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	<title>Comments on: Harry Potter Best Fantasy Series Ever?</title>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 01:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not even close, I find the potter books very copied boring and unoriginal and the movies in the same way lacking, but here are some of my favorite authors. and my candidates for best fantasy series ever.    

Michael Moorcock, Elric saga,a true study of evil and evil.
 
Douglas Adams, hitchhikers, dude you got your towel?
  
  
Robert Asprin, Myth Adventures,its probably one of the funniest and most well developed multiple character driven things I think you will ever read.

Joel Rosenberg,the Guardians of the flame, yes deep down I wish D&amp;D was real!!


Gene Wolfe, the book of the new sun, for just being of literary value.

Stephen Donaldson,  Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, for shear mind blowing vividness of description along the journey.
 
Roger Zelazny, the Chronicles of amber, for best dis-functional family!

David Eddings, The Belgariad and The Malloreon, for best sweeping epics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not even close, I find the potter books very copied boring and unoriginal and the movies in the same way lacking, but here are some of my favorite authors. and my candidates for best fantasy series ever.    </p>
<p>Michael Moorcock, Elric saga,a true study of evil and evil.</p>
<p>Douglas Adams, hitchhikers, dude you got your towel?</p>
<p>Robert Asprin, Myth Adventures,its probably one of the funniest and most well developed multiple character driven things I think you will ever read.</p>
<p>Joel Rosenberg,the Guardians of the flame, yes deep down I wish D&amp;D was real!!</p>
<p>Gene Wolfe, the book of the new sun, for just being of literary value.</p>
<p>Stephen Donaldson,  Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, for shear mind blowing vividness of description along the journey.</p>
<p>Roger Zelazny, the Chronicles of amber, for best dis-functional family!</p>
<p>David Eddings, The Belgariad and The Malloreon, for best sweeping epics.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;but I view the series as more entertainment than literary work&lt;/em&gt;

Sure, but then, how much fantasy has literary value?  LeGuin, Vance, some Zelazny (my age is showing).  Ditto SF.

As series go, the Potter books sustain interest pretty well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>but I view the series as more entertainment than literary work</em></p>
<p>Sure, but then, how much fantasy has literary value?  LeGuin, Vance, some Zelazny (my age is showing).  Ditto SF.</p>
<p>As series go, the Potter books sustain interest pretty well.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It depends on what you mean by best.  It is certainly the most popular and has a relatively unique ability to appeal to a broader range of people than just about anything I can think of, starting with pre-teens.

I don&#039;t think J. K. Rowling was writing for the approval of Harold Bloom.  She wouldn&#039;t have minded his approval, but getting his approval and reaching so many people are probably contradictory aims.  Sometimes, such criticism reminds me of Professor Gilderoy Lockhart, whose fame rested on the risks and achievements of others.

I liked it.  My kids liked it.  I doubt that when I die I will have read it as often as I have The Lord of the Rings, the Foundation Trilogy, Dune, etc., but that&#039;s a matter of taste.  Maybe having kids of the right age has a strong influence on how much you appreciate the series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It depends on what you mean by best.  It is certainly the most popular and has a relatively unique ability to appeal to a broader range of people than just about anything I can think of, starting with pre-teens.</p>
<p>I don't think J. K. Rowling was writing for the approval of Harold Bloom.  She wouldn't have minded his approval, but getting his approval and reaching so many people are probably contradictory aims.  Sometimes, such criticism reminds me of Professor Gilderoy Lockhart, whose fame rested on the risks and achievements of others.</p>
<p>I liked it.  My kids liked it.  I doubt that when I die I will have read it as often as I have The Lord of the Rings, the Foundation Trilogy, Dune, etc., but that's a matter of taste.  Maybe having kids of the right age has a strong influence on how much you appreciate the series.</p>
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		<title>By: another matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>another matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tolkien and Rowling should not even appear together in the same sentence...dolh!

Maybe I am just a Sci/Fi/Fantasy snob, but I don&#039;t consider the Potter series as serious Fantasy.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;m glad Rowling wrote them and that young adults today are actually reading something as a result, but I view the series as more entertainment than literary work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tolkien and Rowling should not even appear together in the same sentence...dolh!</p>
<p>Maybe I am just a Sci/Fi/Fantasy snob, but I don't consider the Potter series as serious Fantasy.  Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Rowling wrote them and that young adults today are actually reading something as a result, but I view the series as more entertainment than literary work.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read lots of fantasy, particularly the pre-1980s stuff, and while the Rowling books are much more kid-lit than fantasy-lit, they&#039;re clever, entertaining, and well-plotted.  I admire her flair for invention -- owl post, the Quick-Quotes Quill, etc., etc. -- and how it didn&#039;t flag over 7 books.

Re: the &quot;they stopped editing her&quot; bit, why do people say that?  Because the books got longer?  Could it just be that she had more to put in so that she could avoid running into an 8th book?  I&#039;ve never felt bored with any part of the series, and in fact the 5th book was my favorite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've read lots of fantasy, particularly the pre-1980s stuff, and while the Rowling books are much more kid-lit than fantasy-lit, they're clever, entertaining, and well-plotted.  I admire her flair for invention -- owl post, the Quick-Quotes Quill, etc., etc. -- and how it didn't flag over 7 books.</p>
<p>Re: the "they stopped editing her" bit, why do people say that?  Because the books got longer?  Could it just be that she had more to put in so that she could avoid running into an 8th book?  I've never felt bored with any part of the series, and in fact the 5th book was my favorite.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been reading fantasy for more than 50 years.     I was an aficianado already when the Lord of the Rings was re-printed in the 60&#039;s (it is the re-print to which the series owes its fame).

The Harry Potter series is remarkable as a publishing phenomenon and we should be grateful to J. K. Rowlings for bringing a new generation and, maybe, new generations of kids to reading.  As fantasy it&#039;s pretty unremarkable.

Its writing is so-so, its universe is not particularly well thought out (less so than the Buffyverse and that grew like Topsy), and it&#039;s practically completely derivative&#8212;sort of a combination of the Wizard of Oz and Tom Brown&#039;s School Days.  I can name a half-dozen or a dozen fantasy series that are better.  But I can&#039;t name one that has made or will make as much money.

All of that having been said I read and enjoyed all of the novels.  I just finished reading &lt;i&gt;The Deathly Hallows&lt;/i&gt; last night.  I probably hold some distinction or other in being one of the few people to have read it out loud (to my wife).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading fantasy for more than 50 years.     I was an aficianado already when the Lord of the Rings was re-printed in the 60's (it is the re-print to which the series owes its fame).</p>
<p>The Harry Potter series is remarkable as a publishing phenomenon and we should be grateful to J. K. Rowlings for bringing a new generation and, maybe, new generations of kids to reading.  As fantasy it's pretty unremarkable.</p>
<p>Its writing is so-so, its universe is not particularly well thought out (less so than the Buffyverse and that grew like Topsy), and it's practically completely derivative&mdash;sort of a combination of the Wizard of Oz and Tom Brown's School Days.  I can name a half-dozen or a dozen fantasy series that are better.  But I can't name one that has made or will make as much money.</p>
<p>All of that having been said I read and enjoyed all of the novels.  I just finished reading <i>The Deathly Hallows</i> last night.  I probably hold some distinction or other in being one of the few people to have read it out loud (to my wife).</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;James, even if you found the time to read them now you will never enjoy them more than you will when you read them with your kids. Either way, enjoy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ve got a few years to wait, then!  But, yeah, I suspect you&#039;re right.  I&#039;ve got the Chronicles of Narnia box set, the Peter Rabbit collection, the Hardy Boys, and some others saved for that occasion, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>James, even if you found the time to read them now you will never enjoy them more than you will when you read them with your kids. Either way, enjoy.</p></blockquote>
<p>I've got a few years to wait, then!  But, yeah, I suspect you're right.  I've got the Chronicles of Narnia box set, the Peter Rabbit collection, the Hardy Boys, and some others saved for that occasion, though.</p>
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		<title>By: markm</title>
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		<dc:creator>markm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, i&#039;m more of the movie goin&#039; type. It&#039;s better for my time management. The Potter movies were entertaining. Actually, compared to the redo&#039;s that H-Wood is churning out over the past couple of years the Potter series of movies has been good stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, i'm more of the movie goin' type. It's better for my time management. The Potter movies were entertaining. Actually, compared to the redo's that H-Wood is churning out over the past couple of years the Potter series of movies has been good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I count myself fortunate in that I have a son who grew up with the Potter books. He has been reading them and we have been discussing them with friends and family for ten years now. The years in between books were filled with endless  discussion, debates, dissections, speculations, ruminations, and nit-picking over characters, plot lines, bad puns, clever turns of phrase, symbolism, meanings and applicability to life. I would say that the years from grade school through middle school and into high school my son and his peers have done more literary criticism then they will ever do again in their lives. 

I kind of pity those whose start with the books comes after the whole series is completed. 

But never mind: The books make great bedtime reading to young kids starting around first or second grade. Then around age 9 or 10 they pick them up themselves and will read them from cover to cover. Repeatedly. 

James, even if you found the time to read them now you will never enjoy them more than you will when you read them with your kids. Either way, enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I count myself fortunate in that I have a son who grew up with the Potter books. He has been reading them and we have been discussing them with friends and family for ten years now. The years in between books were filled with endless  discussion, debates, dissections, speculations, ruminations, and nit-picking over characters, plot lines, bad puns, clever turns of phrase, symbolism, meanings and applicability to life. I would say that the years from grade school through middle school and into high school my son and his peers have done more literary criticism then they will ever do again in their lives. </p>
<p>I kind of pity those whose start with the books comes after the whole series is completed. </p>
<p>But never mind: The books make great bedtime reading to young kids starting around first or second grade. Then around age 9 or 10 they pick them up themselves and will read them from cover to cover. Repeatedly. </p>
<p>James, even if you found the time to read them now you will never enjoy them more than you will when you read them with your kids. Either way, enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Director Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Director Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the Potter books unbelievably boring - I actually think Rowling is the one who could use a better editor (as she got more successful the books became less edited - just like Clancy and King).

It&#039;s all a matter of taste, of course, but I wouldn&#039;t ever put Hogwarts in the same league as Middle Earth when it comes to literary worlds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the Potter books unbelievably boring - I actually think Rowling is the one who could use a better editor (as she got more successful the books became less edited - just like Clancy and King).</p>
<p>It's all a matter of taste, of course, but I wouldn't ever put Hogwarts in the same league as Middle Earth when it comes to literary worlds.</p>
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