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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/haditha_massacre_coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-84579</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 05:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few more points from Murthaâ��s MEET THE PRESS interview.
Remember now, this was at the beginning of March.

He claimed Iraq has a sixty percent unemployment rate.
Of course it&#039;s another&lt;a href=&quot;http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8101422/site/newsweek&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; lie&lt;/a&gt;, itâ��s closer to 18%-20%.  	Murtha claimed  only 30% of people are getting fresh water.  That&#039;s a lie on it&#039;s face, else we&#039;d have a lot more dead Iraqis. And had the good Senator bothered to check the facts as supplied by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/accomplishments/watsan.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;USAID&lt;/a&gt;, he&#039;d have found USAID  restored water treatment to 4 million urban Iraqis and sewage treatment to 4.4 million.

Now, Anji, repeat after me:
&quot;Thank you sir, may I have another?&quot;

I can keep this up all night, if you&#039;d like... and these are examples from only one... count &#039;em... ONE interview.

Face it, Anji; Murtha&#039;s a demonstrated liar several times over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few more points from Murthaâ��s MEET THE PRESS interview.<br />
Remember now, this was at the beginning of March.</p>
<p>He claimed Iraq has a sixty percent unemployment rate.<br />
Of course it's another<a href="http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8101422/site/newsweek" rel="nofollow"> lie</a>, itâ��s closer to 18%-20%.  	Murtha claimed  only 30% of people are getting fresh water.  That's a lie on it's face, else we'd have a lot more dead Iraqis. And had the good Senator bothered to check the facts as supplied by <a href="http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/accomplishments/watsan.html" rel="nofollow">USAID</a>, he'd have found USAID  restored water treatment to 4 million urban Iraqis and sewage treatment to 4.4 million.</p>
<p>Now, Anji, repeat after me:<br />
"Thank you sir, may I have another?"</p>
<p>I can keep this up all night, if you'd like... and these are examples from only one... count 'em... ONE interview.</p>
<p>Face it, Anji; Murtha's a demonstrated liar several times over.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/haditha_massacre_coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-84578</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 05:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I am absolutely convinced that we are making no progress at all.&quot;

That&#039;s dishonest John  Murtha, on MEET THE PRESS, as regards Iraq.

No progress at all? Iraq has voted repeatedly, has produced a constitution, Sunnis are being drawn into the political process. They ahve a permanant government. The Iraqi Army has many batallions that have already taken the lead role in security operations.

So, here Anjisan, you have a choice. Murtha is either an idiot, or a liar. Which will you have?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"I am absolutely convinced that we are making no progress at all."</p>
<p>That's dishonest John  Murtha, on MEET THE PRESS, as regards Iraq.</p>
<p>No progress at all? Iraq has voted repeatedly, has produced a constitution, Sunnis are being drawn into the political process. They ahve a permanant government. The Iraqi Army has many batallions that have already taken the lead role in security operations.</p>
<p>So, here Anjisan, you have a choice. Murtha is either an idiot, or a liar. Which will you have?</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/haditha_massacre_coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-84577</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 05:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anji;

So, he hasn&#039;t been claiming war crimes repeatedly, and been proven wrong on all but one count, so far?

(And by the way, the most recent edition, the jurys not back yet on?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anji;</p>
<p>So, he hasn't been claiming war crimes repeatedly, and been proven wrong on all but one count, so far?</p>
<p>(And by the way, the most recent edition, the jurys not back yet on?)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Milner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Milner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 00:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that sound of the fan being impacted? No wonder you guys are in denial. You just have no firm place to stand. The government lie through their teeth, the media disseminate the lies and propaganda. The police are most definitely not your friend. When you finally wake up to these obvious truths, you&#039;ll wonder why it took so long for that coffee smell to penetrate your collective consciousness. Nice neutral Buddhist country anyone? 
P.S. Thanks for the spell check facility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that sound of the fan being impacted? No wonder you guys are in denial. You just have no firm place to stand. The government lie through their teeth, the media disseminate the lies and propaganda. The police are most definitely not your friend. When you finally wake up to these obvious truths, you'll wonder why it took so long for that coffee smell to penetrate your collective consciousness. Nice neutral Buddhist country anyone?<br />
P.S. Thanks for the spell check facility.</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/haditha_massacre_coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-84392</link>
		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 15:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...and the people who cheer them on while hiding behind a computer.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Bithead has a blog from which he can be contacted. I use my real name. The only person hiding behind a computer in this conversation is you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>...and the people who cheer them on while hiding behind a computer.</p></blockquote>
<p>Bithead has a blog from which he can be contacted. I use my real name. The only person hiding behind a computer in this conversation is you.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 07:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bit,

Still wating for proof Murtha is a liar...  waiting... waiting...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bit,</p>
<p>Still wating for proof Murtha is a liar...  waiting... waiting...</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/haditha_massacre_coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-84360</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 02:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It would be fun to see Bit call this decorated combat vet a liar to his face and proceed to get bitch-slapped.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;d call the idiot a liar to his face, every single time.

Tell us, Anji... how many times have we seen Murtha beatiung the &#039;war crimes&#039; drum, falsely?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It would be fun to see Bit call this decorated combat vet a liar to his face and proceed to get bitch-slapped.</p></blockquote>
<p>I'd call the idiot a liar to his face, every single time.</p>
<p>Tell us, Anji... how many times have we seen Murtha beatiung the 'war crimes' drum, falsely?</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/haditha_massacre_coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-84358</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 02:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On Murtha: It is impossible for any one to be wrong all the time, no matter how hard they try.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

True.

But similarly, it&#039;s a fool that continuously bets on a horse with no wins to his record, in the hopes of pulling out the longshot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On Murtha: It is impossible for any one to be wrong all the time, no matter how hard they try.</p></blockquote>
<p>True.</p>
<p>But similarly, it's a fool that continuously bets on a horse with no wins to his record, in the hopes of pulling out the longshot.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 19:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McGhee,

Maybe I am just fed up with smear attacks on combat vets, as well as real acts of violence against innocents in Iraq.  Oh yes, and the people who cheer them on while hiding behind a computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McGhee,</p>
<p>Maybe I am just fed up with smear attacks on combat vets, as well as real acts of violence against innocents in Iraq.  Oh yes, and the people who cheer them on while hiding behind a computer.</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 18:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again we are treated to Anjin&#039;s fantasies of witnessing acts of violence against people with whom he disagrees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again we are treated to Anjin's fantasies of witnessing acts of violence against people with whom he disagrees.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 06:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I note that Bithead has not provided one shread of evidence to back up his claim that Murtha is a liar.

It would be fun to see Bit call this decorated combat vet a liar to his face and proceed to get bitch-slapped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note that Bithead has not provided one shread of evidence to back up his claim that Murtha is a liar.</p>
<p>It would be fun to see Bit call this decorated combat vet a liar to his face and proceed to get bitch-slapped.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Kellogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Kellogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 05:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Murtha: It is impossible for any one to be wrong all the time, no matter how hard they try.

On Habitha: Let us hope the investigation is done well and done diligently. That it discovers the perpetrators and the motivations for their actions. Furthermore, that the appropriate punishment is meted out, up to and including the death penalty if that be warranted.

Yes, things like this happen during war. That does not mean we should not seek to find and punish those involved. The fact you cannot stop mistakes from being made is no reason to not correct mistakes when you can. Here we have an opportunity to correct an error, let us take full advantage of it.

From what I&#039;ve heard I suspect the unit in question was led by a bigot and egotist who inculcated his bigotry into his men. While the unit&#039;s personnel were, in a word, so full of themselves and their innate superiority over mere sand niggers they saw justification in slaughtering them all and letting God sort them out.

I suspect the U. S. Marine Corp is going to be taking a hard look at their junior officers and making a radical change in officer training and psychological evaluations. Expect a lot more than just those immediately culpable to get burned by this incident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Murtha: It is impossible for any one to be wrong all the time, no matter how hard they try.</p>
<p>On Habitha: Let us hope the investigation is done well and done diligently. That it discovers the perpetrators and the motivations for their actions. Furthermore, that the appropriate punishment is meted out, up to and including the death penalty if that be warranted.</p>
<p>Yes, things like this happen during war. That does not mean we should not seek to find and punish those involved. The fact you cannot stop mistakes from being made is no reason to not correct mistakes when you can. Here we have an opportunity to correct an error, let us take full advantage of it.</p>
<p>From what I've heard I suspect the unit in question was led by a bigot and egotist who inculcated his bigotry into his men. While the unit's personnel were, in a word, so full of themselves and their innate superiority over mere sand niggers they saw justification in slaughtering them all and letting God sort them out.</p>
<p>I suspect the U. S. Marine Corp is going to be taking a hard look at their junior officers and making a radical change in officer training and psychological evaluations. Expect a lot more than just those immediately culpable to get burned by this incident.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 02:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;COL Murtha (Ret.) is a decorated veteran, former Marine, with 37 years active duty service. I think heâ��s speaking from his heart when he says the war was a mistake.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Perhaps. I doubt it. But you may note that I don&#039;t give that much credit, in the end... any more than I gave Kerry.

The reason? Even assuming they&#039;re that stupid to actually beleive the tripe they come up with... they&#039;re still demonstrably wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>COL Murtha (Ret.) is a decorated veteran, former Marine, with 37 years active duty service. I think heâ��s speaking from his heart when he says the war was a mistake.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps. I doubt it. But you may note that I don't give that much credit, in the end... any more than I gave Kerry.</p>
<p>The reason? Even assuming they're that stupid to actually beleive the tripe they come up with... they're still demonstrably wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 01:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Official: Evidence in criminal probe of Iraqi deaths points toward murder by Marines...&lt;/strong&gt;

Military investigators probing the deaths last November of about two dozen Iraqi civilians have evid...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Official: Evidence in criminal probe of Iraqi deaths points toward murder by Marines...</strong></p>
<p>Military investigators probing the deaths last November of about two dozen Iraqi civilians have evid...</p>
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		<title>By: DC Loser</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC Loser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 May 2006 21:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>COL Murtha (Ret.) is a decorated veteran, former Marine, with 37 years active duty service.  I think he&#039;s speaking from his heart when he says the war was a mistake.  I don&#039;t think any rational person out there can say he hates this country and the USMC.   FWIW, I think he&#039;s more qualified to be a judge of the situation than you are, if only you&#039;d take your political blinder off for a second.  But that&#039;d be asking too much, I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COL Murtha (Ret.) is a decorated veteran, former Marine, with 37 years active duty service.  I think he's speaking from his heart when he says the war was a mistake.  I don't think any rational person out there can say he hates this country and the USMC.   FWIW, I think he's more qualified to be a judge of the situation than you are, if only you'd take your political blinder off for a second.  But that'd be asking too much, I know.</p>
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