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	<title>Comments on: California Man Gets Life Sentence for Beheading Dog</title>
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		<title>By: Louis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2004 00:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeez!
Why else would animals be on this earth but to benefit us, humans, in all ways nessessary to help us to survive. This person that chopped the head off of his dog should not have taken his anger out on his dog like this. However, the government should not have interferred in how he had seen fit to treat his property. Because that is what the dog is, or was, his property.
As to whether animals have souls or not? Well, we don&#039;t know that. But we do know that no animal has come out and talked to us and asked us not to treat them as our property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez!<br />
Why else would animals be on this earth but to benefit us, humans, in all ways nessessary to help us to survive. This person that chopped the head off of his dog should not have taken his anger out on his dog like this. However, the government should not have interferred in how he had seen fit to treat his property. Because that is what the dog is, or was, his property.<br />
As to whether animals have souls or not? Well, we don't know that. But we do know that no animal has come out and talked to us and asked us not to treat them as our property.</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anjin-San, your argument about animals that love is based on a very shallow definition of love. Your idea of love is simply that the cat or dog licks your hand or lets you pet it or comes when you call it, but that isn&#039;t love. Your pet &quot;loves&quot; you because you feed it and take care of it. I have have a pond outside and when I walk out the back door of my house, the fish come to the surface and swim around. Now do these fish really love me? Did they come to the surface to see my happy smiling face? Did they just want to show me how excited they are that I am home? Hardly, they expect food, plain and simple. If someone else walked out the backdoor of my house with a bat and a frying pan the fish would still be right to the surface swimming around. They hardly &quot;love&quot; me, they are simply conditioned: when someone walks out the door, it might mean that food is coming. That&#039;s all they care about.

True love is much more than that. True love does things for the benefit of others without the expectation of something in return. I do not change my 3 month old&#039;s diaper because I expect him to say &quot;Ohh thank you Daddy&quot; or to give me a big hug, I do it because I love him. I don&#039;t expect him to do anything for me or to give anything to me. This type of love is something that an animal is simply not capable of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anjin-San, your argument about animals that love is based on a very shallow definition of love. Your idea of love is simply that the cat or dog licks your hand or lets you pet it or comes when you call it, but that isn't love. Your pet "loves" you because you feed it and take care of it. I have have a pond outside and when I walk out the back door of my house, the fish come to the surface and swim around. Now do these fish really love me? Did they come to the surface to see my happy smiling face? Did they just want to show me how excited they are that I am home? Hardly, they expect food, plain and simple. If someone else walked out the backdoor of my house with a bat and a frying pan the fish would still be right to the surface swimming around. They hardly "love" me, they are simply conditioned: when someone walks out the door, it might mean that food is coming. That's all they care about.</p>
<p>True love is much more than that. True love does things for the benefit of others without the expectation of something in return. I do not change my 3 month old's diaper because I expect him to say "Ohh thank you Daddy" or to give me a big hug, I do it because I love him. I don't expect him to do anything for me or to give anything to me. This type of love is something that an animal is simply not capable of.</p>
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		<title>By: Anjin-San</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anjin-San</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McGehee,

According to Christianity, or at least the Old Testament, adulterers should be stoned to death.  Is this something you advocate, or are you just cherry picking and holding to the elements of Christianity that happen to support your world view?

btw, cats don&#039;t lie about dinner. they are just asking for more... hardly a &quot;lie&quot;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McGehee,</p>
<p>According to Christianity, or at least the Old Testament, adulterers should be stoned to death.  Is this something you advocate, or are you just cherry picking and holding to the elements of Christianity that happen to support your world view?</p>
<p>btw, cats don't lie about dinner. they are just asking for more... hardly a "lie"></p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Key Point: &quot;harming other people&quot;. 

The three strikes law equates three time murderers or rapists with three time convicted drug abusers.  Sometimes all three counts occur in one (the same)offense.

Worse yet, one time murderers and rapists get out of prison sooner than three time drug abusers.  
What&#039;s worse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Key Point: "harming other people". </p>
<p>The three strikes law equates three time murderers or rapists with three time convicted drug abusers.  Sometimes all three counts occur in one (the same)offense.</p>
<p>Worse yet, one time murderers and rapists get out of prison sooner than three time drug abusers.<br />
What's worse?</p>
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		<title>By: Cousin Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cousin Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to make a point about the sentence.  I don&#039;t know exactly how the laws of that state work, but the point of the three-srikes laws is:

The guy was not sentenced to life for killing the dog, as horrible as that was.  He was sentenced to life for being a habitual felon -- by definition, three felony convictions.  It&#039;s not like the guy didn&#039;t know he had the two previous ones.  The purpose of the law is to be a last resort to remove permanantly the people who simply can&#039;t be trusted to be out in society without harming other people.  It&#039;s a crude mechanism, but barring the invention of foolproof psychological screening, it&#039;s the best we&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'd like to make a point about the sentence.  I don't know exactly how the laws of that state work, but the point of the three-srikes laws is:</p>
<p>The guy was not sentenced to life for killing the dog, as horrible as that was.  He was sentenced to life for being a habitual felon -- by definition, three felony convictions.  It's not like the guy didn't know he had the two previous ones.  The purpose of the law is to be a last resort to remove permanantly the people who simply can't be trusted to be out in society without harming other people.  It's a crude mechanism, but barring the invention of foolproof psychological screening, it's the best we've got.</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Humans lie. Cats donâtâ¦&lt;/i&gt;

According to Christianity, one of the things that makes humans godlike (and proves they have souls) is their knowledge of the difference between right and wrong. I would submit that being able to lie is not itself relevant to whether or not one has a soul -- but the ability to feel &lt;i&gt;guilty&lt;/i&gt; about it is a pretty good indicator.

My wife has had cats all her life. They have, to a one, learned that she can be fooled by their behavior. They lie to her -- and don&#039;t feel one little bit guilty about it as they eat their second dinner of the night.

Which is why, if she&#039;s been working evenings, she always asks me whether I&#039;ve already fed the cats. If I haven&#039;t, I&#039;ll tell her the truth -- because &lt;b&gt;I&lt;/b&gt; don&#039;t like being a liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Humans lie. Cats donâtâ¦</i></p>
<p>According to Christianity, one of the things that makes humans godlike (and proves they have souls) is their knowledge of the difference between right and wrong. I would submit that being able to lie is not itself relevant to whether or not one has a soul -- but the ability to feel <i>guilty</i> about it is a pretty good indicator.</p>
<p>My wife has had cats all her life. They have, to a one, learned that she can be fooled by their behavior. They lie to her -- and don't feel one little bit guilty about it as they eat their second dinner of the night.</p>
<p>Which is why, if she's been working evenings, she always asks me whether I've already fed the cats. If I haven't, I'll tell her the truth -- because <b>I</b> don't like being a liar.</p>
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		<title>By: Anjin-San</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anjin-San</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2004 06:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Mark, I have had pets that I know loved me. If you have not had the same experience. perhaps you should take a good look in the mirror and ask why.

How do you know if a human loves you?  Humans lie. Cats don&#039;t...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Mark, I have had pets that I know loved me. If you have not had the same experience. perhaps you should take a good look in the mirror and ask why.</p>
<p>How do you know if a human loves you?  Humans lie. Cats don't...</p>
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		<title>By: Mark J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2004 06:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before you ask how a creature with no soul can love, you first have to prove that it can love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before you ask how a creature with no soul can love, you first have to prove that it can love.</p>
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		<title>By: Anjin-San</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/herald_sun_life_for_beheading_dog_11oct04/comment-page-1/#comment-25009</link>
		<dc:creator>Anjin-San</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2004 04:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A question for the soul experts...  I am sure most of us have had a dog or a cat who we knew without question loved us, or perhaps two pets who clearly loved each other. Now then, how can a creature with no soul love?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A question for the soul experts...  I am sure most of us have had a dog or a cat who we knew without question loved us, or perhaps two pets who clearly loved each other. Now then, how can a creature with no soul love?</p>
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		<title>By: Anjin-San</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/herald_sun_life_for_beheading_dog_11oct04/comment-page-1/#comment-25006</link>
		<dc:creator>Anjin-San</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2004 02:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually skh, I am more or less of a Buddhist.  The Bible btw, is the word of man, interpeting God, not the word of God.  How many Gospels were excluded from the Bible. How many times has it been rewritten?  Was King James speaking for God? I doubt it.

It is sad, but predictable to see someone like skh attack those who disagree with them. No respect for the views of others, and not much respect for life.  

Not much in the way of logic, either.  If someone kills either another person or a dog by accident, it is not a crime.  If someone is driving in a reckless manner or is drunk and they kill either a person or a dog (who is probably someones beloved pet) they probably face some sort of legal sanction even outside of California.

It is a shame that people have to hold themselves as somehow above either those who hold different religious views, or above other creatures, who manage to live upon this beautiful planet God gave us without poisioning it.  Here in California we refer to them as sufferers from low self-esteem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually skh, I am more or less of a Buddhist.  The Bible btw, is the word of man, interpeting God, not the word of God.  How many Gospels were excluded from the Bible. How many times has it been rewritten?  Was King James speaking for God? I doubt it.</p>
<p>It is sad, but predictable to see someone like skh attack those who disagree with them. No respect for the views of others, and not much respect for life.  </p>
<p>Not much in the way of logic, either.  If someone kills either another person or a dog by accident, it is not a crime.  If someone is driving in a reckless manner or is drunk and they kill either a person or a dog (who is probably someones beloved pet) they probably face some sort of legal sanction even outside of California.</p>
<p>It is a shame that people have to hold themselves as somehow above either those who hold different religious views, or above other creatures, who manage to live upon this beautiful planet God gave us without poisioning it.  Here in California we refer to them as sufferers from low self-esteem.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2004 02:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two prior assaults with a deadly weapon before this hideous thing to do.  Sorry, I am with mns, 25 years certainly is fitting.

In fact, this is exactly what the &quot;three strikes&quot; law is supposed to do: lock up a dangerous felon for life.  It&#039;s not like he stole a piece if pizza or a twinkie.  He beheaded a defenseless dog, and assaulted others in previous cases.  Good riddance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two prior assaults with a deadly weapon before this hideous thing to do.  Sorry, I am with mns, 25 years certainly is fitting.</p>
<p>In fact, this is exactly what the "three strikes" law is supposed to do: lock up a dangerous felon for life.  It's not like he stole a piece if pizza or a twinkie.  He beheaded a defenseless dog, and assaulted others in previous cases.  Good riddance.</p>
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		<title>By: skh</title>
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		<dc:creator>skh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2004 02:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anjin-San believes that using soap with Triclosan is a crime against God.  Those germs have SOULS, I tell you.  Anjin, it is most helpful when positing some wild-assed opinion that you don&#039;t invoke God, else you demonstrate your ignorance of His teachings as conveyed by almost any Bible that you can find.  If, perhaps, you are of a polytheist religion, then your confusion is understandable, although not forgivable.  Animals are on this earth for the benefit of humanity.  Dogs and cats and mice and horses, while warm-blooded and furry, are not humans...as much as you seem to otherwise wish.  While &lt;u&gt;cruelty&lt;/u&gt; is to be abhorred, hitting a dog with your car (for instance) does not rise to the level of vehicular manslaughter anywhere in this nation where rational adults are in charge of things.  If you reside in California, your results may vary wildly and unpredictably.  

&lt;b&gt;Animals are not humans.&lt;/b&gt;  By definition, if nothing else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anjin-San believes that using soap with Triclosan is a crime against God.  Those germs have SOULS, I tell you.  Anjin, it is most helpful when positing some wild-assed opinion that you don't invoke God, else you demonstrate your ignorance of His teachings as conveyed by almost any Bible that you can find.  If, perhaps, you are of a polytheist religion, then your confusion is understandable, although not forgivable.  Animals are on this earth for the benefit of humanity.  Dogs and cats and mice and horses, while warm-blooded and furry, are not humans...as much as you seem to otherwise wish.  While <u>cruelty</u> is to be abhorred, hitting a dog with your car (for instance) does not rise to the level of vehicular manslaughter anywhere in this nation where rational adults are in charge of things.  If you reside in California, your results may vary wildly and unpredictably.  </p>
<p><b>Animals are not humans.</b>  By definition, if nothing else.</p>
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		<title>By: Anjin-San</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anjin-San</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2004 00:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boyd:

Humans are the only creatures with souls? And you know this how?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boyd:</p>
<p>Humans are the only creatures with souls? And you know this how?</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anjin-San: God created lesser creatures for the benefit of the greater creatures: humans, the only creatures with souls.

Either we&#039;re just like other animals, many of which prey on other animals so we&#039;re no different, or we&#039;re superior to them, where it&#039;s reasonable for us to put them to our service.

Either logically or spiritually, there&#039;s sufficient justification for humans to put other animals to our own purposes. But the reason we would punish someone for beheading a dog would be based on morality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anjin-San: God created lesser creatures for the benefit of the greater creatures: humans, the only creatures with souls.</p>
<p>Either we're just like other animals, many of which prey on other animals so we're no different, or we're superior to them, where it's reasonable for us to put them to our service.</p>
<p>Either logically or spiritually, there's sufficient justification for humans to put other animals to our own purposes. But the reason we would punish someone for beheading a dog would be based on morality.</p>
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		<title>By: mns</title>
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		<dc:creator>mns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2004 22:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think 25 years is excessive at all. I also can&#039;t help but wonder how the other inmates will treat him, once they find out what he&#039;s in there for; gut instinct tells me if there are other dog-lovers in there with him, he&#039;s in for a really long twenty five years (oh, who are we kidding; he&#039;ll be up for parole in five), or a really, really short rest of his life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't think 25 years is excessive at all. I also can't help but wonder how the other inmates will treat him, once they find out what he's in there for; gut instinct tells me if there are other dog-lovers in there with him, he's in for a really long twenty five years (oh, who are we kidding; he'll be up for parole in five), or a really, really short rest of his life.</p>
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