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		<title>By: Bandit</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/giuliani_campaign_plan_/comment-page-1/#comment-108494</link>
		<dc:creator>Bandit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 18:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/03/nyregion/03rudy.html?ei=5090&amp;en=3ec47a8639f32fc9&amp;ex=1325480400&amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;emc=rss&amp;pagewanted=print&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; says stolen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/03/nyregion/03rudy.html?ei=5090&amp;en=3ec47a8639f32fc9&amp;ex=1325480400&amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;emc=rss&amp;pagewanted=print" rel="nofollow">This</a> says stolen.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/giuliani_campaign_plan_/comment-page-1/#comment-108479</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 13:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The report makes it sound as if some clod left it laying around somewhere: &lt;blockquote&gt;The source said it was left behind in one of the cities Giuliani visited as he campaigned for dozens of Republican candidates in the weeks leading up to the November 2006 elections.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The report makes it sound as if some clod left it laying around somewhere:<br />
<blockquote>The source said it was left behind in one of the cities Giuliani visited as he campaigned for dozens of Republican candidates in the weeks leading up to the November 2006 elections.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Bandit</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/giuliani_campaign_plan_/comment-page-1/#comment-108478</link>
		<dc:creator>Bandit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 13:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;New York Daily News reporter Ben Smith acquired a carelessly safeguarded copy of Rudy Giuliani’s presidential campaign strategy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

wtf? Do U mean stolen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>New York Daily News reporter Ben Smith acquired a carelessly safeguarded copy of Rudy Giuliani&rsquo;s presidential campaign strategy.</p></blockquote>
<p>wtf? Do U mean stolen?</p>
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		<title>By: The Moderate Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rudy&#8217;s Plans</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/giuliani_campaign_plan_/comment-page-1/#comment-108422</link>
		<dc:creator>The Moderate Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rudy&#8217;s Plans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More at Power Line, The Carpetbagger Report, Outside the Beltway and Shakespeare&#8217;s Sister.    Posted on January 2, 2007 &#124; Permalink &#124; Categories 2008 Elections &#124; &#124;  View blog reactions [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] More at Power Line, The Carpetbagger Report, Outside the Beltway and Shakespeare&#8217;s Sister.    Posted on January 2, 2007 | Permalink | Categories 2008 Elections | |  View blog reactions [...]</p>
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		<title>By: yetanotherjohn</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/giuliani_campaign_plan_/comment-page-1/#comment-108415</link>
		<dc:creator>yetanotherjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 21:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DL,

Good point. I made an assumption that wasn&#039;t backed up by the facts. I assumed that it would most likely be a republican who would have access to areas that this could be left. But it equally could have been the busboy. Thanks for calling me on it.

If it was just an ordinary joe who found it and turned it in, then the story probably stops here no matter which rival he supports. If the person is associated with the campaign of a democratic rival, the story also probably stops as &#039;politics as usual&#039;. If it is a person associated with a republican campaign and that comes out, I think the story becomes a big one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DL,</p>
<p>Good point. I made an assumption that wasn't backed up by the facts. I assumed that it would most likely be a republican who would have access to areas that this could be left. But it equally could have been the busboy. Thanks for calling me on it.</p>
<p>If it was just an ordinary joe who found it and turned it in, then the story probably stops here no matter which rival he supports. If the person is associated with the campaign of a democratic rival, the story also probably stops as 'politics as usual'. If it is a person associated with a republican campaign and that comes out, I think the story becomes a big one.</p>
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		<title>By: Political Animal</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/giuliani_campaign_plan_/comment-page-1/#comment-108414</link>
		<dc:creator>Political Animal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 21:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Giuliani&#039;s playbook...&lt;/strong&gt;

GIULIANI&#039;S PLAYBOOK.... Somebody&#039;s getting fired. It&#039;s clearly laid out in 140 pages of printed text, handwriting and spreadsheets: The top-secret plan for Rudy Giuliani&#039;s bid for the White House. The remarkably detailed dossier sets out the budget...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Giuliani's playbook...</strong></p>
<p>GIULIANI'S PLAYBOOK.... Somebody's getting fired. It's clearly laid out in 140 pages of printed text, handwriting and spreadsheets: The top-secret plan for Rudy Giuliani's bid for the White House. The remarkably detailed dossier sets out the budget...</p>
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		<title>By: Ankle Biting Pundits &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Guiliani Memo</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/giuliani_campaign_plan_/comment-page-1/#comment-108402</link>
		<dc:creator>Ankle Biting Pundits &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Guiliani Memo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 19:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joyner says Aside from listing the people Giuliani plans to target to handle key organizational roles–which gives a heads up to rivals and creates potential embarrassment if he is unsuccessful at bringing them on board–this doesn’t seem like that big of a deal. That those bullet points are key vulnerabilities is common knowledge, as is the need to raise oodles of money. Still, if your chief selling point is executive competence, such stumbles aren’t good. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Joyner says Aside from listing the people Giuliani plans to target to handle key organizational roles–which gives a heads up to rivals and creates potential embarrassment if he is unsuccessful at bringing them on board–this doesn&rsquo;t seem like that big of a deal. That those bullet points are key vulnerabilities is common knowledge, as is the need to raise oodles of money. Still, if your chief selling point is executive competence, such stumbles aren&rsquo;t good. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ttent</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/giuliani_campaign_plan_/comment-page-1/#comment-108386</link>
		<dc:creator>ttent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 17:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary and Giuliani need to get over 9/11.  he told everyone to stay in an unsafe, poisoned city without the proper checks.  She screamed for money.

9/11 is difficult to get around.  No one really wants these to be President.  It&#039;s just not going to work for them.  They should get over it and pass.

Ethics?  There have been too many leaks under Plame and it&#039;s normal to leak now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary and Giuliani need to get over 9/11.  he told everyone to stay in an unsafe, poisoned city without the proper checks.  She screamed for money.</p>
<p>9/11 is difficult to get around.  No one really wants these to be President.  It's just not going to work for them.  They should get over it and pass.</p>
<p>Ethics?  There have been too many leaks under Plame and it's normal to leak now.</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/giuliani_campaign_plan_/comment-page-1/#comment-108385</link>
		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 17:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yetanotherjohn

&quot;I suspect that the republican base will be less happy with a republican who thinks airing your rival’s dirty laundry in the media is more important than winning the Whitehouse in 2008, even if the winner isn’t your first choice.&quot; 

I don&#039;t suppose old Hillary would ever do something like this. Why do you assume a Republican?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yetanotherjohn</p>
<p>"I suspect that the republican base will be less happy with a republican who thinks airing your rival&rsquo;s dirty laundry in the media is more important than winning the Whitehouse in 2008, even if the winner isn&rsquo;t your first choice." </p>
<p>I don't suppose old Hillary would ever do something like this. Why do you assume a Republican?</p>
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		<title>By: The Political Pit Bull</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/giuliani_campaign_plan_/comment-page-1/#comment-108382</link>
		<dc:creator>The Political Pit Bull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 17:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Giuliani&#039;s Campaign Plan for &#039;08 Revealed!!!...&lt;/strong&gt;

Ben Smith of The New York Daily News has an exclusive report today detailing Giuliani&#039;s &quot;top-secret plan&quot; for his &#039;08 run, which was allegedly found after being left behind at a campaign stop made by Giuliani this fall. So, what&#039;s......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Giuliani's Campaign Plan for '08 Revealed!!!...</strong></p>
<p>Ben Smith of The New York Daily News has an exclusive report today detailing Giuliani's "top-secret plan" for his '08 run, which was allegedly found after being left behind at a campaign stop made by Giuliani this fall. So, what's......</p>
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		<title>By: yetanotherjohn</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/giuliani_campaign_plan_/comment-page-1/#comment-108375</link>
		<dc:creator>yetanotherjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 16:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its the perception of losing important documents from the campaign (the &quot;executive competence&quot; you brought up) that is most likely to hurt. Of course, one would think that different people and security would be available for national secrets as president vs contender. But as one airline excutie noted, when a flyer sees a coffee stain on the fold down table at their seat, they start to worry about te engine maintenance even though the two are not really related.

What I would watch is for a revelation on who turned the document over to the media, &quot;a source sympathetic to one of Giuliani’s rivals for the White House&quot;. I suspect that the republican base will be less happy with a republican who thinks airing your rival’s dirty laundry in the media is more important than winning the Whitehouse in 2008, even if the winner isn&#039;t your first choice. The document was lost because someone supporting Rudy who was not careful enough. The document made it to the media by someone supporting his rival made a conscious choice. Inattention or incompetence can be fixed or fired, but ethics goes to the core.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its the perception of losing important documents from the campaign (the "executive competence" you brought up) that is most likely to hurt. Of course, one would think that different people and security would be available for national secrets as president vs contender. But as one airline excutie noted, when a flyer sees a coffee stain on the fold down table at their seat, they start to worry about te engine maintenance even though the two are not really related.</p>
<p>What I would watch is for a revelation on who turned the document over to the media, "a source sympathetic to one of Giuliani&rsquo;s rivals for the White House". I suspect that the republican base will be less happy with a republican who thinks airing your rival&rsquo;s dirty laundry in the media is more important than winning the Whitehouse in 2008, even if the winner isn't your first choice. The document was lost because someone supporting Rudy who was not careful enough. The document made it to the media by someone supporting his rival made a conscious choice. Inattention or incompetence can be fixed or fired, but ethics goes to the core.</p>
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		<title>By: eyeon08.com &#187; Giuliani plan leaked; what&#8217;s next for him?</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/giuliani_campaign_plan_/comment-page-1/#comment-108373</link>
		<dc:creator>eyeon08.com &#187; Giuliani plan leaked; what&#8217;s next for him?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 16:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rudy Giuliani&#8217;s campaign plan was leaked. Outside the Beltway says that it is not a big deal, but I disagree. First of all, it shows places that Giuliani has failed to match his plan. For example: Two of the top figures on Giuliani&#8217;s list, New Jersey mega-fund-raisers Lew Eisenberg and Larry Bathgate, have already signed on with McCain, as has another Giuliani target, FedEx CEO Fred Smith. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rudy Giuliani&#8217;s campaign plan was leaked. Outside the Beltway says that it is not a big deal, but I disagree. First of all, it shows places that Giuliani has failed to match his plan. For example: Two of the top figures on Giuliani&#8217;s list, New Jersey mega-fund-raisers Lew Eisenberg and Larry Bathgate, have already signed on with McCain, as has another Giuliani target, FedEx CEO Fred Smith. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Hotline's Blogometer</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/giuliani_campaign_plan_/comment-page-1/#comment-123948</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hotline's Blogometer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;blunder.&quot; After all, the four issues cited in the memo as potential problem points for Rudy&#039;s candidacy (his private business, his relationship with Bernie Kerik, his third-wife, and his liberal positions on &quot;social issues&quot;) are hardly surprising.&quot; Outside the Beltway: &quot;Aside from listing the people Giuliani plans to target to handle key organizational roles-which gives a heads up to rivals and creates potential embarrassment if he is unsuccessful at bringing them on board-this doesn&#039;t seem like that big of a deal.&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->blunder." After all, the four issues cited in the memo as potential problem points for Rudy's candidacy (his private business, his relationship with Bernie Kerik, his third-wife, and his liberal positions on "social issues") are hardly surprising." Outside the Beltway: "Aside from listing the people Giuliani plans to target to handle key organizational roles-which gives a heads up to rivals and creates potential embarrassment if he is unsuccessful at bringing them on board-this doesn't seem like that big of a deal.<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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		<title>By:  Townhall.com::Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator> Townhall.com::Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;most of 2007 talking about Iraq and Iran in an attempt to catch up to Rudy in credibility on the war while Rudy will be working the second-order issues to avoid eclipse if Mitt makes that sale. Stories on the power point slides of Romney&#039;s strategists, like the stories surrounding the leaked plans from Rudy&#039;s campaign, just don&#039;t matter much because of the seriousness of the campaign and the fundamental divide between left and right in this country.   So, you should be asking, if it is all about the war, why isn&#039;t John McCain surging in his GOP support given his&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->most of 2007 talking about Iraq and Iran in an attempt to catch up to Rudy in credibility on the war while Rudy will be working the second-order issues to avoid eclipse if Mitt makes that sale. Stories on the power point slides of Romney's strategists, like the stories surrounding the leaked plans from Rudy's campaign, just don't matter much because of the seriousness of the campaign and the fundamental divide between left and right in this country.   So, you should be asking, if it is all about the war, why isn't John McCain surging in his GOP support given his<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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		<title>By:  Hugh Hewitt</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/giuliani_campaign_plan_/comment-page-1/#comment-123265</link>
		<dc:creator> Hugh Hewitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;most of 2007 talking about Iraq and Iran in an attempt to catch up to Rudy in credibility on the war while Rudy will be working the second-order issues to avoid eclipse if Mitt makes that sale. Stories on the power point slides of Romney&#039;s strategists, like the stories surrounding the leaked plans from Rudy&#039;s campaign, just don&#039;t matter much because of the seriousness of the campaign and the fundamental divide between left and right in this country.   So, you should be asking, if it is all about the war, why isn&#039;t John McCain surging in his GOP support given his&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->most of 2007 talking about Iraq and Iran in an attempt to catch up to Rudy in credibility on the war while Rudy will be working the second-order issues to avoid eclipse if Mitt makes that sale. Stories on the power point slides of Romney's strategists, like the stories surrounding the leaked plans from Rudy's campaign, just don't matter much because of the seriousness of the campaign and the fundamental divide between left and right in this country.   So, you should be asking, if it is all about the war, why isn't John McCain surging in his GOP support given his<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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