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		<title>By: JadeGold</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/hanging_chads_redux/comment-page-1/#comment-6038</link>
		<dc:creator>JadeGold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Ignoring the law in service of an unwritten higher principle--when doing so has the ability to change the outcome of the election far more than the potential errors in the voting process--seems unreasonable to me.&lt;/i&gt;

Hahahahaha.

&lt;i&gt;This&lt;/i&gt; from a defender of &lt;i&gt;Bush v Gore&lt;/i&gt;?

I&#039;m sure I&#039;m misunderstanding something; perhaps the &#039;unreasonableness&#039; lies in the fact it&#039;s not benefitting a Repug?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Ignoring the law in service of an unwritten higher principle--when doing so has the ability to change the outcome of the election far more than the potential errors in the voting process--seems unreasonable to me.</i></p>
<p>Hahahahaha.</p>
<p><i>This</i> from a defender of <i>Bush v Gore</i>?</p>
<p>I'm sure I'm misunderstanding something; perhaps the 'unreasonableness' lies in the fact it's not benefitting a Repug?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The actual ACLU argument came down to this:

Minorities are too stupid to vote with a punch ballot.  

And the Left is PROUD of this argument?  

The argument is NOT that punchcard ballots are inherently wrong.  It isn&#039;t that there could be misinterpretation on how to count the ballot. It&#039;s that one subset of people are too stupid to use them and would therefore &quot;lose&quot; their vote, so we need to postpone the election until other equipment is being put in place.

And who Trent Lott said was racist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The actual ACLU argument came down to this:</p>
<p>Minorities are too stupid to vote with a punch ballot.  </p>
<p>And the Left is PROUD of this argument?  </p>
<p>The argument is NOT that punchcard ballots are inherently wrong.  It isn't that there could be misinterpretation on how to count the ballot. It's that one subset of people are too stupid to use them and would therefore "lose" their vote, so we need to postpone the election until other equipment is being put in place.</p>
<p>And who Trent Lott said was racist?</p>
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		<title>By: Biff</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/hanging_chads_redux/comment-page-1/#comment-6040</link>
		<dc:creator>Biff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I&#039;d also point out, again, that these same facts obtained in November 2002 when Davis was elected.&lt;/i&gt;

James, the ACLU has been unhappy with punch-card voting machines since December 2000, when they filed their original suit.  But what were they supposed to do, ask that the November 2002 California elections be delayed until March 2004?  That would be completely infeasible.  We can all debate whether the recall should be delayed 5 months (I don&#039;t think it should) but it&#039;s clearly much more feasible to do.

&lt;i&gt;The actual ACLU argument came down to this:&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Minorities are too stupid to vote with a punch ballot.&lt;/i&gt;

No, anonymous, that&#039;s a strawman.  The ACLU&#039;s argument is that punch-card systems generate more uncountable votes &lt;i&gt;regardless of who&#039;s using them&lt;/i&gt;, but the fact that they are used mostly in counties with high minority populations means minorities will be &quot;discriminated&quot; against.  I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any validity to inserting the racial angle into the argument, but that is what they really argued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I'd also point out, again, that these same facts obtained in November 2002 when Davis was elected.</i></p>
<p>James, the ACLU has been unhappy with punch-card voting machines since December 2000, when they filed their original suit.  But what were they supposed to do, ask that the November 2002 California elections be delayed until March 2004?  That would be completely infeasible.  We can all debate whether the recall should be delayed 5 months (I don't think it should) but it's clearly much more feasible to do.</p>
<p><i>The actual ACLU argument came down to this:</i></p>
<p><i>Minorities are too stupid to vote with a punch ballot.</i></p>
<p>No, anonymous, that's a strawman.  The ACLU's argument is that punch-card systems generate more uncountable votes <i>regardless of who's using them</i>, but the fact that they are used mostly in counties with high minority populations means minorities will be "discriminated" against.  I don't think there's any validity to inserting the racial angle into the argument, but that is what they really argued.</p>
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		<title>By: d-rod</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/hanging_chads_redux/comment-page-1/#comment-6041</link>
		<dc:creator>d-rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minorities are always discriminated against in California. Everyone is a minority. My constitutional right to an election within 80 days may be abridged by some unelected wacko court. They can go fuck themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minorities are always discriminated against in California. Everyone is a minority. My constitutional right to an election within 80 days may be abridged by some unelected wacko court. They can go fuck themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: PoliBlog</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/hanging_chads_redux/comment-page-1/#comment-6042</link>
		<dc:creator>PoliBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Commentary on the Ninth Circuit Decision&lt;/strong&gt;
Both Daniel Drezner and James of OTB provide some worthwhile commentary on the Ninth Circuit decision in CA....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Commentary on the Ninth Circuit Decision</strong><br />
Both Daniel Drezner and James of OTB provide some worthwhile commentary on the Ninth Circuit decision in CA....</p>
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		<title>By: Insults Unpunished</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/hanging_chads_redux/comment-page-1/#comment-6043</link>
		<dc:creator>Insults Unpunished</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A Little Too Tired For Blogging&lt;/strong&gt;
Today isn&#039;t the day for me to blog. Just a little too tired. It&#039;s not that there&#039;s nothing going on...

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Today isn't the day for me to blog. Just a little too tired. It's not that there's nothing going on...</p>
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