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		<title>By: Funmurphys:  the Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/glenn_beck_f-word_controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-110739</link>
		<dc:creator>Funmurphys:  the Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Since I&#039;ve Been Gone...&lt;/strong&gt;

I missed the State of the Union Address. I missed National Sanctity of Life Day. I missed the Scooter Libby Trial (I think I can join in progress, though) - although I&#039;ve read enough in the morning paper to wonder......</description>
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<p>I missed the State of the Union Address. I missed National Sanctity of Life Day. I missed the Scooter Libby Trial (I think I can join in progress, though) - although I've read enough in the morning paper to wonder......</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with Caliban Darklock above - thank you for that thoughtful post. In my neighborhood, the upper west side of Manhattan, near Harlem, I hear nigger all day long. It&#039;s the favorite word of black kids on the street - they use it for emphasis, for slang, for I don&#039;t know what. Especially when they refer to that &quot;Chinese nigger.&quot; 

The New York Times not using faggot? The absence is worse than the use. Weird. But then the Times took years to actually use gay instead of homosexual. It is the intent of the word, not the word, that hurts. Where is Lenny Bruce when we need him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with Caliban Darklock above - thank you for that thoughtful post. In my neighborhood, the upper west side of Manhattan, near Harlem, I hear nigger all day long. It's the favorite word of black kids on the street - they use it for emphasis, for slang, for I don't know what. Especially when they refer to that "Chinese nigger." </p>
<p>The New York Times not using faggot? The absence is worse than the use. Weird. But then the Times took years to actually use gay instead of homosexual. It is the intent of the word, not the word, that hurts. Where is Lenny Bruce when we need him?</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah &#187; Getting ridiculous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah &#187; Getting ridiculous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Such is the case with liberal blogger John Aravois, who, as James Joyner reports, is targeting Glenn Beck&#8217;s TV program because he used the &#8220;f&#8221; word (the slang word sometimes used for gay people) in the context of a discussion about how the actor in Hollywood who used it (Isiah Washington from Grey&#8217;s Anatomy) is under fire from gay groups. Here&#8217;s the relevant part of the transcript from Beck&#8217;s show. Beck&#8217;s interviewing with 97.1 FM St Louis radio host Dave Glover: GLOVER: Yes. Basically you have Isaiah Washington, who`s one of the stars of the show, who referred to one of his co-stars during a heated argument as a derogatory term for a gay man that starts with “F”, rhymes with maggot. Did it a couple more times after that. And do you like how I did that? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Such is the case with liberal blogger John Aravois, who, as James Joyner reports, is targeting Glenn Beck&#8217;s TV program because he used the &#8220;f&#8221; word (the slang word sometimes used for gay people) in the context of a discussion about how the actor in Hollywood who used it (Isiah Washington from Grey&#8217;s Anatomy) is under fire from gay groups. Here&#8217;s the relevant part of the transcript from Beck&#8217;s show. Beck&#8217;s interviewing with 97.1 FM St Louis radio host Dave Glover: GLOVER: Yes. Basically you have Isaiah Washington, who`s one of the stars of the show, who referred to one of his co-stars during a heated argument as a derogatory term for a gay man that starts with “F”, rhymes with maggot. Did it a couple more times after that. And do you like how I did that? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick McGuire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick McGuire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me thinks the lady doth protest too much!</description>
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		<title>By: Caliban Darklock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caliban Darklock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A black friend of mine, whom I&#039;ve known for many years, has long been of the opinion that &quot;the N-word&quot; is &lt;em&gt;more&lt;/em&gt; racist than &quot;nigger&quot;. 

His explanation is that when you say &quot;the N-word&quot;, you &lt;em&gt;thought&lt;/em&gt; &quot;nigger&quot;. You &lt;em&gt;meant&lt;/em&gt; &quot;nigger&quot;. Everybody in your audience &lt;em&gt;heard&lt;/em&gt; &quot;nigger&quot;. But now you want credit for not actually &lt;em&gt;saying&lt;/em&gt; &quot;nigger&quot;. 

So he proposes a test: take any racist statement, about any racial group, and rewrite it with &quot;N-word&quot; instead of the racial slur. The result is still racist and still offensive. Saying &quot;the N-word&quot; instead of &quot;nigger&quot; doesn&#039;t make your statements any less racist. 

What needs work isn&#039;t using the word &quot;nigger&quot;, but saying things that &lt;strong&gt;need&lt;/strong&gt; to use the word &quot;nigger&quot;. If you can&#039;t figure out how to say it without that word, just use the word! Playing games with it isn&#039;t going to improve things!

Same thing with &quot;faggot&quot;. If you can&#039;t say what you need to say without saying &quot;faggot&quot;, then what you are saying is inherently offensive to gays anyway. Just say &quot;faggot&quot;. It can&#039;t make things worse. 

What we need to do is rob these words of their power. The words &quot;nigger&quot; and &quot;faggot&quot; are already used within their respective communities as terms of endearment and respect. Their meanings can change and become less intolerant, simply by using them in less intolerant ways. When you refer to blacks as &quot;niggers&quot; and gays as &quot;faggots&quot;, but you don&#039;t hate either group, you make one tiny little step toward divorcing these words from hatred. 

In time, they&#039;ll just be words. Just like &quot;mick&quot; and &quot;wop&quot;, formerly fighting words for Irish and Italian immigrants, they&#039;ll become quaint terms that don&#039;t really offend anyone. I suggest that this would be an advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A black friend of mine, whom I've known for many years, has long been of the opinion that "the N-word" is <em>more</em> racist than "nigger". </p>
<p>His explanation is that when you say "the N-word", you <em>thought</em> "nigger". You <em>meant</em> "nigger". Everybody in your audience <em>heard</em> "nigger". But now you want credit for not actually <em>saying</em> "nigger". </p>
<p>So he proposes a test: take any racist statement, about any racial group, and rewrite it with "N-word" instead of the racial slur. The result is still racist and still offensive. Saying "the N-word" instead of "nigger" doesn't make your statements any less racist. </p>
<p>What needs work isn't using the word "nigger", but saying things that <strong>need</strong> to use the word "nigger". If you can't figure out how to say it without that word, just use the word! Playing games with it isn't going to improve things!</p>
<p>Same thing with "faggot". If you can't say what you need to say without saying "faggot", then what you are saying is inherently offensive to gays anyway. Just say "faggot". It can't make things worse. </p>
<p>What we need to do is rob these words of their power. The words "nigger" and "faggot" are already used within their respective communities as terms of endearment and respect. Their meanings can change and become less intolerant, simply by using them in less intolerant ways. When you refer to blacks as "niggers" and gays as "faggots", but you don't hate either group, you make one tiny little step toward divorcing these words from hatred. </p>
<p>In time, they'll just be words. Just like "mick" and "wop", formerly fighting words for Irish and Italian immigrants, they'll become quaint terms that don't really offend anyone. I suggest that this would be an advance.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Stormy.
If there was ever an induication that the original complaint from Washington was simply a tool to attract attention, it&#039;s this nonsense being used against Beck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm with Stormy.<br />
If there was ever an induication that the original complaint from Washington was simply a tool to attract attention, it's this nonsense being used against Beck.</p>
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		<title>By: Stormy70</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stormy70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They just hate Glenn Beck and are looking for a reason to freak out on him. This is an overreaction on their part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They just hate Glenn Beck and are looking for a reason to freak out on him. This is an overreaction on their part.</p>
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		<title>By: Da Right One - MySpace Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Da Right One - MySpace Blog</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;of the Senate&quot; discussing &quot;race relations&quot;?  Their &quot;concern&quot; about discrimination based on orientation is highly laughable considering they used the very same term on their website a few days ago...  You can also click here for another perspective.  I hope you had a great day!           [IMG]  Currently listening :  The Best of the Early Years   By Luther Barnes &amp; the Sunset Jubilaires  Release date: By 07 November, 2000 &lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->of the Senate" discussing "race relations"?  Their "concern" about discrimination based on orientation is highly laughable considering they used the very same term on their website a few days ago...  You can also click here for another perspective.  I hope you had a great day!           [IMG]  Currently listening :  The Best of the Early Years   By Luther Barnes &#038; the Sunset Jubilaires  Release date: By 07 November, 2000 <!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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