which way that was headed.

Let&#039;s see, here. Britain, Israel... and a few others along the way... it&#039;s enough to make one wonder if this administation isn&#039;t about alienating us from  &lt;strong&gt;all&lt;/strong&gt; our freinds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>First, most if not all of the discussion of the Freeman nomination took place within the blogosphere.</p></blockquote>
<p>The point Saint Andrew misses in that is of course the reason behind it...that the Dnosaurs rfused to cover the story because they're still in the tank for all thongs Obama. Hard as hell to be a cheering section fro this white house and all things liberal when their  apponntees keep melting down like cheap candles.</p>
<blockquote><p>Freeman is a strong believer in the unequaled power of the 'Israeli Lobby' in DC. That, and his e-mail on Tienanmen, are what got him crosswise and int he crosshairs.</p></blockquote>
<p>Deservedly so, I think.</p>
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<p>I don't consider his leaving with the least bit of sadness. I do object, however, to the now accepted implication that if you work for a think-tank that gets money from a foreign government (in this case, the Saudis), you have been bought. Regional think-tanks have to depend on deep pockets within the regions for the most part, the same way that area studies programs in universities must. It's a similar argument used to discredit scientific studies because an industry may have funded part of the research or even the university behind the research.</p>
<p>That is very scary.</p></blockquote>
<p>It's not so much that he was getting money from a foreign source... but <strong><em>which</em></strong>. Given his oft stated anti-Israeli views it is clear which way that was headed.</p>
<p>Let's see, here. Britain, Israel... and a few others along the way... it's enough to make one wonder if this administation isn't about alienating us from  <strong>all</strong> our freinds.</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our Paul, how many nations would like to see Israel erased?  Paul, concerning Israeli plans to bomb Iran.  Would you think it wise to Iran to threaten Israel with elimination?  Paul, how many times would your neighbor have to threaten you and your family before your would do something about it?  How many members of your family would your neighbor have to kill before you struck back?  If you were fighting for our survival, which weapon is it you would not use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our Paul, how many nations would like to see Israel erased?  Paul, concerning Israeli plans to bomb Iran.  Would you think it wise to Iran to threaten Israel with elimination?  Paul, how many times would your neighbor have to threaten you and your family before your would do something about it?  How many members of your family would your neighbor have to kill before you struck back?  If you were fighting for our survival, which weapon is it you would not use?</p>
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		<title>By: Our Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Our Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 07:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not know much about “Chas” Freeman, except he was chosen by Admiral Blair to do a job. Strikes me that the good Admiral should be able to pick his men without political interference…

Know a tad bit more about Israel, more than what I know about “Chas” Freeman. I know that newspaper accounts report that they really wished to bomb Iran, but that the Bush Administration prevented that folly. Even the Bush Administration was able to realize that flying American planes with the Israeli insignias, and dropping American made bombs on nuclear facilities on a mid-East country was maybe not the smartest thing to do…

Do not know much about “Chas” Freeman other than he was a voice that opposed the carnage that Israel periodically delivers against its neighbors. What was worse during the most recent Lebanon incursion, the massive bombing of civilian targets, or the wanton shelling during the last two to three days of the boarder area with cluster bombs? &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Don’t know much about “Chas” Freeman, but I do know that the cluster bombs used against civilians in Lebanon were manufactured in the United States – and that the Israeli stockpile of this dreaded weapon has been replenished by the U.S. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Turns out I know a tad bit more about Israel, really more than I know about “Chas” Freeman. For example, I know that despite most civilized nations ban the use of phosphorous incendiary ammunitions in civilian areas, the Israeli’s used such shells liberally in their recent Gaza incursion.

Just happen to know a tad bit about the Israeli health care system. It is a single payer, government supported “freebee” to all Israeli citizens which in the U.S. (gasp, groan) would be labeled socialized medicine. And how much of our 4 billion dollars in yearly aid to Israel goes to health care, or for buying up Palestinian property remains unknown,

Do not know much about “Chas” Freeman, but he strikes me as the kind of guy who just might say that using U.S. built Apache Helicopters, with Israeli insignias, to destroy Gaza, may not be what we should encourage.

Do not know much about “Chas Freeman”, but judging from the people who forced his resignation before he spent a day on the job, he must have been a very dangerous man.

I quite agree. The question is whether he is dangerous to the Israelis, or to the United States.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B6KewvrAaQ&amp;feature=related&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dona nobis pacem&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not know much about “Chas” Freeman, except he was chosen by Admiral Blair to do a job. Strikes me that the good Admiral should be able to pick his men without political interference…</p>
<p>Know a tad bit more about Israel, more than what I know about “Chas” Freeman. I know that newspaper accounts report that they really wished to bomb Iran, but that the Bush Administration prevented that folly. Even the Bush Administration was able to realize that flying American planes with the Israeli insignias, and dropping American made bombs on nuclear facilities on a mid-East country was maybe not the smartest thing to do…</p>
<p>Do not know much about “Chas” Freeman other than he was a voice that opposed the carnage that Israel periodically delivers against its neighbors. What was worse during the most recent Lebanon incursion, the massive bombing of civilian targets, or the wanton shelling during the last two to three days of the boarder area with cluster bombs?<br />
<blockquote><em>Don&rsquo;t know much about “Chas” Freeman, but I do know that the cluster bombs used against civilians in Lebanon were manufactured in the United States – and that the Israeli stockpile of this dreaded weapon has been replenished by the U.S. </em></p></blockquote>
<p>Turns out I know a tad bit more about Israel, really more than I know about “Chas” Freeman. For example, I know that despite most civilized nations ban the use of phosphorous incendiary ammunitions in civilian areas, the Israeli&rsquo;s used such shells liberally in their recent Gaza incursion.</p>
<p>Just happen to know a tad bit about the Israeli health care system. It is a single payer, government supported “freebee” to all Israeli citizens which in the U.S. (gasp, groan) would be labeled socialized medicine. And how much of our 4 billion dollars in yearly aid to Israel goes to health care, or for buying up Palestinian property remains unknown,</p>
<p>Do not know much about “Chas” Freeman, but he strikes me as the kind of guy who just might say that using U.S. built Apache Helicopters, with Israeli insignias, to destroy Gaza, may not be what we should encourage.</p>
<p>Do not know much about “Chas Freeman”, but judging from the people who forced his resignation before he spent a day on the job, he must have been a very dangerous man.</p>
<p>I quite agree. The question is whether he is dangerous to the Israelis, or to the United States.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B6KewvrAaQ&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">Dona nobis pacem</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Burgess</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can find Freeman&#039;s statement on withdrawing at this link to &lt;a href=&quot;http://xrdarabia.org/2009/03/10/freeman-withdraws-from-national-intelligence-council/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Crossroads Arabia&lt;/a&gt;.

Freeman is a strong believer in the unequaled power of the &#039;Israeli Lobby&#039; in DC. That, and his e-mail on Tienanmen, are what got him crosswise and int he crosshairs.

I don&#039;t consider his leaving with the least bit of sadness. I do object, however, to the now accepted implication that if you work for a think-tank that gets money from a foreign government (in this case, the Saudis), you have been bought. Regional think-tanks have to depend on deep pockets within the regions for the most part, the same way that area studies programs in universities must. It&#039;s a similar argument used to discredit scientific studies because an industry may have funded part of the research or even the university behind the research.

That is very scary.

Note, please, that while I write about Saudi Arabia, I receive no money from any Saudi source. I&#039;m afraid that if I did, what I write would be thrown into the same maelstrom of conspiracy thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can find Freeman's statement on withdrawing at this link to <a href="http://xrdarabia.org/2009/03/10/freeman-withdraws-from-national-intelligence-council/" rel="nofollow">Crossroads Arabia</a>.</p>
<p>Freeman is a strong believer in the unequaled power of the 'Israeli Lobby' in DC. That, and his e-mail on Tienanmen, are what got him crosswise and int he crosshairs.</p>
<p>I don't consider his leaving with the least bit of sadness. I do object, however, to the now accepted implication that if you work for a think-tank that gets money from a foreign government (in this case, the Saudis), you have been bought. Regional think-tanks have to depend on deep pockets within the regions for the most part, the same way that area studies programs in universities must. It's a similar argument used to discredit scientific studies because an industry may have funded part of the research or even the university behind the research.</p>
<p>That is very scary.</p>
<p>Note, please, that while I write about Saudi Arabia, I receive no money from any Saudi source. I'm afraid that if I did, what I write would be thrown into the same maelstrom of conspiracy thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: PD Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>PD Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I note that Mark Kirk was mentioned in one of the recent posts here as a Republican Congressman elected in a Democratic District (one which voted for both Obama and Kerry).  I don&#039;t live in the district, but I met him briefly once and he struck me as a straight-shooter.  Nevertheless if this is an over-the-top partisan attack, then the seat is vulnerable perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note that Mark Kirk was mentioned in one of the recent posts here as a Republican Congressman elected in a Democratic District (one which voted for both Obama and Kerry).  I don't live in the district, but I met him briefly once and he struck me as a straight-shooter.  Nevertheless if this is an over-the-top partisan attack, then the seat is vulnerable perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: Eneils Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eneils Bailey</dc:creator>
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		<description>All you have to do is perform a criminal history check ...</description>
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