Comments on: Hitchens Gives the Finger to Maher’s Audience (Video)

By: CKS

CKS — Sun, 03 Sep 2006 04:26:52 +0000

Sadly, what I find in virtually every debate on Iraq is a lack of any knowledge of US policy prior to January of 2001...as if, for the Left, the world did not exist prior to Bush becoming President. While CLinton only bombed Iraq because of Sadaam's having WMDs, the country did not object so long as deaths were of Iraqi soliders and civilians...his political savy proved that to be correct in Bosnia as well. Civilian deaths in other countries by the USA were tolerated by Americans. Little did any of us know that while we were bombing Baghdad in 1998, Al Qaeda terrorists were here in America. Madeline Albright was ranting at that time about Sadaam's support of terrorists. As a result, all of this "Bush lied, people died" rhetoric is nothing more than the utterings of people who can do little more than quote bumper stickers. So much for politics...and I believe Hitchens "digit" was for those who have short term memory loss and those who do remember, yet will not admit it.

By: legion

legion — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:52:01 +0000

"Clearly" You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. "Clearly" Maher took a generalization made by Hitchens and asked if the same standard applied to Bush. You're the only person here who's connecting Bush's policies and WWIII.

By: LJD

LJD — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:59:48 +0000

Did you, can you read? Clearly, Maher accused the President of wanting WWIII, when I have seen the existence of no proof of that whatsoever. Ahmed-Jihad is on record saying such things. That was exactly my point. Show the proof supporting the President's 'beliefs', 'goals', or 'visions' that you assert he has. The simple fact that he believes in the 2nd coming of Christ is not adequate proof of his actions to facilitate such an event on Earth.

By: legion

legion — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:18:46 +0000

LJD, did you actually read the transcript? That's exactly what Hitch did - toss out a complete drive-by assertion about the Iranian pres, which Maher called him out on. In fact, Maher practically invited Hitch to expand on the difference between Bush's and Ahmanmna(whatever)'s beliefs, and rather than even attempt that, Hitch just froze up. This has nothing to do with hating the President, it has to do with Hitchen's incompetence in defending him.

By: LJD

LJD — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:57:09 +0000

...which makes your arguments nothing more than partisan, President-hating crap.

By: LJD

LJD — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:56:33 +0000

Since there are so many experts on what people want here, why not expand on you argument. In reference to Kathy;s question, you don't get to just make a wild assertion, drive-by style, and then put it on those that disagree with you to substantiate it.

I would say that if you are claiming these two men are working towards the same goal, then list the ACTIONS both have taken to bring it about, then compare.

My guess is that the Presidents actions, and statements made in public, pale in comparison to that of Alphabet-Jihad.

By: legion

legion — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:28:42 +0000

And yet nobody's addressed Kathy's question about Bush... Maher didn't equate Bush's entire religious dogma to Ahmenidjihad's, but Hitchens brought up the specific point that he (Ahm.) is expecting the Messiah to come back. And so is Bush. Hitchens talked himself into a corner and didn't have any way to respond except the 'ol "F-U". Now imagine the righteous indignation if Al Franken had gone on with O'Reilly and collapsed to the same point. Would you be defending Al? I think not. What's more pathetic about Hitchens' rant is his impression that the Iranian people want to be free of an Islamic theocracy. They don't; a lot of them just want a better-run theocracy. Just like the people of Iraq and Afghanistan. Assuming that "our way" is the only way "right-thinking people" want to be is asinine. But so is Hitchens.

By: LJD

LJD — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:07:42 +0000

When did YOU become an expert in what Mahmoud Ahmadinejad believes?

Unless there's some problem with the translation, he pretty much says what he believes...
or he's saying something he doesn't believe. Nevertheless, he says it...

By: tpainless

tpainless — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 03:42:04 +0000

I think Mr Zelsdorf admires Hitchens because he identifies with him.He's probably rehearsing the finger move right now which is the extent of his verbal skills.

By: Kathy

Kathy — Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:00:56 +0000

When did YOU become an expert in what Mahmoud Ahmadinejad believes?

By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III

Zelsdorf Ragshaft III — Sun, 27 Aug 2006 02:25:08 +0000

Kathy, when did you become an expert in what the President believes? Is it that you are an expert in what you think the President believes? There are times when even the most agile advocate of an idea must bring his language down to the level of those he wishes to communicate with. When one speaks to the idiots on the left, to whom truth makes no difference, sometimes directions on where to go, and what needs to be done to them in required. Those who equate the President of Iran with the President of the United States should go to hell and get f--ked.

By: Kathy

Kathy — Sat, 26 Aug 2006 22:41:43 +0000

James, why do you say that Maher's comment was "tripe"? Pres. Bush IS a believer in apocalyptic Christian theology, and apocalyptic Christians do believe that the Messiah is coming back.

By: ray robison

ray robison — Sat, 26 Aug 2006 20:11:00 +0000

"obviously bright people like Maher "

What? He is freaking moron. You dont have to be bright to crack a joke. Comedy is way overblown as a sign of intelligence. My 3 year old son can crack a better joke anyway.

By: Old War Dogs

Old War Dogs — Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:27:24 +0000

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