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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/haggling_over_haggling/comment-page-1/#comment-363868</link>
		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 15:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, I take your point, but even &lt;em&gt;with highly specialized people who have a much more keen understanding of the values&lt;/em&gt; it is still more art than science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, I take your point, but even <em>with highly specialized people who have a much more keen understanding of the values</em> it is still more art than science.</p>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/haggling_over_haggling/comment-page-1/#comment-363846</link>
		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 15:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Saturn method of fixed pricing gives everyone what amounts to an x-plan price on their cars.
This saves the non-negotiator a lot of money, taken directly from the pockets of the negotiator.
I have not and will never buy a car with this sort of marketing strategy.
 Saturn even puts fixed prices on used cars,and there are no two alike.No thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Saturn method of fixed pricing gives everyone what amounts to an x-plan price on their cars.<br />
This saves the non-negotiator a lot of money, taken directly from the pockets of the negotiator.<br />
I have not and will never buy a car with this sort of marketing strategy.<br />
 Saturn even puts fixed prices on used cars,and there are no two alike.No thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 14:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If today&#039;s tomatoes aren&#039;t looking so great, why should I pay the price charged for perfect tomatoes? If I&#039;m willing to put up with some defect in a car/shirt/refrigerator for a lower price, I believe I&#039;m competent to make the contract.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sure. In the fixed price world, we do that with multiple stores with, say, outlet malls and TJ Maxx mostly selling the seconds. Although I&#039;ve certainly bought marked down refrigerators which had dents and so forth.  But, yes, there&#039;s an efficiency in those cases to being able to negotiate the price.

&lt;blockquote&gt;In the business to business world we call it negotiating, and it goes on all the time.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

True.  But that&#039;s a transaction between highly specialized people who have a much more keen understanding of the values than a foreign tourist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If today's tomatoes aren't looking so great, why should I pay the price charged for perfect tomatoes? If I'm willing to put up with some defect in a car/shirt/refrigerator for a lower price, I believe I'm competent to make the contract.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sure. In the fixed price world, we do that with multiple stores with, say, outlet malls and TJ Maxx mostly selling the seconds. Although I've certainly bought marked down refrigerators which had dents and so forth.  But, yes, there's an efficiency in those cases to being able to negotiate the price.</p>
<blockquote><p>In the business to business world we call it negotiating, and it goes on all the time.</p></blockquote>
<p>True.  But that's a transaction between highly specialized people who have a much more keen understanding of the values than a foreign tourist.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/haggling_over_haggling/comment-page-1/#comment-363793</link>
		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 14:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the business to business world we call it negotiating, and it goes on all the time.  In fact, it is extremely rare that someone just says, &quot;Sure, whatever it costs.&quot; Haggling, negotiating, whatever you want to call it, only supports a specific set of retail transactions.

Another prespective is offered by Wal-Mart which haggles/negotiates with its suppliers but not with its customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the business to business world we call it negotiating, and it goes on all the time.  In fact, it is extremely rare that someone just says, "Sure, whatever it costs." Haggling, negotiating, whatever you want to call it, only supports a specific set of retail transactions.</p>
<p>Another prespective is offered by Wal-Mart which haggles/negotiates with its suppliers but not with its customers.</p>
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		<title>By: John Burgess</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 14:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps I&#039;ve lived in &#039;haggling societies&#039; too long, but I certainly don&#039;t find it offensive, nor particularly inefficient.

Rather than have someone tell me what something is worth--take it or leave it--I&#039;d much rather be able to argue from the the point of what it&#039;s worth to me. Sometimes I end up &#039;overpaying&#039;, i.e., paying more than the item&#039;s cost + reasonable profit. Sometimes I don&#039;t. I guess that&#039;s inefficient to some extent. But I feel I come out on top far more often than otherwise.

If today&#039;s tomatoes aren&#039;t looking so great, why should I pay the price charged for perfect tomatoes? If I&#039;m willing to put up with some defect in a car/shirt/refrigerator for a lower price, I believe I&#039;m competent to make the contract.

Now, I don&#039;t want to &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; to haggle over every damn thing; fixed prices do have their place. But I certainly do enjoy the give-and-take, particularly when I know that both I and the seller think we struck a good deal...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I've lived in 'haggling societies' too long, but I certainly don't find it offensive, nor particularly inefficient.</p>
<p>Rather than have someone tell me what something is worth--take it or leave it--I'd much rather be able to argue from the the point of what it's worth to me. Sometimes I end up 'overpaying', i.e., paying more than the item's cost + reasonable profit. Sometimes I don't. I guess that's inefficient to some extent. But I feel I come out on top far more often than otherwise.</p>
<p>If today's tomatoes aren't looking so great, why should I pay the price charged for perfect tomatoes? If I'm willing to put up with some defect in a car/shirt/refrigerator for a lower price, I believe I'm competent to make the contract.</p>
<p>Now, I don't want to <i>have</i> to haggle over every damn thing; fixed prices do have their place. But I certainly do enjoy the give-and-take, particularly when I know that both I and the seller think we struck a good deal...</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 13:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Parasite class.&quot; Heh. That&#039;s going to win you some friends in the realty community, true or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Parasite class." Heh. That's going to win you some friends in the realty community, true or not.</p>
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