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	<title>Comments on: Glenn Greenwald&#8217;s IP Address Stolen</title>
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		<title>By: Wizbang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wizbang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 05:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Beyond a Reasonable Doubt...&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;ve always loved that phrase. Much of the language that defines our country is amazingly elegant. This is one of those phrases. During the O.J. Simpson trial I had the misfortune of sharing an office with a guy who I......</description>
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<p>I've always loved that phrase. Much of the language that defines our country is amazingly elegant. This is one of those phrases. During the O.J. Simpson trial I had the misfortune of sharing an office with a guy who I......</p>
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		<title>By: Patterico&#8217;s Pontifications &#187; Annotated WuzzaDem: The Facts Behind the Greenwald Sock-Puppetry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patterico&#8217;s Pontifications &#187; Annotated WuzzaDem: The Facts Behind the Greenwald Sock-Puppetry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Some have argued that it is more likely that Greenwald&#8217;s boyfriend posted the sock-puppet comments, and not Greenwald. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Some have argued that it is more likely that Greenwald&#8217;s boyfriend posted the sock-puppet comments, and not Greenwald. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Funmurphys:  the Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funmurphys:  the Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 17:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Glenn Greenwald, Sock Puppet?...&lt;/strong&gt;

I feel special, since the latest two blog two blog kerfuffles involved two people who have commented here, Deb Frisch and Glenn Greenwald. Given how few people comment here, I&#039;m just pleased as punch that a couple of titans of......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Glenn Greenwald, Sock Puppet?...</strong></p>
<p>I feel special, since the latest two blog two blog kerfuffles involved two people who have commented here, Deb Frisch and Glenn Greenwald. Given how few people comment here, I'm just pleased as punch that a couple of titans of......</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Science</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 21:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could one of you who have dismissed the idea that puppetmaster is someone other than Greenwald who lives in or near his place in Brazil explain what makes this theory so obviously specious?

The smell to me, as an (unfortunately) experienced sock-sniffer, is that the puppetmaster was trying to help Greenwald out, which was both unnecessary and foolish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could one of you who have dismissed the idea that puppetmaster is someone other than Greenwald who lives in or near his place in Brazil explain what makes this theory so obviously specious?</p>
<p>The smell to me, as an (unfortunately) experienced sock-sniffer, is that the puppetmaster was trying to help Greenwald out, which was both unnecessary and foolish.</p>
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		<title>By: Polimom Says &#187; Sockpuppets and Occam&#8217;s Razor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polimom Says &#187; Sockpuppets and Occam&#8217;s Razor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 18:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Heads huddled, notes were compared, and conclusions were drawn: Glenn Greenwald (say many) disguised himself under a variety of aliases to defend himself. He has engaged in sockpuppetry &#8212; and that&#8217;s the only thing that distinguishes this from the run-of-the-mill left v. right flame war. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Heads huddled, notes were compared, and conclusions were drawn: Glenn Greenwald (say many) disguised himself under a variety of aliases to defend himself. He has engaged in sockpuppetry &#8212; and that&#8217;s the only thing that distinguishes this from the run-of-the-mill left v. right flame war. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 12:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Heâ??s right up there with Joe Wilson and Jack Murtha now.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He sure is...under the category Lying Dickwads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Heâ??s right up there with Joe Wilson and Jack Murtha now.</p></blockquote>
<p>He sure is...under the category Lying Dickwads.</p>
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		<title>By: Pug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The right wing is going nuts over this trivia.  It&#039;s amazing.  A quick look at memeorandum shows every winger in existence is writing about this.

Greenwald drives you guys nuts.  Man, has he got your collective goat.  He&#039;s right up there with Joe Wilson and Jack Murtha now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The right wing is going nuts over this trivia.  It's amazing.  A quick look at memeorandum shows every winger in existence is writing about this.</p>
<p>Greenwald drives you guys nuts.  Man, has he got your collective goat.  He's right up there with Joe Wilson and Jack Murtha now.</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who in the hell is Greenwald ?

And, Who really CARES ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who in the hell is Greenwald ?</p>
<p>And, Who really CARES ?</p>
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		<title>By: Pixy Misa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pixy Misa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and:

If that&#039;s what jealous Brazilian lovers get up to these days, then standards have really slipped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and:</p>
<p>If that's what jealous Brazilian lovers get up to these days, then standards have really slipped.</p>
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		<title>By: Pixy Misa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pixy Misa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A jealous Brazilian lover who reads like a press release?  Riiiiight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A jealous Brazilian lover who reads like a press release?  Riiiiight.</p>
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		<title>By: Shahid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shahid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A technical point regarding MITM attacks and IP spoofing. None of these are as trivial as Lot 49 would like to make it, particularly for protocols like TCP/IP (which HTTP uses) that require acknowledgement. In all cases, you&#039;d pretty much have to be either on the endpoints, or reliably somewhere on the route or routes the connection takes. Modern switched networks makes this even tougher. Pretty much, the hacker would have had to hack into one of:

1. All of the local networks that house the web servers that Mr. Greenwald&#039;s defender posted on. Unlikely.

2. An ISP/network switch that was reliably on route between Mr. Greenwald&#039;s computer and all of those web servers. Does Mr. Greenwald have any friends at his ISP that secretly or otherwise use the Internet pretending to be him or his computer?

3. The local network that Greenwald&#039;s computer is on (or his computer). Though in this case, why bother?

I&#039;d go with either the sock puppet or the defensive partner. Funny either way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A technical point regarding MITM attacks and IP spoofing. None of these are as trivial as Lot 49 would like to make it, particularly for protocols like TCP/IP (which HTTP uses) that require acknowledgement. In all cases, you'd pretty much have to be either on the endpoints, or reliably somewhere on the route or routes the connection takes. Modern switched networks makes this even tougher. Pretty much, the hacker would have had to hack into one of:</p>
<p>1. All of the local networks that house the web servers that Mr. Greenwald's defender posted on. Unlikely.</p>
<p>2. An ISP/network switch that was reliably on route between Mr. Greenwald's computer and all of those web servers. Does Mr. Greenwald have any friends at his ISP that secretly or otherwise use the Internet pretending to be him or his computer?</p>
<p>3. The local network that Greenwald's computer is on (or his computer). Though in this case, why bother?</p>
<p>I'd go with either the sock puppet or the defensive partner. Funny either way.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arguing vigorously over the correct spelling of the name of a &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominalism&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nominalist&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; is almost as funny as &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2006/07/my_head_she_exp.html#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kantian nihilism&lt;/a&gt;.&quot;

But yeah, Controller, I hear ya on the IP stuff, but &quot;Occam&quot; is a perfectly respectable spelling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arguing vigorously over the correct spelling of the name of a <i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominalism" rel="nofollow">nominalist</a></i> is almost as funny as "<a href="http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2006/07/my_head_she_exp.html#comments" rel="nofollow">Kantian nihilism</a>."</p>
<p>But yeah, Controller, I hear ya on the IP stuff, but "Occam" is a perfectly respectable spelling.</p>
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		<title>By: sir gawain</title>
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		<dc:creator>sir gawain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ockham, Occcam, Sockem, Boppem!

It smells like either the Green Knight socked his own puppets in some sort of frustration, or he pimped out his friends, his wives, his concubines, his pets, and/or his neighbors to stain the water clear for him.  I don&#039;t buy Chloe hacking through from CTU.  Christ!  Think of all the more tantalizing hacks out there, closer to Everest!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ockham, Occcam, Sockem, Boppem!</p>
<p>It smells like either the Green Knight socked his own puppets in some sort of frustration, or he pimped out his friends, his wives, his concubines, his pets, and/or his neighbors to stain the water clear for him.  I don't buy Chloe hacking through from CTU.  Christ!  Think of all the more tantalizing hacks out there, closer to Everest!!</p>
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		<title>By: VRWC</title>
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		<dc:creator>VRWC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Controller, you lose that one. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Controller, you lose that one. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes lookit those goalposts a-movin&#039;; one minute it was &quot;nevermind wikipedia, any &lt;em&gt;reputable&lt;/em&gt; encyclopedia will back me up&quot;, now that Encyclopedia Brittanica has failed to back you up, any alternate spelling magically transmutes into a &quot;misspelling&quot;.  

Following that logic, ancient romans are turning over in their graves every time you mutilate Latin with the debased slang you call &quot;English&quot;.  

Here&#039;s a news flash for ya - just about every word in the English language is a &quot;misspelling&quot; of some previous version, that&#039;s how so many of them start in one language like Latin, Greek or Old English and ultimately end up in Webster&#039;s through a process called &quot;accepted usage&quot; wherein the new spelling is (officially, your efforts notwithstanding) considered &quot;correct&quot;.  

So if you want to go down that road, be my guest, just remember by your own &quot;logic&quot; that you are &quot;misspelling&quot; virtually every non-capitalized word you type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes lookit those goalposts a-movin'; one minute it was "nevermind wikipedia, any <em>reputable</em> encyclopedia will back me up", now that Encyclopedia Brittanica has failed to back you up, any alternate spelling magically transmutes into a "misspelling".  </p>
<p>Following that logic, ancient romans are turning over in their graves every time you mutilate Latin with the debased slang you call "English".  </p>
<p>Here's a news flash for ya - just about every word in the English language is a "misspelling" of some previous version, that's how so many of them start in one language like Latin, Greek or Old English and ultimately end up in Webster's through a process called "accepted usage" wherein the new spelling is (officially, your efforts notwithstanding) considered "correct".  </p>
<p>So if you want to go down that road, be my guest, just remember by your own "logic" that you are "misspelling" virtually every non-capitalized word you type.</p>
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