...in Oregon, Obama pleaded ignorance of the decades-old, multibillion-dollar massive Hanford nuclear-waste cleanup: “Here’s something that you will rarely hear from a politician, and that is that I’m not familiar with the Hanford, uuuuhh, site, so I don’t know exactly what’s going on there. (Applause.) Now, having said that, I promise you I’ll learn about it by the time I leave here on the ride back to the airport.”

I assume on that ride, a staffer reminded him that he’s voted on at least one defense-authorization bill that addressed the “costs, schedules, and technical issues” dealing with the nation’s most contaminated nuclear-waste site.

I guess Obumble got a pass on this as he didn't actually use the words, "I'll get back to ya." Just another in a long list of true gaffes

they haven't scrutinized or held his gaffe's in nearly the light they have Palin's.

What Palin has been committing are not "gaffes", she is engaging in near incoherence, desperately trying to connect the dots between all the talking points that have been stuffed into her.

Any public figure who speaks on camera often is going to make mistakes, and I think everyone is pretty forgiving of that, unless it is really a whopper.

That is not what Palin is doing. Obviously the McCain campaign knows this, which is why they have pretty much turned her into a non-person.

If she has a rough time at the debate, I predict a long fact finding trip to Diego Garcia...

But I am not sure it if fair to hold SNL to the standard of media. SNL uses the gaffe's of the candidates, and I do think in many ways Palin has stepped into the poo that SNL is running with. And generally SNL is an equal opportunity spoofer. However, I admit now that I haven't actually watched any of the SNL shows in years and have only watched the SNL linked skits on websites and youtube-but I think they are doing what they generally do-spoofing the stupid things candidates say and do.

Not one article examining the association of Obama with Wright, Ayers, Rezko, ACORN ad infinitum.

That's because there's nothing there, Ragshaft. Of course, if you want to delve into these sorts of things, maybe we should examine McCain's association with the equally objectionable John Hagee and with McCain's involvement in the Keating Five scandal. What the hell, let's also toss in Bush's National Guard record. I never hear a peep out of you over those issues, no. Never a conspiracy or coverup there. But god forbid a liberal even look the way of someone who isn't squeaky clean, then you're all over them like white on rice.

There was a major truth blackout during the 1930's in Germany. A man was elected to office who was not very well vetted. History seems to be repeating itself. Notice who Axelrod looks like? Now imagine him with a much smaller mustache. Look like anyone?

I was wondering when the great rightwing nuthouse bogeyman was going to rear its ugly head. Funny how everything always comes back to Hitler and the Nazis with you freaks. First of all, if your understanding of interwar Germany is simply as a "truth blackout," then apparently you've been reading books only from Regnery Publishing. Probably large-type. Second, Hitler wasn't elected; he was appointed by President Hindenburg. Lastly, so, when one looks from a distance with squinted eyes at Axelrod, he looks like... Hitler? Then you certainly must look like a horse's a**, because only a horse's a** would even suggest such a stupid comment. My recommendation to you is to concentrate on getting your facts straight and leave the witticisms for those with actual wit.

We can always count on the rightwing nuthouse to violate Godwin's Law. Thread over.

Thanks alot, Ragshaft; this was otherwise turning into a good thread.

Maybe there's some other definition of the word moron I am unfamiliar with. Otherwise, this is an absurd statement.

I agree.

Hopefully she won't get any questions about how old the earth is, or how long she thinks it has left.

Why not? I would love to hear what the Idiot Biden thinks, or how about ZERO, I'm sure he has a none comprehensible line of bullsh-t for his understanding, or how about you?

Palin steps on the stage of of TV interview for a hostile host

Damn. You really can't make this stuff up.

Palin is a deer in the headlights with badasses like Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric, but she is ready to deal with Al Queda, Iran, and all the others who are "hell bent" on destroying our way of life.

Read again - 99% of US 72 year old men are not in the single highest stress, high adrenaline jobs that exist.

BTW - I would have been very comfortable with a Quale presidency; he was a bit awkward but was very qualified. I have lived in two small towns in the last 25 years both of which are about the size of Wassila. Both had real budget and management problems Palin did not face because of oil revenues and state assumption of local service responsibilities. Neither of these mayors are qualified to be president, and thet are all exponentialy more experienced then Palin.

"Tell me we wouldn't have seen SNL goofing on someone talking about having TiVo'd George Washingons Gettysburgh address during the war of 1812 if a republican had said something half as stupid as Bidens gaffe."

There's also a difference between lampooning someone who repeatedly tries to claim something ridiculous and someone who makes a mistake and moves on. If Obama were literally trying to convince people that there are 57 states, or Biden were attempting to sway the punditocracy that FDR was on TV in 1929, then that would be not only eminently mockable, but a seed for some pretty funny bits.

If people weren't legitimately trying to spin "Alaska is next to Russia" as legitimate foreign policy experience, it wouldn't be the subject of jokes. However the McCain candidacy tried to sell that to the public and the public bought it about as well as they'd buy David Axelrod sending out a revised map of the US with more than 50 states on it.

Palin steps on the stage of of TV interview for a hostile host. That is a fact. Charlie Gibson edited (or some other Obamite) edited her interview to make her look inept. Inept people do not get elected Governors of states, period. Catie Couric never asked Obama any difficult questions outside of his well rehearsed talking points. Yet, you judge Palin by her performance on a stage where she may have expected some, even if just a little objectivity. Boy was she ever wrong. Just like on this blog. Joyce claims to support McCain, yet there is only attacks upon him, his running mate and the campaign. Not one article examining the association of Obama with Wright, Ayers, Rezko, ACORN ad infinitum. There was a major truth blackout during the 1930's in Germany. A man was elected to office who was not very well vetted. History seems to be repeating itself. Notice who Axelrod looks like? Now imagine him with a much smaller mustache. Look like anyone?

Ragshaft- Leaving aside your conspiracy nonsense about editing interviews, nazi interviewers, or some media black out that you somehow attribute to everyone except the McCain camp. I do appreciate how you interpret Catie Couric's questions as anything above 'softballs'. I for one appreciate a little honest interpretations and opinions from the blogs that I read. If you want hack there are plenty of places to find it.

I can assure you that 99% of US 72 year old men don't get the medical services McCain gets either.

Conservatives often cite Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan for contributing to a Bush victory in 04. In the same vein, I'm happy to see you are doing your part to make sure Obama is elected this year. Keep spreading the word Ragshaft!

( I have trouble pasting links - so lets try this www(dot)ssa(dot)gov/OACT/STATS/table4c6.html )

Why is it so impossible for some people to admit how entirely unprepared Sarah Palin is for the national spotlight? At this point it is evident that it was a mistake on the part of McCain to select her as his VP candidate. Even for those who believe there is a massive liberal bias in the MSM, does the existence of such forbid the possibility that she is grossly unqualified?

Amen, you'd think at least one person here could defend her on something better than this 'the media did it' crap. Not to mention that she's been almost completely hidden from media attention at all. The woman is an embarrassment and she has no one to blame but her self, period. She's completely responsible for her actions, you know you're scrapping the bottom of the barrel when SNL makes fun of you using your own words.

I disagree that she'd win the debate by not embarrassing herself. But I do agree that it'd be a huge step forward for McCain-Palin.

Inept people do not get elected Governors of states, period.

Uhh..there's a guy named Rod Blagojevich you need to meet.

Samuel Beach Axtell was pretty bad too, but he was appointed, rather than elected.