Comments on: Hillary’s Florida-Michigan Gambit

By: DL

DL — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 10:36:54 +0000

I think she can win a lot of the lost black votes by now pounding the Obama camnpaign and the DNC as now treating woment and voters like the white man treated the blacks in the constitution - she need to start coamparing the 1/2 vote per person as treating women the same way the 3/5 vote called blacks less than a whole person.

By: The Glittering Eye » Blog Archive » To Seat or Not to Seat

The Glittering Eye » Blog Archive » To Seat or Not to Seat — Sat, 31 May 2008 20:30:46 +0000

[...] James Joyner noted this morning the Obama campaign’s proposal is actually quite generous under the circumstances [...]

By: Clinton Supporter

Clinton Supporter — Sat, 31 May 2008 14:35:12 +0000

As a Clinton supporter I hate to say this, but Obama has won the most delegates by the DNC agreed upon rules..

It seems there will be a stain of illigitmacy on a Clinton nomination (despite Super Delegates) when this is all done.

Not to mention the hypocrisy, after all, for eight years we have been reminded that we tried to win in 2000, rationalizing the national popular vote, by overturning Florida's certified results, via SCOFLA. Now we basically are trying to do the same to our own. Geez.

I really really do not like Obama.
But if he has won fairly by the rules, it seems natural that in a Democracy, that is what has to be respected.

By: William d'Inger

William d'Inger — Sat, 31 May 2008 13:16:24 +0000

fear of long-term damage to her political future will stop her

Methinks anybody who would say that must be tokin' high grade colitas. These are the Clintons we're talking about. For them, any political future other than the presidency is unacceptable. The only thing that will force her out is the delegate count. Oh sure, she'd accept an appointment to the Supreme Court with a Nobel Peace Prize. She'd even claim that superior to being president, but it'd be a lie. If she doesn't get the big prize, both she and Bill will live the remainder of their lives in bitterness.

By: Dave Schuler

Dave Schuler — Sat, 31 May 2008 13:16:17 +0000

BTw, I think a great debate topic would be

RESOLVED, that a candidate's performance in caucuses is a good gauge of his or her performance in a general election.

By: Dave Schuler

Dave Schuler — Sat, 31 May 2008 13:14:41 +0000

fear of long-term damage to her political future will stop her.

Does Sen. Clinton have a political future? Or is her present her future?

If Sen. Obama is the Democratic Party's nominee and if he loses in November, she has a future. Otherwise her future will be as the junior senator from New York. If she outlives Chuck Schumer she'll be the senior senator from New York.

She can hold that job for the rest of her life and the rules will ensure that she gets the same committee chairmanships and other perks of seniority that she would have if she'd quit in April.

By: mq

mq — Sat, 31 May 2008 13:03:31 +0000

At this point, I don't know if it really matters what the RBC does. This year has already been an unmitigated disaster for the Dems. No matter what happens with FL and MI, Obama will get the nomination. Obama, a rookie from Chicago who has already been labeled an arugula-munching elitist, has deep ties with a anti-white church and a political fixer, and can't win a swing state to save his life. Oh yeah, did I mention he's really, really for out in Left field? And that he has a wife that's following in Heinz Kerry's footsteps? It's almost like the Dems don't want to win in November. PS - The RBC needs to be less concerned with what will make Obama or Clinton happy and more concerned with what will make Florida and Michigan happy.

By: Obama Supporter

Obama Supporter — Sat, 31 May 2008 13:02:44 +0000

As an Obama supporter I hate to say this, but Clinton DOES have the popular vote.

It seems there will be a stain of illigetimacy on an Obama nomination (despite Super Delagates) when this is all done.

Not to mention the hypocrisy, after all, for eight years we have been reminding everyone who really won in 2000. Now we basically will do the same to our own. Geez.

I really really do not like Clinton.
But if she has the popular vote, it seems natural that in a Democracy, that is what has to be respected.