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	<title>Comments on: H.R. McMaster Passed Over &#8211; Reverse Peter Principle?</title>
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		<title>By: ROFASix</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/hr_mcmaster_passed_over_-_reverse_peter_principle/comment-page-1/#comment-140018</link>
		<dc:creator>ROFASix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 06:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Is McMaster&#039;s Non-Selection Army Seppuku?...&lt;/strong&gt;

In the novel, Once An Eagle, author Anton Myrer begins with this quote:

&quot;So in the Lybyan fable it is told
That once an eagle, stricken with a dart,
Said, when he saw the fashion of the shaft,
&quot;&#039;With our own feathers, not by others&#039; hands,
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Is McMaster's Non-Selection Army Seppuku?...</strong></p>
<p>In the novel, Once An Eagle, author Anton Myrer begins with this quote:</p>
<p>"So in the Lybyan fable it is told<br />
That once an eagle, stricken with a dart,<br />
Said, when he saw the fashion of the shaft,<br />
"'With our own feathers, not by others' hands,<br />
A...</p>
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		<title>By: William d'Inger</title>
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		<dc:creator>William d'Inger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The number of flag slots is strictly limited.  How many other colonels are there vying for that same star?  What are their qualifications?  You seem to be concentrating on detail and missing the big picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The number of flag slots is strictly limited.  How many other colonels are there vying for that same star?  What are their qualifications?  You seem to be concentrating on detail and missing the big picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dale, if the 3- and 4-stars were picked by Rumsfeld (and Cheney), with politicaly reliability being paramount, then there would be quite a possibility for political influence. 

And, to the best of my knowledge, that&#039;s exactly what the administration has done - picked generals who would go along to get along.  In IRRC Rumsfeld earlier wanted to get rid of all the top generals, on the grounds that the administration had a right to 100% their choices.

I&#039;m puzzled as to the lack of understanding on how an administration devoted to political overrides of standard bureaucratic processes *wouldn&#039;t* be suspected of interference here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dale, if the 3- and 4-stars were picked by Rumsfeld (and Cheney), with politicaly reliability being paramount, then there would be quite a possibility for political influence. </p>
<p>And, to the best of my knowledge, that's exactly what the administration has done - picked generals who would go along to get along.  In IRRC Rumsfeld earlier wanted to get rid of all the top generals, on the grounds that the administration had a right to 100% their choices.</p>
<p>I'm puzzled as to the lack of understanding on how an administration devoted to political overrides of standard bureaucratic processes *wouldn't* be suspected of interference here.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Sile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, if this is true then it really does send all the wrong signals to those of us deciding whether we&#039;re serious about COIN.  That said, besides getting a knife by some (just one on this board is all that&#039;s needed), maybe he made a screw-up.  You can be dammed by faint praise for a reason and this is the promotion that&#039;s hardest to make.  I would have thought he was golden, so big surprise he&#039;s passed over.  Much less than he&#039;s been passed over a second time.  One board I&#039;d buy someone with a long knife.  Twice passed over suggests to me maybe something more is hidden in his file.  Still this is a huge mistake in that he gets positive results on battlefield.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, if this is true then it really does send all the wrong signals to those of us deciding whether we're serious about COIN.  That said, besides getting a knife by some (just one on this board is all that's needed), maybe he made a screw-up.  You can be dammed by faint praise for a reason and this is the promotion that's hardest to make.  I would have thought he was golden, so big surprise he's passed over.  Much less than he's been passed over a second time.  One board I'd buy someone with a long knife.  Twice passed over suggests to me maybe something more is hidden in his file.  Still this is a huge mistake in that he gets positive results on battlefield.</p>
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		<title>By: DC Loser</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC Loser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh...my retirement date already came and went (but I&#039;m not a retiree).  It was fun while it lasted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh...my retirement date already came and went (but I'm not a retiree).  It was fun while it lasted.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I was a freshman in high school when you start at USMA and I now have 18 1/2 years in the Marine Corps.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yup. My cohort (1988) are LTCs and rising COLs now.  They&#039;ll be eligible to retire in another year.

One of my high school classmates had retired from the Navy by the time of our 20th reunion, having enlisted right out of school and later gotten commissioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I was a freshman in high school when you start at USMA and I now have 18 1/2 years in the Marine Corps.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yup. My cohort (1988) are LTCs and rising COLs now.  They'll be eligible to retire in another year.</p>
<p>One of my high school classmates had retired from the Navy by the time of our 20th reunion, having enlisted right out of school and later gotten commissioned.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry:  As James points out 1 star generals (Brigadier General) aren&#039;t senior generals.  The promotion board for 1 star generals is made up of 3 and 4 star generals so I&#039;m sure they know what they want.  I seriously doubt that a 1 star even merit&#039;s the attention of a president though I&#039;m almost certain presidents get involved in picking 3 and four star generals/admirals.

On another note, James you are getting old.  I was a freshman in high school when you start at USMA and I now have 18 1/2 years in the Marine Corps.  Sorry, couldn&#039;t pass up the opportunity.

Semper Fi!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry:  As James points out 1 star generals (Brigadier General) aren't senior generals.  The promotion board for 1 star generals is made up of 3 and 4 star generals so I'm sure they know what they want.  I seriously doubt that a 1 star even merit's the attention of a president though I'm almost certain presidents get involved in picking 3 and four star generals/admirals.</p>
<p>On another note, James you are getting old.  I was a freshman in high school when you start at USMA and I now have 18 1/2 years in the Marine Corps.  Sorry, couldn't pass up the opportunity.</p>
<p>Semper Fi!</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick T. McGuire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick T. McGuire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having never been in the military, I can&#039;t comment specifically on this. However, from my many years in the business private sector, I can affirm that such circumstances occur regularly in the business world.

An individual who is seen as particularly gifted, industrious, or otherwise noteworthy is generally considered a threat to the positions of those above him/her on the corporate ladder. While these corporate superiors are keen to make use of such a person&#039;s talents, frequently even taking credit for his/her accomplishments, they are also careful to keep him/her from gaining any exposure that might lead to promotion so as to protect their own positions.

I have personally seen many cases where outstanding employees in an organization work hard for years only to get nowhere and end up quitting out of frustration. Conversely, I have seen individuals who excelled at butt-kissing (but nothing else) go on to reach high levels in corporate management.

All this seems to give credence to Darwin&#039;s theory of survival of the fittest. Only in this case, it becomes survival of the wiliest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having never been in the military, I can't comment specifically on this. However, from my many years in the business private sector, I can affirm that such circumstances occur regularly in the business world.</p>
<p>An individual who is seen as particularly gifted, industrious, or otherwise noteworthy is generally considered a threat to the positions of those above him/her on the corporate ladder. While these corporate superiors are keen to make use of such a person's talents, frequently even taking credit for his/her accomplishments, they are also careful to keep him/her from gaining any exposure that might lead to promotion so as to protect their own positions.</p>
<p>I have personally seen many cases where outstanding employees in an organization work hard for years only to get nowhere and end up quitting out of frustration. Conversely, I have seen individuals who excelled at butt-kissing (but nothing else) go on to reach high levels in corporate management.</p>
<p>All this seems to give credence to Darwin's theory of survival of the fittest. Only in this case, it becomes survival of the wiliest.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, do those promotion boards know what the 3- and 4-star generals want?  If not, it&#039;d be surprising.  Not that this would be critical in the case of Col. Joe Schmoe, but with a prominent colonel?

Also, you&#039;re forgetting that one trademark of this administration is an unrelenting attack on bureaucratic processes, checks and balances, whenever they would frustrate the administration&#039;s political policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, do those promotion boards know what the 3- and 4-star generals want?  If not, it'd be surprising.  Not that this would be critical in the case of Col. Joe Schmoe, but with a prominent colonel?</p>
<p>Also, you're forgetting that one trademark of this administration is an unrelenting attack on bureaucratic processes, checks and balances, whenever they would frustrate the administration's political policies.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Bush is president, and has had an incredibly free hand (or rather, Rumsfield and Cheney have) in the selection of the higher generals for six years.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Senior generals are, essentially, political appointees.  One and two stars are not.  The former, especially, are picked by the same sort of promotion boards that pick field grade officers.  It&#039;s a purely  bureaucratic process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Bush is president, and has had an incredibly free hand (or rather, Rumsfield and Cheney have) in the selection of the higher generals for six years.</p></blockquote>
<p>Senior generals are, essentially, political appointees.  One and two stars are not.  The former, especially, are picked by the same sort of promotion boards that pick field grade officers.  It's a purely  bureaucratic process.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James:  &quot;He, naturally, blames Bush. That’s rather absurd, given that presidents don’t sit on promotion boards and that bureaucratic politics is a far more logical explanation. &quot;

Bush doesn&#039;t actually get a vote on promotion board meetings, so I guess we can ignore him?

This is certainly a unique view of the structure of authority and power in the US government.  I never knew this, but I stopped at Poli Sci 101 :0

Bush is president, and has had an incredibly free hand (or rather, Rumsfield and Cheney have) in the selection of the higher generals for six years.  Bush (&amp; R&amp;C) are also Republicans, which the overwhelming majority of officers also are (ie, Clinton would presumably have had far less influence).  Congress has been GOP for a bit, and remarkably supine under Bush &amp; C&amp;R.


However, I do partially agree with you - I&#039;d be willing to lay a good pitcher of beer that a bunch of generals who&#039;ve failed at COIN were happy to slip one in his back, due to his successes where they&#039;ve failed.

And given that &#039;Dereliction of Duty II - Worse than Before!&#039; is soon to be written, they probably had sh*t-eating grins on their faces when they did so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James:  "He, naturally, blames Bush. That&rsquo;s rather absurd, given that presidents don&rsquo;t sit on promotion boards and that bureaucratic politics is a far more logical explanation. "</p>
<p>Bush doesn't actually get a vote on promotion board meetings, so I guess we can ignore him?</p>
<p>This is certainly a unique view of the structure of authority and power in the US government.  I never knew this, but I stopped at Poli Sci 101 :0</p>
<p>Bush is president, and has had an incredibly free hand (or rather, Rumsfield and Cheney have) in the selection of the higher generals for six years.  Bush (&amp; R&amp;C) are also Republicans, which the overwhelming majority of officers also are (ie, Clinton would presumably have had far less influence).  Congress has been GOP for a bit, and remarkably supine under Bush &amp; C&amp;R.</p>
<p>However, I do partially agree with you - I'd be willing to lay a good pitcher of beer that a bunch of generals who've failed at COIN were happy to slip one in his back, due to his successes where they've failed.</p>
<p>And given that 'Dereliction of Duty II - Worse than Before!' is soon to be written, they probably had sh*t-eating grins on their faces when they did so.</p>
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		<title>By: SWJ Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>SWJ Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Contrary Peter Principle...&lt;/strong&gt;

Peter Principle: A colloquial principle of hierarchiology, stated as &quot;In a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence.&quot; Formulated by Dr. Laurence J. Peter in his 1968 book The Peter Principle, the principle pertains to the l...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Contrary Peter Principle...</strong></p>
<p>Peter Principle: A colloquial principle of hierarchiology, stated as "In a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence." Formulated by Dr. Laurence J. Peter in his 1968 book The Peter Principle, the principle pertains to the l...</p>
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		<title>By: Political Animal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Political Animal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Col. McMaster...&lt;/strong&gt;

COL. McMASTER....Aside from David Petraeus himself, probably the most celebrated soldier of the Iraq War has been Col. H.R. McMaster, author of Dereliction of Duty and the guy who had about a thousand newspaper articles written about him when he......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Col. McMaster...</strong></p>
<p>COL. McMASTER....Aside from David Petraeus himself, probably the most celebrated soldier of the Iraq War has been Col. H.R. McMaster, author of Dereliction of Duty and the guy who had about a thousand newspaper articles written about him when he......</p>
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The legendary Colonel H.R. McMaster has been passed over, for a second time, for promotion to flag rank.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have no idea what this means.  Does this have something to do with Harry Potter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The legendary Colonel H.R. McMaster has been passed over, for a second time, for promotion to flag rank.</p></blockquote>
<p>I have no idea what this means.  Does this have something to do with Harry Potter?</p>
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		<title>By: DC Loser</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC Loser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had hoped McMaster would make it to flag rank, perhaps even someday be the CSA.  But I&#039;m not surprised by this development either.  Whatever the reason of the promotion board, it&#039;s a sad reflection upon the Army as an institution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had hoped McMaster would make it to flag rank, perhaps even someday be the CSA.  But I'm not surprised by this development either.  Whatever the reason of the promotion board, it's a sad reflection upon the Army as an institution.</p>
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