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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/gasoline_tax_honesty/comment-page-1/#comment-358241</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 17:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, by all means, eliminate them too. You&#039;ll not get any argument from me on ThAt score, trust me.

And, no, Rick, the price wouldn&#039;t go higher. Riddle me this; Do you honestly consider that added taxes, when their taxes are already many times what their actual profits are, is going to lower the price at the pump?
 
Then why on &lt;em&gt;earth&lt;/em&gt; are you trying to sell us on the idea that the reverse is true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, by all means, eliminate them too. You'll not get any argument from me on ThAt score, trust me.</p>
<p>And, no, Rick, the price wouldn't go higher. Riddle me this; Do you honestly consider that added taxes, when their taxes are already many times what their actual profits are, is going to lower the price at the pump?</p>
<p>Then why on <em>earth</em> are you trying to sell us on the idea that the reverse is true?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick DeMent</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/gasoline_tax_honesty/comment-page-1/#comment-358238</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick DeMent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 17:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But then you would also have to eliminate the subsidies, credits and giveaways bithead and the price goes up higher then it was ...

you are such a complete tool, ill informed, and an oxygen thief to boot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But then you would also have to eliminate the subsidies, credits and giveaways bithead and the price goes up higher then it was ...</p>
<p>you are such a complete tool, ill informed, and an oxygen thief to boot.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/gasoline_tax_honesty/comment-page-1/#comment-357760</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 02:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, gang, I hate to keep coming back to this, but this time is a bit different. I keep saying that Exxon&#039;s profits last year were 40BUSD, but their taxes were 100BUSD.



That 20 or so cents is a drop in the gas tank.

What say, though, we call a REAL gas tax holiday?

Keep in mind those 100BUSD in taxes are exclusive of the at the pump 18.4 cents the government tacks on directly at the pump. How long would it take, do you suppose for Americans to burn 100 billion gallons of gas? A year? Suppose we had gas prices a dollar lower than they are right now. Hmmm?


I mean, multiply this by the number of gas and oil companies there are around, and eliminate all those taxes, too. DO you suppose there would be a price difference at the pump? 

You&#039;ll never see it, of course, because for one thing, Americans would know how much the government is creating the gas price problem with taxes, and there&#039;d be a full scale no-holds barred revolution.
 
What they&#039;re proposing just now is a nice attention-getter, but until they have the stones to propose a real gas tax holiday, don&#039;t expect me to take it seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, gang, I hate to keep coming back to this, but this time is a bit different. I keep saying that Exxon's profits last year were 40BUSD, but their taxes were 100BUSD.</p>
<p>That 20 or so cents is a drop in the gas tank.</p>
<p>What say, though, we call a REAL gas tax holiday?</p>
<p>Keep in mind those 100BUSD in taxes are exclusive of the at the pump 18.4 cents the government tacks on directly at the pump. How long would it take, do you suppose for Americans to burn 100 billion gallons of gas? A year? Suppose we had gas prices a dollar lower than they are right now. Hmmm?</p>
<p>I mean, multiply this by the number of gas and oil companies there are around, and eliminate all those taxes, too. DO you suppose there would be a price difference at the pump? </p>
<p>You'll never see it, of course, because for one thing, Americans would know how much the government is creating the gas price problem with taxes, and there'd be a full scale no-holds barred revolution.</p>
<p>What they're proposing just now is a nice attention-getter, but until they have the stones to propose a real gas tax holiday, don't expect me to take it seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 23:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, yeah, it&#039;s a stupid idea, but I wouldn&#039;t turn it down. That comes to about $2.40 a fillup in my pickup. That&#039;ll get me a moon pie and RC cola at any truck stop in Dixie.&lt;/blockquote&gt;You think you&#039;ll see any of that $2.40?  Gas won&#039;t become 18.4 cents cheaper when this goes into effect, but you can best believe it will go up by at least 18.4 cents when the &quot;holiday&quot; is over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Well, yeah, it's a stupid idea, but I wouldn't turn it down. That comes to about $2.40 a fillup in my pickup. That'll get me a moon pie and RC cola at any truck stop in Dixie.</p></blockquote>
<p>You think you'll see any of that $2.40?  Gas won't become 18.4 cents cheaper when this goes into effect, but you can best believe it will go up by at least 18.4 cents when the "holiday" is over.</p>
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		<title>By: William d'Inger</title>
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		<dc:creator>William d'Inger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, yeah, it&#039;s a stupid idea, but I wouldn&#039;t turn it down. That comes to about $2.40 a fillup in my pickup. That&#039;ll get me a moon pie and RC cola at any truck stop in Dixie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yeah, it's a stupid idea, but I wouldn't turn it down. That comes to about $2.40 a fillup in my pickup. That'll get me a moon pie and RC cola at any truck stop in Dixie.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/gasoline_tax_honesty/comment-page-1/#comment-357376</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 21:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You do recall, don&#039;t you, that this gas tax holiday (at least for this election cycle) was originally John McCain&#039;s idea&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, indeed.  And &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/04/gas_tax_demagoguery/&quot; title=&quot;Gas Tax Demagoguery&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I&#039;ve criticized him for it&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/04/mccain_calls_gas_tax_vacation/&quot; title=&quot;McCain Calls Gas Tax Vacation&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Repeatedly&lt;/a&gt;, in fact.

I *get* the need to pander on occasion but it&#039;s pure BS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You do recall, don't you, that this gas tax holiday (at least for this election cycle) was originally John McCain's idea</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, indeed.  And <a href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/04/gas_tax_demagoguery/" title="Gas Tax Demagoguery" rel="nofollow">I've criticized him for it</a>.  <a href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/04/mccain_calls_gas_tax_vacation/" title="McCain Calls Gas Tax Vacation" rel="nofollow">Repeatedly</a>, in fact.</p>
<p>I *get* the need to pander on occasion but it's pure BS.</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/gasoline_tax_honesty/comment-page-1/#comment-357282</link>
		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My colleague Alex Knapp believes people will see through Clinton’s pandering and that this will redound to Obama’s benefit. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
You do recall, don&#039;t you, that this gas tax holiday (at least for this election cycle) was originally John McCain&#039;s idea, that Clinton has tried to co-opt as her own, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My colleague Alex Knapp believes people will see through Clinton&rsquo;s pandering and that this will redound to Obama&rsquo;s benefit. </p></blockquote>
<p>You do recall, don't you, that this gas tax holiday (at least for this election cycle) was originally John McCain's idea, that Clinton has tried to co-opt as her own, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/gasoline_tax_honesty/comment-page-1/#comment-357254</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d also point out that the wording of the questions seems peculiar to me (and to some of Yglesias&#039;s commenters as well).

Instead of asking &quot;Do you support or oppose the planned federal gas tax holiday?&quot; with a typical &quot;strongly, somewhat, neither&quot; range of options, they asked &quot;Is the plan good for reasons X, or bad for reasons Y?&quot;  Especially since the reasons listed for it to be good won&#039;t be created by the plan, the reasons for it being bad have nothing whatsoever to do with the plan, and they are not mutually exclusive positions for a respondent to hold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'd also point out that the wording of the questions seems peculiar to me (and to some of Yglesias's commenters as well).</p>
<p>Instead of asking "Do you support or oppose the planned federal gas tax holiday?" with a typical "strongly, somewhat, neither" range of options, they asked "Is the plan good for reasons X, or bad for reasons Y?"  Especially since the reasons listed for it to be good won't be created by the plan, the reasons for it being bad have nothing whatsoever to do with the plan, and they are not mutually exclusive positions for a respondent to hold.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Polling on the issue suggest a majority of Americans are opposed to the holiday. See, e.g.:&lt;/blockquote&gt;While 51% is technically a majority, wouldn&#039;t it be more honest to say that Americans are mostly divided on the issue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Polling on the issue suggest a majority of Americans are opposed to the holiday. See, e.g.:</p></blockquote>
<p>While 51% is technically a majority, wouldn't it be more honest to say that Americans are mostly divided on the issue?</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/gasoline_tax_honesty/comment-page-1/#comment-357243</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Polling on the issue suggest a majority of Americans are opposed to the holiday.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I wonder, though, if that isn&#039;t a case of people telling pollster what they think they&#039;re supposed to say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Polling on the issue suggest a majority of Americans are opposed to the holiday.</p></blockquote>
<p>I wonder, though, if that isn't a case of people telling pollster what they think they're supposed to say?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Knapp</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/gasoline_tax_honesty/comment-page-1/#comment-357206</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Knapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Polling on the issue suggest a majority of Americans are opposed to the holiday.  See, e.g.:

http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/shocking_results.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polling on the issue suggest a majority of Americans are opposed to the holiday.  See, e.g.:</p>
<p><a href="http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/shocking_results.php" rel="nofollow">http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/shocking_results.php</a></p>
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