I thought I agreed with you that the the orbit is not perfect anymore

How does "the earth spins perfectly around the sun" and "there is no other like it" in any way convey that you think it is currently imperfect?

evolution is relevant to every topic you believe in my friend,

Just because you make it a part of every topic of debate, doesn't mean that it is relevant. Evolution is relevant only in terms of biological systems. Earth's orbit has nothing whatsoever to do with evolution.

As to No.4 I would love to know what you think the answer is.

Based on observations of Venus, the chances are pretty good that there was another earth-like planet in our own solar system at one time.

No, what you failed to do was recognize that our orbit is not perfect, that seasons have always existed, and that seasons are not caused by our orbit. I have no problem with you believing in God, but denying facts is not "faith".

I thought I agreed with you that the the orbit is not perfect anymore, prove that the seasons have always been, the bible says no and is much more credible then anything any of you have ever come up with or ever will, and my hole point is you people use do not use fact, I would call them UN granted wishes.

I'm not going to get into an evolution debate on this thread, because it's not relevant to the topic, and also because I feel that you will not present nor accept a rational argument in such a discussion. Suffice it to say that your first three questions are based on false assumptions, and you wouldn't accept an honest answer to the fourth.

evolution is relevant to every topic you believe in my friend, it shapes your whole being, and for the love of tadpole spewing semi volcanic primordial tide pool how are these questions based on false assumptions, that really sounds like a state denial, try using your so called open mind to think outside the box or should I say the barrel of monkeys once in a while.As to No.4 I would love to know what you think the answer is.

Try it this way, please use your super liberal hypersonic imagination and think on this at every stage: once upon a time a slime pops up out of the sea yadayadayada million this billion that humans live in city's that they built? Now if you think on this with your S.L.H.I. on wide open mode like I have it should not take you more then a few 10's of minutes to see how crazy the cult of evolution is if you really do know how to use your God given reason.

Dang bro, did I not make it obvious that I believe that God created this planet in prefect orbit to be perfect and unique and the curse of our sin brought forth the seasons and ruined the perfectness of our paradise.

No, what you failed to do was recognize that our orbit is not perfect, that seasons have always existed, and that seasons are not caused by our orbit. I have no problem with you believing in God, but denying facts is not "faith".

I'm not going to get into an evolution debate on this thread, because it's not relevant to the topic, and also because I feel that you will not present nor accept a rational argument in such a discussion. Suffice it to say that your first three questions are based on false assumptions, and you wouldn't accept an honest answer to the fourth.

I used to think like you, brainwashed to see things only through the lenses of evolution.

I got a few questions for you that might help you:

No.1: why don't you believe in the catastrophe of a global flood when all the evidence that you evolutionists find for evolution ends up not pointing to evolution but to a global flood?

No.2: does it not seem queer to you that every time evolution is proving to be totally wrong in its assumptions that the so called scientists that are proving it wrong simply change the rules with out blinking an eye and say we are still right we will prove it?

No.3: why do you have so much faith in your faith when all the evidence in your faith turns out to be evidence for my faith?

No.4: to what power are the odds of another plant like this one existing?

I'm guessing that G.A.Phillips' "perfect orbit" is referring to the fact that the Earth is in an orbit around the sun which allows for the existence of water as a gas, liquid, and solid which greatly aids in the ability of our planet to support its current slew of life forms.

Actually, we're slightly outside of the liquid water zone. If it weren't for the fact that we have the amount of greenhouse gases that we do, the earth would be too cold for liquid water.

I'm no expert, but I thought I had read that astronomers were starting to find planets in other solar systems that appeared to have orbits that might support 3 phases of water.

Yes, he have been finding many planets with orbits in range of the liquid water zone, depending on the planet's makeup.

I'm no expert, but I thought I had read that astronomers were starting to find planets in other solar systems that appeared to have orbits that might support 3 phases of water. Maybe there are other perfect orbits out there?

By your logic, greenhouse gasses can’t possibly cause the Earth temperature to rise because the source of Earth’s heat is the sun not the chemicals in the atmosphere.

Greenhouse gases prevent cooling, they don't cause heating.

Temperature is a factor of heating and cooling, input and output of heat*. Reducing the input can decrease the temperature, but it does not change the rate of cooling, only the rate of heating.

Therefore, the Sun does not cause cooling, and greenhouse gases do not cause heating.

(*) We're probably arguing past each other here. I use "heating" to mean the transfer of energy (heat) into a system, where you seem to use it to mean the increase in temperature (average energy) of a system.

By your logic, greenhouse gasses can’t possibly cause the Earth temperature to rise because the source of Earth’s heat is the sun not the chemicals in the atmosphere. Most scientists would agree that greenhouse gasses could contribute to the warming or cooling of Earth even though the gasses themselves don’t create heat. The debate is how much of today’s temperatures are due to the greenhouse gasses and how much is due to the suns level of activity.

well for one thing there is no other like it

Um, every planet's orbit is like ours, because they're all governed by the same physics as ours. Or are you just using the anthropic principle to suggest an intended design?

what am I suppose to do give your unproven theory

You mean my theory about what causes seasons? Are you still questioning that?

What exactly is "perfect" about earth's orbit?

well for one thing there is no other like it and its the reason knuckleheads like you and me get to argue, thanks to God, so I guess you are right thats its not perfect but I do do know that it once was, man imagine what that was like.

My friend we are surrounded by death and decay, so I'm just trying to point the obvious truth where you guys get an idea and portray it as fact ill take fact and portray it as a better idea seeing that most of you only respect ideas.

what am I suppose to do give your unproven theory the absolute certainty that most of you do and arguing it with you like its has been tested to be flawless like you cold ever do that, or like I do, use your tactics and make fun of your faith to get you to see how you make me feel to have to try to explain something to you?

And Micheal you should no by now that because of my liberal upbringing that I always start out with good intentions and end up sounding like a wise ass get the last mock in jackass, so please forgive me if believe in that sort of thing.

please tell me where does winter come from.

It would be easier, and I think more productive in general, to just mock.

how come the earth spins perfectly

What exactly is "perfect" about earth's orbit?

And are you saying if we turn off the sun this plant is going go doing what it does in the sun less vacuum of space.

Astronomically, yes. Biologically, not so much.

So shutting off a heat source can and often does results (plays a role) in the cooling of an object.

In lay conversation it's semantics, in scientific conversation it's an important distinction.