How can someone be considered good if the only reason they're honest is because they're forced into it?

The point is not to tempt them by making it easy to be dishonest.

If you stand your ground and defend your rights you may get charged with assault with a deadly weapon.

Not here in Florida, you don't even have to try and get away from them first.

We discussed the current philosophy of calling "911" when you are awakened in the middle of the night and having them tell you "go run to a closet and hide." If you stand your ground and defend your rights you may get charged with assault with a deadly weapon. Excuse me, I am going to grab my 12 gauge shotgun and 1911 45 Caliber ACP and stand my ground. I have been shot at before and a couple of dope-using, mentally deficient, social misfits does not diminish my desire or ability to defend my rights.

The bottom line:
I had rather walk out of a court room after being judged by twelve of my peers than be carried out of Church by eight of my friends.

Wasn't it Frost who suggested good fences make good neighbors?

And that is the point of this debate; it is not about a hunk of metal you hold in your hand. It is about your right to feel safe and secure, establish limits to violent personal intrusion, and give you the peace of mind that you are not a completely helpless human being.

The greatest intrusion I feel comes from the government.

"All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The Communist Party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party." Mao Tse Tung.(1938)

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms." Adolf Hitler. (1942)

Sounds like our present-day democrats and liberals.

How can someone be considered good if the only reason they're honest is because they're forced into it?

Wasn't it Frost who suggested good fences make good neighbors?

I don't think the gun-free zones were ever intended to stop somebody who was intent on using his guns in those zones. It was meant to stop those people who may decide to use their weapon on impulse, because it is conveniently available.

.... even in defense. And we now understand the consequences of that non-thinking.

It's like they say about door locks, they don't keep bad people out, they just keep good people honest.

How can someone be considered good if the only reason they're honest is because they're forced into it?

Perhaps were the anti-gun types to explain to us how 'gun free zones' have prevented thugs from using guns inside them in places like Virginia Tech and so on, they might actually have a case.

I don't think the gun-free zones were ever intended to stop somebody who was intent on using his guns in those zones. It was meant to stop those people who may decide to use their weapon on impulse, because it is conveniently available.

It's like they say about door locks, they don't keep bad people out, they just keep good people honest.

(Please note: I'm not taking a position on whether such zones are good or bad, effective or not.)

What a silly nanny goat. Mayor Fenty said specifically that the rulling means guns in the home, not in the street. No carrying guns in the street.

Just as the Chief of Police's declaration that our gang's will henceforth be called Crews, has lessened the amount of gang crime in the District, Fenty's proclamation of no guns in the street will mean a lessening of gun deaths, because, at the moment, so many gun deaths occur in the street.

I mean, y'know, she can't be wrong about it or anything like that.