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		<title>By: LJD</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/hitchens_stand_up_for_denmark_/comment-page-1/#comment-74511</link>
		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not so good with the reading comprehension, eh?

If you re-read my comment, you will find that I said the decision should be up to the family, not some pinko journalist with a cross to bear.

There is a BIG difference between reporting a suicide bombing, and showing rows of coffins for the emotional effect that it produces. 

Thank God you&#039;re not in charge of it.  I would have to come back from the grave to wring your scrawny neck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not so good with the reading comprehension, eh?</p>
<p>If you re-read my comment, you will find that I said the decision should be up to the family, not some pinko journalist with a cross to bear.</p>
<p>There is a BIG difference between reporting a suicide bombing, and showing rows of coffins for the emotional effect that it produces. </p>
<p>Thank God you're not in charge of it.  I would have to come back from the grave to wring your scrawny neck.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/hitchens_stand_up_for_denmark_/comment-page-1/#comment-74448</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LJD,

So the families of every single family of a fallen serviceman wants the photos of the coffins censored. And of course you can document this. I am standing by for you to provide the documentation.

So showing a photo of a coffin coming home is exploitation, no ifs ands or buts?

Lets extend your &quot;logic&quot;. A family is blow up by terroritst in Iraq.  The US media repots it. The White House mentions it at a press briefing.  Are the media and the WH &quot;exploiting&quot; the incident?  Should they have to contact the families of the victims in Iraq to obtain permission and waivers before proceeding?

You might want to be careful about using expression like moron dude, there is an old saying about the pot calling the kettle black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LJD,</p>
<p>So the families of every single family of a fallen serviceman wants the photos of the coffins censored. And of course you can document this. I am standing by for you to provide the documentation.</p>
<p>So showing a photo of a coffin coming home is exploitation, no ifs ands or buts?</p>
<p>Lets extend your "logic". A family is blow up by terroritst in Iraq.  The US media repots it. The White House mentions it at a press briefing.  Are the media and the WH "exploiting" the incident?  Should they have to contact the families of the victims in Iraq to obtain permission and waivers before proceeding?</p>
<p>You might want to be careful about using expression like moron dude, there is an old saying about the pot calling the kettle black.</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/hitchens_stand_up_for_denmark_/comment-page-1/#comment-74445</link>
		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are truly a moron.  If you want to learn more about that which you speak so ignorantly of, maybe YOU should sign up.

In no stretch of the imagination can EXPLOITING the deaths of our fallen heroes be construed as &#039;free speech&#039;.

THE ONLY citizens in a position to make that call are the family memebers.  Unless of course your mom is Cindy Sheehan.  Then you better have a damn good Will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are truly a moron.  If you want to learn more about that which you speak so ignorantly of, maybe YOU should sign up.</p>
<p>In no stretch of the imagination can EXPLOITING the deaths of our fallen heroes be construed as 'free speech'.</p>
<p>THE ONLY citizens in a position to make that call are the family memebers.  Unless of course your mom is Cindy Sheehan.  Then you better have a damn good Will.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/hitchens_stand_up_for_denmark_/comment-page-1/#comment-74433</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LJD,

Sorry pal, but deciding what &quot;disrespects&quot; brave young men who  have fallen in Iraq is not up to you. 

I know that as a Bushsite, you are the self-appointed judge of who is patriotic in America, (why don&#039;t you just call yourself &quot;Tail Gunner&quot;?),  but millions of us feel that censoring the photos of coffins coming home in a politically-based attempt to minimize the sacrifce of these young men and the carnage in Iraq is really where the disrespect lies.

As for assholes who disrupt funerals, please don&#039;t try and associate anyone who disagrees with your politics with them. It is pretty weak.

LJD you must know about the manpower crisis that Bush&#039;s war has caused in the military. I would think that as a vet and the last American patriot, you would have voulenteered for combat duty in Iraq to support the mission you so stongly believe in.  Guess it is easy to talk tough on blogs when it is some other guys ass on the line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LJD,</p>
<p>Sorry pal, but deciding what "disrespects" brave young men who  have fallen in Iraq is not up to you. </p>
<p>I know that as a Bushsite, you are the self-appointed judge of who is patriotic in America, (why don't you just call yourself "Tail Gunner"?),  but millions of us feel that censoring the photos of coffins coming home in a politically-based attempt to minimize the sacrifce of these young men and the carnage in Iraq is really where the disrespect lies.</p>
<p>As for assholes who disrupt funerals, please don't try and associate anyone who disagrees with your politics with them. It is pretty weak.</p>
<p>LJD you must know about the manpower crisis that Bush's war has caused in the military. I would think that as a vet and the last American patriot, you would have voulenteered for combat duty in Iraq to support the mission you so stongly believe in.  Guess it is easy to talk tough on blogs when it is some other guys ass on the line.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/hitchens_stand_up_for_denmark_/comment-page-1/#comment-74432</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LJD,

Sorry pal, it is not up to you to decide what respects or disrespects fallen combat soldiers coming home from Iraq.  You can thump your chest and shriek about your patriotisim all you like, but like the rest of the Bushites, you have no corner on that market, except  in your own mind.

In the minds of millions of Americans it is a disrespect to censor the photos of returning coffins in an effort to try and minimize the ultimate sacrafice made by these brave young men.

You know LDJ, Bush has left our military with severe manpower issues. I would think that as a vet and as one of the only patriots in America, you would have voulenteered for combat in this war you believe so deeply in. Guess its easier to talk tough when it is some other guys ass on the line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LJD,</p>
<p>Sorry pal, it is not up to you to decide what respects or disrespects fallen combat soldiers coming home from Iraq.  You can thump your chest and shriek about your patriotisim all you like, but like the rest of the Bushites, you have no corner on that market, except  in your own mind.</p>
<p>In the minds of millions of Americans it is a disrespect to censor the photos of returning coffins in an effort to try and minimize the ultimate sacrafice made by these brave young men.</p>
<p>You know LDJ, Bush has left our military with severe manpower issues. I would think that as a vet and as one of the only patriots in America, you would have voulenteered for combat in this war you believe so deeply in. Guess its easier to talk tough when it is some other guys ass on the line.</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will.  As a Veteran from a long line of American patriots, this kind of &#039;free speech&#039; makes me lose my mind.  If I only had the opportunity to witness such tripe in person, it might look a lot like Muslims rioting over cartoons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will.  As a Veteran from a long line of American patriots, this kind of 'free speech' makes me lose my mind.  If I only had the opportunity to witness such tripe in person, it might look a lot like Muslims rioting over cartoons.</p>
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		<title>By: Mook</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/hitchens_stand_up_for_denmark_/comment-page-1/#comment-74408</link>
		<dc:creator>Mook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GO LJD GO!! 
Let us know how you really feel. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GO LJD GO!!<br />
Let us know how you really feel. :)</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/hitchens_stand_up_for_denmark_/comment-page-1/#comment-74380</link>
		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose disrespecting those who made the ultimate sacrifice, for your right to &#039;prove&#039; the war is wrong, is a fair trade to you.

Idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose disrespecting those who made the ultimate sacrifice, for your right to 'prove' the war is wrong, is a fair trade to you.</p>
<p>Idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further, no one has been killed in riots over &#039;flag draped coffins&#039;.  

If you can&#039;t see the difference, you are blind to reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further, no one has been killed in riots over 'flag draped coffins'.  </p>
<p>If you can't see the difference, you are blind to reality.</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anjin San, once again way out in left field...

Flag draped coffins are not &#039;censored&#039; as you so ignorantly put it.  The soldier and their family is honored by preserving the sanctity of their sacrifice from whackos like Code Pink.  

Get a grip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anjin San, once again way out in left field...</p>
<p>Flag draped coffins are not 'censored' as you so ignorantly put it.  The soldier and their family is honored by preserving the sanctity of their sacrifice from whackos like Code Pink.  </p>
<p>Get a grip.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 06:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I guess when Bush censors photos of flag draped coffins coming back from Iraq it is GOOD censorship, as opposed to BAD censorship by Muslims.

Censorship is just bad.  Lets put more focus on the state of freedom in our own country.  Pointing fingers at others is a way of fooling ourselves that it is not in decline here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I guess when Bush censors photos of flag draped coffins coming back from Iraq it is GOOD censorship, as opposed to BAD censorship by Muslims.</p>
<p>Censorship is just bad.  Lets put more focus on the state of freedom in our own country.  Pointing fingers at others is a way of fooling ourselves that it is not in decline here.</p>
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		<title>By: G A PHILLIPS</title>
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		<dc:creator>G A PHILLIPS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 05:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more time, there are no moderate Muslims just non-believers, And Herb is right, our leaders pay no attention to history, then again not many do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more time, there are no moderate Muslims just non-believers, And Herb is right, our leaders pay no attention to history, then again not many do.</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/hitchens_stand_up_for_denmark_/comment-page-1/#comment-74338</link>
		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 00:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I have a lot of sympathy and can understand how the Dames feel about not getting more support from the US, I must say that the Danes and the Europeans have brought this upon themselves. Thier ultra liberal policies have welcomed Muslims in their country, fed them, clothed them and provided them with housing at the expense of working Danes. The Danish people is who I feel sorry for. They are getting the brunt of this entire fiasco. The only course of action the Danes can take to earn any credability is to deport the Muslims back to their homeland where thay can riot, kill and steal anything they want.

For the US, our leaders never learn, (Dems and Reps&gt;) and the people will end up paying for the failed policies that cater to the so called moderate Muslims. If there are Moderate Muslims, where the hell are they, I haven&#039;t seen any indications of a muslim movement against the muslim extremist movement. For me, I just don&#039;t have any trust in what any Muslim says or does and the sooner we, here in the US, realize that the better off and safer we all will be. 

It will take another 9/11 for anyone to wake up and take back our country from those who subsctibe to appeasement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I have a lot of sympathy and can understand how the Dames feel about not getting more support from the US, I must say that the Danes and the Europeans have brought this upon themselves. Thier ultra liberal policies have welcomed Muslims in their country, fed them, clothed them and provided them with housing at the expense of working Danes. The Danish people is who I feel sorry for. They are getting the brunt of this entire fiasco. The only course of action the Danes can take to earn any credability is to deport the Muslims back to their homeland where thay can riot, kill and steal anything they want.</p>
<p>For the US, our leaders never learn, (Dems and Reps&gt;) and the people will end up paying for the failed policies that cater to the so called moderate Muslims. If there are Moderate Muslims, where the hell are they, I haven't seen any indications of a muslim movement against the muslim extremist movement. For me, I just don't have any trust in what any Muslim says or does and the sooner we, here in the US, realize that the better off and safer we all will be. </p>
<p>It will take another 9/11 for anyone to wake up and take back our country from those who subsctibe to appeasement.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 00:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John makes an excellent point.  In theory, a Middle East expert, preferably an Arabist, would hold the position.  But it may be the case where a PR pro--which Hughes is--is the right way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John makes an excellent point.  In theory, a Middle East expert, preferably an Arabist, would hold the position.  But it may be the case where a PR pro--which Hughes is--is the right way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: John Burgess</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure that having a diplomat running Public Diplomacy is a given plus.

The last diplomat to head that office (then USIA) was Henry Catto.

&lt;blockquote&gt;In the course of a long and distinguished diplomatic and government career, Henry Catto has been director of the United States Information Agency (1991-93), U.S. Ambassador to the United Kingdom (1989-91), Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs and Pentagon Spokesman (1981-83), U.S. Representative to the United Nations Offices in Geneva (1976-77), Chief of Protocol, White House and Department of State (1974-76), U.S. Ambassador to El Salvador (1971-73), and Deputy Representative to the Organization of American States (1969-71).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Clearly qualified (he and his wife owned a bunch of radio stations in Texas, too).

But while he didn&#039;t do any harm to USIA, he didn&#039;t particularly do a lot of good, either. There were no terrific, new initiatives (though there was rapid expansion of existing programs into the former Soviet Union).

His tenure was between that of two of the biggest disasters the agency had, Bruce Gelb and Joseph Duffey. In my opinion, the first simply slept through the job while the second worked to actively dismantle USIA. He succeeded when USIA was &quot;reorganized&quot; into State.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm not sure that having a diplomat running Public Diplomacy is a given plus.</p>
<p>The last diplomat to head that office (then USIA) was Henry Catto.</p>
<blockquote><p>In the course of a long and distinguished diplomatic and government career, Henry Catto has been director of the United States Information Agency (1991-93), U.S. Ambassador to the United Kingdom (1989-91), Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs and Pentagon Spokesman (1981-83), U.S. Representative to the United Nations Offices in Geneva (1976-77), Chief of Protocol, White House and Department of State (1974-76), U.S. Ambassador to El Salvador (1971-73), and Deputy Representative to the Organization of American States (1969-71).</p></blockquote>
<p>Clearly qualified (he and his wife owned a bunch of radio stations in Texas, too).</p>
<p>But while he didn't do any harm to USIA, he didn't particularly do a lot of good, either. There were no terrific, new initiatives (though there was rapid expansion of existing programs into the former Soviet Union).</p>
<p>His tenure was between that of two of the biggest disasters the agency had, Bruce Gelb and Joseph Duffey. In my opinion, the first simply slept through the job while the second worked to actively dismantle USIA. He succeeded when USIA was "reorganized" into State.</p>
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