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		<title>By: Sabrina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 22:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete,

I suppose you vote for the Front National...

I live in France too. And I can tell riots are not religious. There are very much non-muslims in these riots.

I know the projects. I know many people living in projects in Paris area and other towns. My grand-parents live in a project. I know how life is when you live there. Even if you&#039;re white it&#039;s hard to find a job because when the boss read your adress he say &quot;we already found somebody&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete,</p>
<p>I suppose you vote for the Front National...</p>
<p>I live in France too. And I can tell riots are not religious. There are very much non-muslims in these riots.</p>
<p>I know the projects. I know many people living in projects in Paris area and other towns. My grand-parents live in a project. I know how life is when you live there. Even if you're white it's hard to find a job because when the boss read your adress he say "we already found somebody".</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 05:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys,
That so called &quot;french guy&quot; could be part of the government, we are under-control in france I know muslims i live in marseilles...

They have been throwing rocks at our minister Sarkozy, burning cars, churches,hospitals, shooting at cops and have killed 2 people so far(originally french).
allah ouarbach has been heard here and there.

They don&#039;t want only a job, they want everything
ie being a superstar, a soccer player, you name it.

I wanted to buy some bullets for my hunting rifle
just in case someone was to mess with my car or my home but guess what you can&#039;t buy any ammo in france anylonger pretty similar to African law...

The goverment doesn&#039;t protect its people and you can&#039;t even protect yourself.

Positive discrimination is announced openly as its first goal by the french government .
The poor rejected muslims are winning
no matter diploma, skills or attitude if they don&#039;t get hired they&#039;ll blame it on islamophobia.
(no one will talk to you after that suspiscion)

one last thing, you probably know that education is free in france, but the french government even sponsors willing north africans students coming from abroad for they scholarship so they can become engeneers or doctors....to show that our third generation immigrants can make it.

Can the govemnent lie all the time to all the people</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys,<br />
That so called "french guy" could be part of the government, we are under-control in france I know muslims i live in marseilles...</p>
<p>They have been throwing rocks at our minister Sarkozy, burning cars, churches,hospitals, shooting at cops and have killed 2 people so far(originally french).<br />
allah ouarbach has been heard here and there.</p>
<p>They don't want only a job, they want everything<br />
ie being a superstar, a soccer player, you name it.</p>
<p>I wanted to buy some bullets for my hunting rifle<br />
just in case someone was to mess with my car or my home but guess what you can't buy any ammo in france anylonger pretty similar to African law...</p>
<p>The goverment doesn't protect its people and you can't even protect yourself.</p>
<p>Positive discrimination is announced openly as its first goal by the french government .<br />
The poor rejected muslims are winning<br />
no matter diploma, skills or attitude if they don't get hired they'll blame it on islamophobia.<br />
(no one will talk to you after that suspiscion)</p>
<p>one last thing, you probably know that education is free in france, but the french government even sponsors willing north africans students coming from abroad for they scholarship so they can become engeneers or doctors....to show that our third generation immigrants can make it.</p>
<p>Can the govemnent lie all the time to all the people</p>
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		<title>By: FrenchGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrenchGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but I can&#039;t let this beeing said.
I am French, and I live in one of those towns you&#039;re talkin&#039; about...exept you don&#039;t even have an idea of what&#039;s going on around here.
Considering those riots as an immigrant/muslim movement is a great mistake! 
Those riots (it&#039;s right) are mostly leaded by third generation immigrants, but with absolutely no religious matters. 
This is a social movement!
Those immigrants were BROUGHT to France to help reconstructing the country after WW2, and France used them as workers as long as they needed them, then just let them rot in thoses mass-poverty subburbs. So now they want to be considered with equal rights and equal employment (that&#039;s obviously not the case).
I&#039;m not one of them, but I do understand why they are so pissed off, and even if I don&#039;t like the way they are trying to be express themselves (burning stuff is not the right solution...they will only get more police control, that&#039;s what they always get for trying to get heard)
They are just out of patience, poor and seeking for those &quot;liberte, egalite, fraternite&quot; we promised them but never gave them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I can't let this beeing said.<br />
I am French, and I live in one of those towns you're talkin' about...exept you don't even have an idea of what's going on around here.<br />
Considering those riots as an immigrant/muslim movement is a great mistake!<br />
Those riots (it's right) are mostly leaded by third generation immigrants, but with absolutely no religious matters.<br />
This is a social movement!<br />
Those immigrants were BROUGHT to France to help reconstructing the country after WW2, and France used them as workers as long as they needed them, then just let them rot in thoses mass-poverty subburbs. So now they want to be considered with equal rights and equal employment (that's obviously not the case).<br />
I'm not one of them, but I do understand why they are so pissed off, and even if I don't like the way they are trying to be express themselves (burning stuff is not the right solution...they will only get more police control, that's what they always get for trying to get heard)<br />
They are just out of patience, poor and seeking for those "liberte, egalite, fraternite" we promised them but never gave them.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2005 16:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;Tax Cut for the rich&quot; mantra gives you away, Anji. When you start out in your first words with a lie, what else are we supposed to take from the post?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 'Tax Cut for the rich" mantra gives you away, Anji. When you start out in your first words with a lie, what else are we supposed to take from the post?</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 18:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bithead,

National security is the presidents&#039;s job. a fantasy?  Guess it is under the current admin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bithead,</p>
<p>National security is the presidents's job. a fantasy?  Guess it is under the current admin.</p>
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		<title>By: Atm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 01:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Now 9-11 is somehow Franceâs fault?&lt;/b&gt;

No, 9-11 is more Germany&#039;s and to a lesser exteng Spain&#039;s fault.  Mr. &quot;I want to learn how to fly a 747 but no land it&quot; is a creation of the French social, political and cultural environment, the same environment that has resulted in these riots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Now 9-11 is somehow Franceâs fault?</b></p>
<p>No, 9-11 is more Germany's and to a lesser exteng Spain's fault.  Mr. "I want to learn how to fly a 747 but no land it" is a creation of the French social, political and cultural environment, the same environment that has resulted in these riots.</p>
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		<title>By: Atm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 01:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well should Clinton take responsibility for allowing Atta into the country?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well should Clinton take responsibility for allowing Atta into the country?</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 00:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anki-san;

Are you often given to such fantasies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anki-san;</p>
<p>Are you often given to such fantasies?</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 22:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets face facts. In the days &amp; weeks leading up to 9-11, the Bush admin was focused like a laser on tax cuts for billionaires.  Now 9-11 is somehow France&#039;s fault?  Sorry, the national security of the US is the president&#039;s job.

Its a lot easier to trash someone else then to look in the mirror. 

Of couse this is the Bush way, never take responsibiliy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets face facts. In the days &amp; weeks leading up to 9-11, the Bush admin was focused like a laser on tax cuts for billionaires.  Now 9-11 is somehow France's fault?  Sorry, the national security of the US is the president's job.</p>
<p>Its a lot easier to trash someone else then to look in the mirror. </p>
<p>Of couse this is the Bush way, never take responsibiliy.</p>
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		<title>By: Atm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 21:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I think it is fair, as Europeans were doing the same after Katrina, despite their multitude of failures in dealing with the effects of nature.  And let us not lay 9-11 at our government&#039;s feet principally, considering that much of the 9-11 plot was planned and facilitated in Europe.  Furthermore, let us not forget that hijacker wannabe Zacharias Massaoui (sic?) was French North African.   Unlike Katrina, Europe and particularly France&#039;s problems with Muslim immigrants represents a grave threat to the security of the United States.  Their inability (or unwillingless) to deal with them appropriately and filter out and expel the violent ones was an extremely important contributory factor in making 9-11 possible.  My view is it is time to end the visa waiver program allowing Europeans to visit the US without sufficient screening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I think it is fair, as Europeans were doing the same after Katrina, despite their multitude of failures in dealing with the effects of nature.  And let us not lay 9-11 at our government's feet principally, considering that much of the 9-11 plot was planned and facilitated in Europe.  Furthermore, let us not forget that hijacker wannabe Zacharias Massaoui (sic?) was French North African.   Unlike Katrina, Europe and particularly France's problems with Muslim immigrants represents a grave threat to the security of the United States.  Their inability (or unwillingless) to deal with them appropriately and filter out and expel the violent ones was an extremely important contributory factor in making 9-11 possible.  My view is it is time to end the visa waiver program allowing Europeans to visit the US without sufficient screening.</p>
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		<title>By: T. Longren</title>
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		<dc:creator>T. Longren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 20:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;France: To Hell in a Handbasket&lt;/strong&gt;

	Nine nights of muslims rioting in the streets so far.  All due to a couple kids who got in trouble by the cops and fled to a power station.  Do cops in Paris just chase people for the hell of it?  I doubt it.
	The protests/rioting continues to grow mo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>France: To Hell in a Handbasket</strong></p>
<p>	Nine nights of muslims rioting in the streets so far.  All due to a couple kids who got in trouble by the cops and fled to a power station.  Do cops in Paris just chase people for the hell of it?  I doubt it.<br />
	The protests/rioting continues to grow mo...</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 19:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After recent catastrophic failures of our own government (9-11, Katrina), I am not sure we should be so quick to take others to task, much less label them &quot;failures&quot;.  We would do better to put our own house in order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After recent catastrophic failures of our own government (9-11, Katrina), I am not sure we should be so quick to take others to task, much less label them "failures".  We would do better to put our own house in order.</p>
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		<title>By: Weapons of Mass Destruction</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weapons of Mass Destruction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 16:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Stopping the Riots Might Be The Easy Part&lt;/strong&gt;

If the Obin report is even one-half accurate, France faces a crisis of governance that, unless addressed, could eventually tear France apart. The post draws from an article written by Olivier Guitta that can be found here and Alex Alexiev</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Stopping the Riots Might Be The Easy Part</strong></p>
<p>If the Obin report is even one-half accurate, France faces a crisis of governance that, unless addressed, could eventually tear France apart. The post draws from an article written by Olivier Guitta that can be found here and Alex Alexiev</p>
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		<title>By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 16:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Rioting Spreads From Paris Across France&lt;/strong&gt;

Widespread riots across impoverished areas of France took a malevolent turn in a ninth night of viol</description>
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<p>Widespread riots across impoverished areas of France took a malevolent turn in a ninth night of viol</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 15:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m reminded of that perhaps apocryphal story of Henry Kissinger asking Chou En-Lai, prime minister of China in the early 1970s, &quot;What do you think of the French Revolution?&quot;  Chou&#039;s response: &quot;Too soon to tell!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm reminded of that perhaps apocryphal story of Henry Kissinger asking Chou En-Lai, prime minister of China in the early 1970s, "What do you think of the French Revolution?"  Chou's response: "Too soon to tell!"</p>
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