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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/goldfarb_and_mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-396241</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Goldfarb = is a failure, he should be on trial for treason. 

SCUMBAG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Goldfarb = is a failure, he should be on trial for treason. </p>
<p>SCUMBAG</p>
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		<title>By: Sonny Bunch &#187; Goldfarb, McCain, and the media</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/goldfarb_and_mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-396062</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonny Bunch &#187; Goldfarb, McCain, and the media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at the Scene. Lefty reaction has been hyper and vitriolic, and the libertarian reaction has been annoying and longwinded.* Gee, a conservative politician would hire someone with knowledge of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at the Scene. Lefty reaction has been hyper and vitriolic, and the libertarian reaction has been annoying and longwinded.* Gee, a conservative politician would hire someone with knowledge of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dantheman</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/goldfarb_and_mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-395695</link>
		<dc:creator>Dantheman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Funny they didn&#039;t so rule while FDR was running the place. Or perhaps not so funny when you consider the concept of packing.&quot;

Sorry, but repeating the trope that FDR was a dictator, without offering the slightest proof, doesn&#039;t constitute an argument that can convince any of us whose heads can process more than one bit at a time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Funny they didn't so rule while FDR was running the place. Or perhaps not so funny when you consider the concept of packing."</p>
<p>Sorry, but repeating the trope that FDR was a dictator, without offering the slightest proof, doesn't constitute an argument that can convince any of us whose heads can process more than one bit at a time.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/goldfarb_and_mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-395593</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Seems an odd time for you to suddenly be so concerned about freedom. Your perception thereof seems a little selective.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, I have been concerned about Bush&#039;s &quot;Operation End American Freedom&quot; for many years. When Clinton was president, I spoke up about his policies that eroded personal freedom as well. You might have missed all this while you were obsessing about Vince Foster...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Seems an odd time for you to suddenly be so concerned about freedom. Your perception thereof seems a little selective.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, I have been concerned about Bush's "Operation End American Freedom" for many years. When Clinton was president, I spoke up about his policies that eroded personal freedom as well. You might have missed all this while you were obsessing about Vince Foster...</p>
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		<title>By: seriouslypolitics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wednesday Goldfarb Bashing</title>
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		<dc:creator>seriouslypolitics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wednesday Goldfarb Bashing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with the news that The Weekly Standard&#8217;s Michael Goldfarb is off to the McCain campaign, got challenged on it by James Joyner, and offered this nice reply:  What Radley Balko said, I guess, though let me add [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with the news that The Weekly Standard&#8217;s Michael Goldfarb is off to the McCain campaign, got challenged on it by James Joyner, and offered this nice reply:  What Radley Balko said, I guess, though let me add [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/goldfarb_and_mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-395386</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Um, where on earth do you derive that?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The words &#039;during wartime&#039; keep disappearing.  Changes the whole tenor of the discussion.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Since the Supreme Court held that the President does not have dictatorial powers during wartime, do you have any response other than pettifogging?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Funny they didn&#039;t so rule while FDR was running the place. Or perhaps not so funny when you consider the concept of packing.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Welcome to the sweet land of not very much liberty. Of thee I sing, assuming I have permission to do so.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Seems an odd time for you to suddenly be so concerned about freedom. Your perception thereof seems a little selective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Um, where on earth do you derive that?</p></blockquote>
<p>The words 'during wartime' keep disappearing.  Changes the whole tenor of the discussion.</p>
<blockquote><p>Since the Supreme Court held that the President does not have dictatorial powers during wartime, do you have any response other than pettifogging?</p></blockquote>
<p>Funny they didn't so rule while FDR was running the place. Or perhaps not so funny when you consider the concept of packing.</p>
<blockquote><p>Welcome to the sweet land of not very much liberty. Of thee I sing, assuming I have permission to do so.</p></blockquote>
<p>Seems an odd time for you to suddenly be so concerned about freedom. Your perception thereof seems a little selective.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait to hear who Senator Obama has hired as his new pastor.</description>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/goldfarb_and_mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-394301</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;His opinions on the scope of presidential power are therefore irrelevant&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not really. If a presidential candidate hires people who think that the president should be a dictator or the next best thing, well it tells you something about how the candidate sees the role of the president.

As for the &quot;during wartime&quot; BS, well the cold war lasted 40 odd years, and the neocons have made it clear that they expect the WOT to go on the better part of forever. 

Welcome to the sweet land of not very much liberty. Of thee I sing, assuming I have permission to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>His opinions on the scope of presidential power are therefore irrelevant</p></blockquote>
<p>Not really. If a presidential candidate hires people who think that the president should be a dictator or the next best thing, well it tells you something about how the candidate sees the role of the president.</p>
<p>As for the "during wartime" BS, well the cold war lasted 40 odd years, and the neocons have made it clear that they expect the WOT to go on the better part of forever. </p>
<p>Welcome to the sweet land of not very much liberty. Of thee I sing, assuming I have permission to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Dantheman</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/goldfarb_and_mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-394288</link>
		<dc:creator>Dantheman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The implication here, was that the president should have dictitorial powers at ALL times, which was clearly not the case.&quot;

Since the Supreme Court held that the President does not have dictatorial powers during wartime, do you have any response other than pettifogging?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"The implication here, was that the president should have dictitorial powers at ALL times, which was clearly not the case."</p>
<p>Since the Supreme Court held that the President does not have dictatorial powers during wartime, do you have any response other than pettifogging?</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Hey, who was the one who brought up dictators, anyway?&lt;/em&gt;

Um, actually no.  That would be Michael Goldfarb&#039;s assertion that the president has near dictatorial powers.  I didn&#039;t bring it up, I only think it sends a chill down my spine and I&#039;m left aghast that James doesn&#039;t think there&#039;s any issue here with him being the deputy communications director of McCain&#039;s campaign.

I must say, you&#039;re the master of the circular argument.  You said &quot;three letters, F D R&quot; without any explanation.  When pressed for an explanation, you sent a simple google search URL.  When pressed further, you simply quoted the titles of some of the pieces.  When pressed further for an explanation, you simply played &quot;rubber and glue&quot; like we&#039;re on some third grade playground.  It&#039;s just bizarre that you think you&#039;re actually forming a coherent argument.

&lt;em&gt;The implication here, was that the president should have dictitorial powers at ALL times, which was clearly not the case.&lt;/em&gt;

Um, where on earth do you derive that?  Any quote in the comment stream above that you&#039;d like to share with us?  Again, please note that Michael Goldfarb&#039;s quote was the source of &quot;dictatorial&quot;, not anyone else&#039;s.  And here&#039;s the full quote in context:&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pam Hess, the UPI reporter who gave us this extremely moving and persuasive glimpse of the liberal case for the war in Iraq, asked if timetables for withdrawal &quot;somehow infringe on the president&#039;s powers as commander in chief?&quot; Mitchell&#039;s less than persuasive answer: &quot;Congress is a coequal branch of government...the framers did not want to have one branch in charge of the government.&quot;

True enough, but they sought an energetic executive with near dictatorial power in pursuing foreign policy and war. So no, the Constitution does not put Congress on an equal footing with the executive in matters of national security.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Hey, who was the one who brought up dictators, anyway?</em></p>
<p>Um, actually no.  That would be Michael Goldfarb's assertion that the president has near dictatorial powers.  I didn't bring it up, I only think it sends a chill down my spine and I'm left aghast that James doesn't think there's any issue here with him being the deputy communications director of McCain's campaign.</p>
<p>I must say, you're the master of the circular argument.  You said "three letters, F D R" without any explanation.  When pressed for an explanation, you sent a simple google search URL.  When pressed further, you simply quoted the titles of some of the pieces.  When pressed further for an explanation, you simply played "rubber and glue" like we're on some third grade playground.  It's just bizarre that you think you're actually forming a coherent argument.</p>
<p><em>The implication here, was that the president should have dictitorial powers at ALL times, which was clearly not the case.</em></p>
<p>Um, where on earth do you derive that?  Any quote in the comment stream above that you'd like to share with us?  Again, please note that Michael Goldfarb's quote was the source of "dictatorial", not anyone else's.  And here's the full quote in context:<br />
<blockquote><em>Pam Hess, the UPI reporter who gave us this extremely moving and persuasive glimpse of the liberal case for the war in Iraq, asked if timetables for withdrawal "somehow infringe on the president's powers as commander in chief?" Mitchell's less than persuasive answer: "Congress is a coequal branch of government...the framers did not want to have one branch in charge of the government."</p>
<p>True enough, but they sought an energetic executive with near dictatorial power in pursuing foreign policy and war. So no, the Constitution does not put Congress on an equal footing with the executive in matters of national security.</em></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/goldfarb_and_mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-394251</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The implication here, was that the president should have dictitorial powers at ALL times, which was clearly not the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The implication here, was that the president should have dictitorial powers at ALL times, which was clearly not the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Dantheman</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/goldfarb_and_mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-394149</link>
		<dc:creator>Dantheman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bithead,

&quot;I note &quot;During wartime&quot; is a phrase that has gotten lost somehow.  Mind explaining why?&quot;

Because most of us are aware that the Korean War was fought during wartime.  Why aren&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bithead,</p>
<p>"I note "During wartime" is a phrase that has gotten lost somehow.  Mind explaining why?"</p>
<p>Because most of us are aware that the Korean War was fought during wartime.  Why aren't you?</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/goldfarb_and_mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-394123</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Also, can I ask wtf does FDR have to do with the issue in question?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hey, who was the one who brought up dictators, anyway?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Indeed. Something that cuts right to the heart of Bithead&#039;s seeming argument that the president has near dictatorial powers and how that is such a great thing for McCain.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I note &quot;During wartime&quot; is a phrase that has gotten lost somehow. Mind explaining why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Also, can I ask wtf does FDR have to do with the issue in question?</p></blockquote>
<p>Hey, who was the one who brought up dictators, anyway?</p>
<blockquote><p>Indeed. Something that cuts right to the heart of Bithead's seeming argument that the president has near dictatorial powers and how that is such a great thing for McCain.</p></blockquote>
<p>I note "During wartime" is a phrase that has gotten lost somehow. Mind explaining why?</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not the one making the argument - whatever that argument actually is...

&quot;Burden of proof&quot;.  It&#039;s a phrase you&#039;ll hear now and then.  You should understand where the burden lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm not the one making the argument - whatever that argument actually is...</p>
<p>"Burden of proof".  It's a phrase you'll hear now and then.  You should understand where the burden lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Did you actually read any of those articles, or did you merely just see &quot;dictator&quot; and assume that it made your case for you&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s clear YOU haven&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Did you actually read any of those articles, or did you merely just see "dictator" and assume that it made your case for you</p></blockquote>
<p>It's clear YOU haven't.</p>
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