Comments on: Hillary Clinton’s Duty to Quit

By: bains

bains — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:22:59 +0000

Minor point, but one that constantly amuses me.

Hilzoy: ...it is still overwhelmingly unlikely that Clinton wins, I hope they put the interests of the party and the nation above their own.

The interest of the nation is, of course, dictated by a 'Democratic party' of Hilzoy's design. Amusing that a pundit refuses to acknowledge their own political proclivities, passes off as dispassionate observation partisan claptrap. And yeah, folks from both sides foist this canard.

By: Obama-Clinton Battle Not Necessarily a Bad Thing » The American Mind

Obama-Clinton Battle Not Necessarily a Bad Thing » The American Mind — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:57:49 +0000

[...] Joyner gathered plenty of discussion from the netroots asking Clinton drop out. The worry is while Obama and Clinton hammer on each [...]

By: bornonthefourth

bornonthefourth — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:40:53 +0000

It really is like sports or sports betting. Key stats,You don't need to win every game to win the Championship.Giants. You do have to connect with the base like home field advantage on Halloween to overcome the points.Bears. All the cheating ruins the future. Pats. A mud horse is always in the money.Devonadale. All the money means nothing.Yankees
We love you Bret Farve, a real hero, Good luck Packers

By: Tlaloc

Tlaloc — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:39:15 +0000

So, the first question for Hillary come Wednesday, should she decide to continue risking our chances of winning in the fall even though the math says it’s over, will be the question she’s asking Obama today: What negatives will the Republicans throw against you in the fall? And as I’ve noted repeatedly, there are some negatives out there that most of you don’t even know about - but everyone in Washington knows about them, in detail.

I call BS. There is no human being on earth who has been more thoroughly exposed and exploited than Hillary Clinton. There are no more secrets in there because the republicans made a cottage industry of looting her garbage, not to mention crafting attacks from whole cloth.

This is the one great advantage Hillary has- the right has *nothing* left to throw at her. What can they say? She's a murderer? Already done that. Pervert? Been there. Traitor? Heard that every day six times before breakfast during the ninties. They've tried everything.

Meanwhile Obama has been hit by nothing. Every attack on him will be fresh and new and repeated by the papers again anad again (because as much as they like to build people up, they seel better when tearing them down from a great height).

By: yetanotherjohn

yetanotherjohn — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:05:19 +0000

Neither candidate is going to 'express the will of the people' by locking up the nomination with primary/caucus awarded delegates. Obama is ahead by 0.006% in the popular vote and about 2% in the delegate count. If Hillary pulls out PA, then she is likely to have the lead in popular vote. And I personally want to see every Obama supporter who complained about the 2000 election to have to eat humble pie whenever they talk about Hillary 'stealing' the election.

By: Dave Schuler

Dave Schuler — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:57:43 +0000

I certainly think it's true of the present incumbent. As to all politicians? Who can say?

By: Anderson

Anderson — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:51:06 +0000

The idea that either Bill or Hillary Clinton doesn't completely conflate the good of the party with his and her own good

As opposed to which other politician? Come now, sir.

By: Dave Schuler

Dave Schuler — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:35:53 +0000

The idea that either Bill or Hillary Clinton doesn't completely conflate the good of the party with his and her own good is a notion I would like to see some compelling evidence for.

By: Anderson

Anderson — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:50:46 +0000

A judicious post -- well said.

I think "electability" is up in the air. If Hillary's the Dem candidate and can focus on the ill-effects of 4 more years of Republican rule in the White House, I think that she can beat McCain, albeit narrowly.

She also benefits from the "underdog" narrative that Americans love, which is quite a trick for the onetime putative front-runner.

And while I still have grave doubts about the competence of her campaign staff, she has one thing going for her that I'm not sure Obama does: she *wants* this. Big time. And she doesn't see herself coming back and taking it in 2012 if she loses this time. For that matter, I doubt McCain wants it as badly, either.

The effectiveness of sheer ambition and lust for power should not be underrated.