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		<title>By: final destination &#124; I news mag</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/holiday_hell_sunday_december_23rd/comment-page-1/#comment-264951</link>
		<dc:creator>final destination &#124; I news mag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Holiday Hell: Sunday December 23rd - Outside the Beltway [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Florida Masochist</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/holiday_hell_sunday_december_23rd/comment-page-1/#comment-264905</link>
		<dc:creator>The Florida Masochist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;And mind you I wasn&#039;t leaving the Continental U.S. and supposedly everyone I ran into spoke english. And what pissed me off was the lack of simply bullshitting me. Tell me the truth, find your own way from here at least lets me know where I stand.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Steve,

From your diatribe and reply to me, I hardly think you would have handled &#039;the truth&#039; any better than the &#039;bs&#039; you were given.

The airlines can&#039;t control the weather. Flying in the winter time to parts of the country which are prone to bad weather, you got to expect delays and frustration. I did when flying over 400,000 flight miles between the summer of 96 and Jan. 02.

Also I note some serious anger issues. You got problems. Your fellow passengers are inane nitwits. From the diatribe you published at this blog, I think that monniker would describe you to a T.

&lt;em&gt;Actually it was the two people in the bus.  The other passangers were all pretty decent.  We were all in the same boat and joked about the situation.  So two out of possible...mmm...20 people I actually interacted with is pretty good, I think.  And the converstation was inane.--SV&lt;/em&gt;

Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>"And mind you I wasn't leaving the Continental U.S. and supposedly everyone I ran into spoke english. And what pissed me off was the lack of simply bullshitting me. Tell me the truth, find your own way from here at least lets me know where I stand."</p></blockquote>
<p>Steve,</p>
<p>From your diatribe and reply to me, I hardly think you would have handled 'the truth' any better than the 'bs' you were given.</p>
<p>The airlines can't control the weather. Flying in the winter time to parts of the country which are prone to bad weather, you got to expect delays and frustration. I did when flying over 400,000 flight miles between the summer of 96 and Jan. 02.</p>
<p>Also I note some serious anger issues. You got problems. Your fellow passengers are inane nitwits. From the diatribe you published at this blog, I think that monniker would describe you to a T.</p>
<p><em>Actually it was the two people in the bus.  The other passangers were all pretty decent.  We were all in the same boat and joked about the situation.  So two out of possible...mmm...20 people I actually interacted with is pretty good, I think.  And the converstation was inane.--SV</em></p>
<p>Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gawd steve when r u gonna stop your bellyaching?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gawd steve when r u gonna stop your bellyaching?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/holiday_hell_sunday_december_23rd/comment-page-1/#comment-264663</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Florida Masochist,

You are right, those are worse than my trip, but when a coup that claims 100 people in a foreign country is what it takes to beat my story...well I think I can still lay claim to having a really bad experience.

And wait...I&#039;m still not done.  Note that when I ended my post we still hadn&#039;t gotten to our destination.  I don&#039;t consider what amounts to a 12 hour trip taking over 3x as long as mild or reasonable.  A two to six hour delay is one thing, a 300%+ increase in travel time?  And mind you I wasn&#039;t leaving the Continental U.S. and supposedly everyone I ran into spoke english.  And what pissed me off was the lack of simply bullshitting me.  Tell me the truth, find your own way from here at least lets me know where I stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Florida Masochist,</p>
<p>You are right, those are worse than my trip, but when a coup that claims 100 people in a foreign country is what it takes to beat my story...well I think I can still lay claim to having a really bad experience.</p>
<p>And wait...I'm still not done.  Note that when I ended my post we still hadn't gotten to our destination.  I don't consider what amounts to a 12 hour trip taking over 3x as long as mild or reasonable.  A two to six hour delay is one thing, a 300%+ increase in travel time?  And mind you I wasn't leaving the Continental U.S. and supposedly everyone I ran into spoke english.  And what pissed me off was the lack of simply bullshitting me.  Tell me the truth, find your own way from here at least lets me know where I stand.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waaaa what a crybaby you are, Steve.  I&#039;m just surprised you never took the time to blame President Bush.  

And what a lovely mouth you have on you as well.  Your son must be proud of pops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waaaa what a crybaby you are, Steve.  I'm just surprised you never took the time to blame President Bush.  </p>
<p>And what a lovely mouth you have on you as well.  Your son must be proud of pops.</p>
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		<title>By: The Florida Masochist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Florida Masochist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Your experiences are pretty mild. Another OTB contributor posted this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/04/where_is_taiyuan/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;guy&#039;s story&lt;/a&gt; in 2006. Instead of being sent to Taiwan, he ended up in Taiyuan. Asked to be taken to a hotel, they took him to a whorehouse. You want to be the rare blue eyed man in a town 

In 1989 I was on the way to the Philippines. My wife was in Manila, we were meeting for her embassy interview in order for her to get a visa to immigrate to the US. A coup attempt that took over 100 lives, many of whom were civilians, started on the day of my planned arrival. Leonita spent three harrowing days in the middle of that mess, while I got stuck up in seoul trying to to contact her. See my wife was with family who had no phone.

No fear of your wife getting killed just because she was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I think the China traveler and me got you beat.

Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Your experiences are pretty mild. Another OTB contributor posted this <a href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/04/where_is_taiyuan/" rel="nofollow">guy's story</a> in 2006. Instead of being sent to Taiwan, he ended up in Taiyuan. Asked to be taken to a hotel, they took him to a whorehouse. You want to be the rare blue eyed man in a town </p>
<p>In 1989 I was on the way to the Philippines. My wife was in Manila, we were meeting for her embassy interview in order for her to get a visa to immigrate to the US. A coup attempt that took over 100 lives, many of whom were civilians, started on the day of my planned arrival. Leonita spent three harrowing days in the middle of that mess, while I got stuck up in seoul trying to to contact her. See my wife was with family who had no phone.</p>
<p>No fear of your wife getting killed just because she was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I think the China traveler and me got you beat.</p>
<p>Bill</p>
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		<title>By: acm</title>
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		<dc:creator>acm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did someone swap a decent political blog for a LiveJournal with proper grammar?</description>
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		<title>By: markm</title>
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		<dc:creator>markm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....soooo....in a nutshell, yer sayin&#039; that holiday travel isn&#039;t as fun as it looks every year on TV....so we&#039;re clear.   :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>....soooo....in a nutshell, yer sayin' that holiday travel isn't as fun as it looks every year on TV....so we're clear.   :)</p>
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