1. the University is typically abbreviated UCLA, not ULCA.

2. If you had even skimmed as far as the title, you'd see your most recent item speaks to whether FDR prolonged the Great Depression, not caused it. Whether he prolonged the Depression is something which can be argued without sounding like a total fool. Arguing it was only a recession before he took office, as both you and DL said, not so much.

No -- I read the first 2, and my company's browser rejected the third. It's just that they are simple polemics with no data behind them, a certainly no attempt to actually deal with the sort of data I cited. I said months ago that you were like the folks in the 30's cursing "that man in the White House". It's nice to see you are consistent.

Try again.

"FDR made the situation worse, turnninga recession into a full-on depression."

You sure have a funny way with terms. When GDP drops 25% from 1929 to 1932 (see chart), it's a recession. When it starts rising again, it's a full-on depression.

Don't quit your day job to go into economics.

Yes, that's pretty much the definition.

So, the Democrat compaints about Republican stonewalling even when they've been in the minority and not voting as a block in the past, is all nonsense? You really sure you wanna go this route?

Wow. Just wow. Can I have a hit of what you're smoking, please?

Wow. Just wow. Can I have a hit of what you're smoking, please?

It's called "reality".
Look into it. I'm sure you'll find it an interesting concept, should you ever manage to grasp the basics of it.

"think of FDR's inovations turning a recession into the great depression"

Wow. Just wow. Can I have a hit of what you're smoking, please?

1. Obama's (or Algore's for that matter)call to rush this through is evidence that it can't stand the light of day. Analyze it to death -educate the masses why it's bad and use what liberals use - fear, envy, anger, to get it done.

Innovative policy is what gets us into trouble. Wasn't the innovative CRA the sub-prime puncture in our economic raft what sunk us in the first place? Innovation is the holy grail of the left (think of FDR's inovations turning a recession into the great depression)- try instead using simple basic remedys that have proven themselves over time.
Start referring to those who are shouting fire in a theatre when it's only the popcorn burning, as what they are -panic mongers and harmful to the cause and probably (dare I say it MSM)unpatriotic partisans, all the way.

"To be a stone wall, the Dems have to vote as a unit?"

Yes, that's pretty much the definition.

"Funny thing; THe Republicans have never voted as a unit in the last eight years, with this one vote being the exception."

As the British say, pull the other one, it's got bells on.

"Which way we goin' with this, anyway?"

Showing that the real world is nothing at all like what the voices in your head tell you.

So when you initially said "the stone wall the Democrats were in terms of Bush policy, for eight years, despite his bending over backward to accomidate them.", you meant that the very leaky wall that the Democrats built having roughly 15% of their caucus supporting the measure proposed by the President of the opposite party, and Republicans should emulate them by not voting in lockstep in opposition to that President and instead providing 20+ votes here. Got it.

So, let me understand this. To be a stone wall, the Dems have to vote as a unit? Funny thing; THe Republicans have never voted as a unit in the last eight years, with this one vote being the exception. And yet we hear that the Republcians have been stonewalling Democats for that timeframe.

Which way we goin' with this, anyway?

Also, can anyone point to 4 or 5 items that are absolute pork that are in the current bill? I have not read the whole thing, but the portions I have don’t seem like pork to me. Its like the ethanol subsidies debate: I think they are pork, but farming states don’t. I want to know with fact and figures what pork is in the bill…4 or 5 items…