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		<title>By: Tom Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2005 01:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;High Noon for Will Kane&lt;/strong&gt;
Joe Gandelman is a reasonable man. Indeed, his blog is aptly named The Moderate Voice. Throughout the vitriol of the fall campaign, Gandelman stayed close to his values; he stayed on the track of the middle path, the center lane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>High Noon for Will Kane</strong><br />
Joe Gandelman is a reasonable man. Indeed, his blog is aptly named The Moderate Voice. Throughout the vitriol of the fall campaign, Gandelman stayed close to his values; he stayed on the track of the middle path, the center lane</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/frist_plays_god_card_on_judges/comment-page-1/#comment-43159</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Half Sigma has a very good point, it is sad that religion is being abused as a political difference, a way to say &quot;I&#039;m better than you&quot; and this is also why atleast I am afraid of the growing christian participation in politics. Not because I believe they&#039;re evil (I&#039;m a Christian), but because whereas before it was &quot;who&#039;s going to do the best to make our nation better&quot;, now it seems it is &quot;who&#039;s going to do the best to bring our nation in line with God&quot;. Please correct me if I am wrong, but if this is true, then there remain good reasons to seperate religion and government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Half Sigma has a very good point, it is sad that religion is being abused as a political difference, a way to say "I'm better than you" and this is also why atleast I am afraid of the growing christian participation in politics. Not because I believe they're evil (I'm a Christian), but because whereas before it was "who's going to do the best to make our nation better", now it seems it is "who's going to do the best to bring our nation in line with God". Please correct me if I am wrong, but if this is true, then there remain good reasons to seperate religion and government.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Me</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/frist_plays_god_card_on_judges/comment-page-1/#comment-43129</link>
		<dc:creator>Just Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I donât understand how questioning whether a judgeâs religious beliefs are going to lead him to ignore the law is religious bigotry.&quot;

Well wondering, and assuming are two different things.  If the person answers that they will follow the law, and you decide that their religious beliefs are too deeply held, and makes them unqualified because of it, then you have effectively created a religious test, and that my friends is unconstitutional-not just unethical or offensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"I donât understand how questioning whether a judgeâs religious beliefs are going to lead him to ignore the law is religious bigotry."</p>
<p>Well wondering, and assuming are two different things.  If the person answers that they will follow the law, and you decide that their religious beliefs are too deeply held, and makes them unqualified because of it, then you have effectively created a religious test, and that my friends is unconstitutional-not just unethical or offensive.</p>
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		<title>By: The Smoothing Plane</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Smoothing Plane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;At Stroke of Midnight.  (hint,Yeats)&lt;/strong&gt;
Here is a bit of comment from Outside the Beltway. He is commenting on Senator Frist&#039;s plans to speak to his
(oh my gosh, Evangelical!!) supporters on April 24th,...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>At Stroke of Midnight.  (hint,Yeats)</strong><br />
Here is a bit of comment from Outside the Beltway. He is commenting on Senator Frist's plans to speak to his<br />
(oh my gosh, Evangelical!!) supporters on April 24th,...</p>
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		<title>By: ISOU</title>
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		<dc:creator>ISOU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2005 22:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I like the Commissar...&lt;/strong&gt;
I always have... And I don&#039;t for a moment question his conservative credentials, but I don&#039;t question his common sense either, or for that matter his patriotism. Little things can have great impact on history. And I will not be...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I like the Commissar...</strong><br />
I always have... And I don't for a moment question his conservative credentials, but I don't question his common sense either, or for that matter his patriotism. Little things can have great impact on history. And I will not be...</p>
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		<title>By: Half Sigma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Half Sigma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The divide between Democrats and Republicans is becoming more about religion and less about economics. Unfortunately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The divide between Democrats and Republicans is becoming more about religion and less about economics. Unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: UNCoRRELATED</title>
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		<dc:creator>UNCoRRELATED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2005 16:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Choose your Faustian bargain&lt;/strong&gt;
Joe Gandelman has an update post on what appears to be a developing blogstorm on Bill Frist decision to play hardball with obstructionist Democrats. What&#039;s remarkable about Joe&#039;s &quot;moderate voice&quot; is how a balanced view of the matter is so...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Choose your Faustian bargain</strong><br />
Joe Gandelman has an update post on what appears to be a developing blogstorm on Bill Frist decision to play hardball with obstructionist Democrats. What's remarkable about Joe's "moderate voice" is how a balanced view of the matter is so...</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2005 16:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop putting this in a purely religious context. The democrats are not trying to keep anyone who goes to church out of the judiciary. They are merely being picky as to what kind of judges they want, and having approved near record amounts of judge nominees, they have the right to do that. There is no urgency to nominate judges, so why rush the evaluation process? Perhaps it is not that they find one nominee bad but, on the contrary, believe another would be better. Senators have the right to decide that someone would not make a good judge, whatever the reason, and act on that decision. That is why they must be approved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop putting this in a purely religious context. The democrats are not trying to keep anyone who goes to church out of the judiciary. They are merely being picky as to what kind of judges they want, and having approved near record amounts of judge nominees, they have the right to do that. There is no urgency to nominate judges, so why rush the evaluation process? Perhaps it is not that they find one nominee bad but, on the contrary, believe another would be better. Senators have the right to decide that someone would not make a good judge, whatever the reason, and act on that decision. That is why they must be approved.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Ted Keeps a Diary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Ted Keeps a Diary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2005 16:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Concurrent Majority?&lt;/strong&gt;
The current feeding frenzy over judicial nominations and the filibuster is operating in a serious absence of context, especially on the right side of the blogosphere. What the right is forgetting, and the left is hammering on, is that the...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Concurrent Majority?</strong><br />
The current feeding frenzy over judicial nominations and the filibuster is operating in a serious absence of context, especially on the right side of the blogosphere. What the right is forgetting, and the left is hammering on, is that the...</p>
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		<title>By: jt007</title>
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		<dc:creator>jt007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2005 10:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is unbelievable to me how many people are threatened by the Christian religion.  All over the blogosphere people who I have come to respect as logical and fair minded have distorted the purpose of Frist&#039;s appearance on this telecast.  Neither Frist nor anyone else is making the claim that the Democrats&#039; use of the filibuster somehow shows that the Democrats are not on the side of God.  That is a distortion and the people who are propagating that falsehood are either dishonest or stupid.  

On the contrary, Frist is confronting the reality that certain nominees, not all of them, have been filibustered because of their religious affiliation and beliefs.  Glenn Reynolds and everyone else can pretend otherwise, but Charles Schumer and the other Democrat trolls on the Judiciary Committee have explicitly stated that they object to certain candidates because of their &quot;deeply held beliefs.&quot;  Case in point, William Pryor.  He is a devout Christian, but as the Alabama AG, he has a track record of enforcing laws that he doesn&#039;t personally agree with.  He is the public official who enforced the court order removing the ten commandments monument from the Alabama Supreme Court building.  He has also enforced Alabama laws ensuring a woman&#039;s right to an abortion even though he is pro-life.  He has done nothing professionally that would warrant the filibuster.  Democrats are just using him as a Christian bogeyman to hold up to their liberal elitist, People for the American Way constituents as a bigoted Christian that they are protecting us from.  Frist is correct that Democrats don&#039;t want Pryor and several others on the bench because of their &quot;deeply held beliefs.&quot;  Quit misstating the claims made by Frist and stop pretending that Democrats haven&#039;t  done what they have admitted to doing.

Why is it that people who consider themselves moderate Republicans or Libertarians are as repulsed by Christians as are Democrats.  Get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is unbelievable to me how many people are threatened by the Christian religion.  All over the blogosphere people who I have come to respect as logical and fair minded have distorted the purpose of Frist's appearance on this telecast.  Neither Frist nor anyone else is making the claim that the Democrats' use of the filibuster somehow shows that the Democrats are not on the side of God.  That is a distortion and the people who are propagating that falsehood are either dishonest or stupid.  </p>
<p>On the contrary, Frist is confronting the reality that certain nominees, not all of them, have been filibustered because of their religious affiliation and beliefs.  Glenn Reynolds and everyone else can pretend otherwise, but Charles Schumer and the other Democrat trolls on the Judiciary Committee have explicitly stated that they object to certain candidates because of their "deeply held beliefs."  Case in point, William Pryor.  He is a devout Christian, but as the Alabama AG, he has a track record of enforcing laws that he doesn't personally agree with.  He is the public official who enforced the court order removing the ten commandments monument from the Alabama Supreme Court building.  He has also enforced Alabama laws ensuring a woman's right to an abortion even though he is pro-life.  He has done nothing professionally that would warrant the filibuster.  Democrats are just using him as a Christian bogeyman to hold up to their liberal elitist, People for the American Way constituents as a bigoted Christian that they are protecting us from.  Frist is correct that Democrats don't want Pryor and several others on the bench because of their "deeply held beliefs."  Quit misstating the claims made by Frist and stop pretending that Democrats haven't  done what they have admitted to doing.</p>
<p>Why is it that people who consider themselves moderate Republicans or Libertarians are as repulsed by Christians as are Democrats.  Get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: &#60;i&#62;Deinonychus antirrhopus&#60;/i&#62;</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#60;i&#62;Deinonychus antirrhopus&#60;/i&#62;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2005 07:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Defying Jesus?&lt;/strong&gt;
James Joyner has an interesting post on the problem of getting Bush&#039;s judicial nominees confirmed by the Senate. I support Frist&#039;s efforts to get judicial nominees an up-or-down vote and even support invoking the so-called &quot;nuclear option&quot; to get i...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Defying Jesus?</strong><br />
James Joyner has an interesting post on the problem of getting Bush's judicial nominees confirmed by the Senate. I support Frist's efforts to get judicial nominees an up-or-down vote and even support invoking the so-called "nuclear option" to get i...</p>
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		<title>By: ISOU</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/frist_plays_god_card_on_judges/comment-page-1/#comment-43081</link>
		<dc:creator>ISOU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2005 05:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I like the Commissar...&lt;/strong&gt;
I always have... And I don&#039;t for a moment question his conservative credentials, but I don&#039;t question his common sense either, or for that matter his patriotism. Little things can have great impact on history. And I will not be...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I like the Commissar...</strong><br />
I always have... And I don't for a moment question his conservative credentials, but I don't question his common sense either, or for that matter his patriotism. Little things can have great impact on history. And I will not be...</p>
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		<title>By: Sydney Carton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sydney Carton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2005 04:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schumer isn&#039;t the only one doing it:

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8034

&quot;No Catholics Need Apply
By David Holman 
Published 4/15/2005 12:08:16 AM
Washington special interest groups -- notorious for their anti-religious hostility toward conservatives -- are conducting a coordinated smear campaign against Scott Bloch, George Bush&#039;s appointee to the Office of Special Counsel (OSC), which reviews and refers whistleblower disclosures to agency heads. In an interview with TAS, Pete Leon, legislative director for Rep. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.), who has called for Bloch&#039;s resignation, revealed the fundamental anti-religious bigotry at the heart of the campaign. Articulating his objections to Bloch, Leon said, &quot;He is a devout Catholic,&quot; then quickly added, after he realized his gaffe, the famously insincere line from Seinfeld, &quot;Not that there&#039;s anything wrong with that.&quot;

And now the libetarians in the blogosphere are doing it too, because I suppose religious people are getting too &quot;uppity.&quot;  Where have I heard that before?  And why the constant use of the smear-word THEOCRAT by so-called mainstream bloggers like Instapundit?  Perhaps all of this bigotry is being exposed for what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schumer isn't the only one doing it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8034" rel="nofollow">http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8034</a></p>
<p>"No Catholics Need Apply<br />
By David Holman<br />
Published 4/15/2005 12:08:16 AM<br />
Washington special interest groups -- notorious for their anti-religious hostility toward conservatives -- are conducting a coordinated smear campaign against Scott Bloch, George Bush's appointee to the Office of Special Counsel (OSC), which reviews and refers whistleblower disclosures to agency heads. In an interview with TAS, Pete Leon, legislative director for Rep. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.), who has called for Bloch's resignation, revealed the fundamental anti-religious bigotry at the heart of the campaign. Articulating his objections to Bloch, Leon said, "He is a devout Catholic," then quickly added, after he realized his gaffe, the famously insincere line from Seinfeld, "Not that there's anything wrong with that."</p>
<p>And now the libetarians in the blogosphere are doing it too, because I suppose religious people are getting too "uppity."  Where have I heard that before?  And why the constant use of the smear-word THEOCRAT by so-called mainstream bloggers like Instapundit?  Perhaps all of this bigotry is being exposed for what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda from Whittier, CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda from Whittier, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2005 04:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it bizzare that the Majority Leader cannot speak at a conference of some of his biggist supporters.  It seems to send all the secularists into hysterical (as Hugh Hewitt says)relgiousrightititus.  Seems that some of you supposedly on our side have the same desease.  I know most of the secularists think that the 40% of us who attend church regularly should just show up vote the way you want then sit down and shut up.  Sorry it doesn&#039;t work that way.  This namby pamby &quot;stay away from the religious people&quot; is disgusting and idiotic.  We are not trying to legislate Jesus, but we are not going to give into the religious biggotry from our side or from the DEMS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it bizzare that the Majority Leader cannot speak at a conference of some of his biggist supporters.  It seems to send all the secularists into hysterical (as Hugh Hewitt says)relgiousrightititus.  Seems that some of you supposedly on our side have the same desease.  I know most of the secularists think that the 40% of us who attend church regularly should just show up vote the way you want then sit down and shut up.  Sorry it doesn't work that way.  This namby pamby "stay away from the religious people" is disgusting and idiotic.  We are not trying to legislate Jesus, but we are not going to give into the religious biggotry from our side or from the DEMS.</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2005 03:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I donât understand how questioning whether a judgeâs religious beliefs are going to lead him to ignore the law is religious bigotry.&lt;/i&gt;

The assumption that religious &lt;b&gt;judges&lt;/b&gt; -- men and women who have been &lt;i&gt;trained&lt;/i&gt; in the law -- would ignore the law, doesn&#039;t strike you as similar in substance to an assumption that a man whose skin is darker than someone else&#039;s, might be more likely to go insane with lust and rape one&#039;s daughter?

&#039;Cause it does strike me that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I donât understand how questioning whether a judgeâs religious beliefs are going to lead him to ignore the law is religious bigotry.</i></p>
<p>The assumption that religious <b>judges</b> -- men and women who have been <i>trained</i> in the law -- would ignore the law, doesn't strike you as similar in substance to an assumption that a man whose skin is darker than someone else's, might be more likely to go insane with lust and rape one's daughter?</p>
<p>'Cause it does strike me that way.</p>
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