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		<title>By: floyd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/huckabee_getting_harriett_miers_treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-254918</link>
		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That wasn&#039;t a OMG.... Christmas tree in the background ..... Nah; he&#039;s probably just growing a bush in his living room to show support  for the present administration.
 Whew!!... the hyperbole mongers can relax for a few seconds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That wasn't a OMG.... Christmas tree in the background ..... Nah; he's probably just growing a bush in his living room to show support  for the present administration.<br />
 Whew!!... the hyperbole mongers can relax for a few seconds.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“I immediately assumed that the cross imagery was on purpose when I saw that commercial”

I immediate assume it could have been purpose or maybe just a coincidence. When I saw the commercial without the highlighting that many shows put on the bookcase in back, I didn’t give it any relevance. 

Again it is much hype about how people interpret it though their bias perspective. Bias can be for or against a view. No one has shown any proof that it was intentional.
 
Even if it was intentional what is the big deal. Many politicians have used religious references. How many are intentional film coming out of a church or visiting a religious organization. It is only because many have tried to label Huck as being a religious zealot that it gets press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I immediately assumed that the cross imagery was on purpose when I saw that commercial”</p>
<p>I immediate assume it could have been purpose or maybe just a coincidence. When I saw the commercial without the highlighting that many shows put on the bookcase in back, I didn&rsquo;t give it any relevance. </p>
<p>Again it is much hype about how people interpret it though their bias perspective. Bias can be for or against a view. No one has shown any proof that it was intentional.</p>
<p>Even if it was intentional what is the big deal. Many politicians have used religious references. How many are intentional film coming out of a church or visiting a religious organization. It is only because many have tried to label Huck as being a religious zealot that it gets press.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huckabee is the direct result of the big tent party being taken over by the circus clowns. Those who despise and belittle traditional values enough to submit people like the ultra liberal and character/deprived Gulianni as a GOP candidate shouldn&#039;t be surprised when the Christians in the party revolt by putting up a poor choice like Pastor Mike.

300 million people in America and look at our lousy choices for leaders -present and future hopefuls: surely we can and need to do better!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huckabee is the direct result of the big tent party being taken over by the circus clowns. Those who despise and belittle traditional values enough to submit people like the ultra liberal and character/deprived Gulianni as a GOP candidate shouldn't be surprised when the Christians in the party revolt by putting up a poor choice like Pastor Mike.</p>
<p>300 million people in America and look at our lousy choices for leaders -present and future hopefuls: surely we can and need to do better!</p>
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		<title>By: Muwatallis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muwatallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue is only partially religion.  It is primarily class.

Huckabee&#039;s combination of social conservatism and economic populism precisely reflects the cultural values and economic interests of working class and lower middle class Americans whom the GOP always expected to be the footsoldiers of cheap labor free trade policies that decimate them.  Well, the rabble are pushing back.  This isn&#039;t just about religion (well, given that GOP libertarian elites have no respect for Christians or Christianity it is largely so).  It is about the same populists vs  cheap labor elites power struggle we saw over &quot;comprehensive immigration reform&quot;.  And the American people are on the populist side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue is only partially religion.  It is primarily class.</p>
<p>Huckabee's combination of social conservatism and economic populism precisely reflects the cultural values and economic interests of working class and lower middle class Americans whom the GOP always expected to be the footsoldiers of cheap labor free trade policies that decimate them.  Well, the rabble are pushing back.  This isn't just about religion (well, given that GOP libertarian elites have no respect for Christians or Christianity it is largely so).  It is about the same populists vs  cheap labor elites power struggle we saw over "comprehensive immigration reform".  And the American people are on the populist side.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;People seeing floating crosses from a bookcase in the background only shows their own bigotry&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For what it is worth, I am a regular church-attender at a religiously conservative church and have a Southern Baptist background and I immediately assumed that the cross imagery was on purpose when I saw that commercial.  I see no reason that thinking that is bigoted.

And really, I think one of the previous commenters is quite correct:  Huckabee himself has made religion part of this debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>People seeing floating crosses from a bookcase in the background only shows their own bigotry</p></blockquote>
<p>For what it is worth, I am a regular church-attender at a religiously conservative church and have a Southern Baptist background and I immediately assumed that the cross imagery was on purpose when I saw that commercial.  I see no reason that thinking that is bigoted.</p>
<p>And really, I think one of the previous commenters is quite correct:  Huckabee himself has made religion part of this debate.</p>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron in Florida;
             I have followed Rush&#039;s career from Cape Giradeau on. There is no doubt that he has abandoned the values that made him great and joined the &quot;Conservative elite&quot;. Actually maybe just the &quot;corporate elite&quot; since he is hardly a conservative anymore.
 I agree with your point entirely!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron in Florida;<br />
             I have followed Rush's career from Cape Giradeau on. There is no doubt that he has abandoned the values that made him great and joined the "Conservative elite". Actually maybe just the "corporate elite" since he is hardly a conservative anymore.<br />
 I agree with your point entirely!</p>
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		<title>By: bains</title>
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		<dc:creator>bains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t like people making this a religious issue.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Huckabee made religion an issue.  But yes, the focus on his xmas commercial is over the top.  That, and it doesnt bother me one whit (I&#039;m agnostic) said, if he or his campaign did not see how the background could be construed as a cross, then both he and his campaign are really obtuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don&rsquo;t like people making this a religious issue.</p></blockquote>
<p> Huckabee made religion an issue.  But yes, the focus on his xmas commercial is over the top.  That, and it doesnt bother me one whit (I'm agnostic) said, if he or his campaign did not see how the background could be construed as a cross, then both he and his campaign are really obtuse.</p>
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		<title>By: twain</title>
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		<dc:creator>twain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Fiscal conservatives think he’s too liberal on spending, social conservatives think he’s too liberal on immigration, and libertarian conservatives think he’s too religious.&lt;/em&gt;

Hm... seems like the perfect choice. I mean, that&#039;s what they&#039;re going to get anyway. Or rather: that&#039;s what they&#039;re going to complain about, no matter who wins the nomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Fiscal conservatives think he&rsquo;s too liberal on spending, social conservatives think he&rsquo;s too liberal on immigration, and libertarian conservatives think he&rsquo;s too religious.</em></p>
<p>Hm... seems like the perfect choice. I mean, that's what they're going to get anyway. Or rather: that's what they're going to complain about, no matter who wins the nomination.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don’t like people making this a religious issue. Huckabee has my attention but I would like more information. Many of these bogus attacks make me question all the attacks on him. Also many of these religious orientated attacks may come off as an attack on Christianity. I believe many are tired of attacks on Christianity and may give support to Huckabee in response to it. I like Huck to stand and fall on his own character and not as a symbol of religion.  

People seeing floating crosses from a bookcase in the background only shows their own bigotry. Knock it off and let us get back to real issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&rsquo;t like people making this a religious issue. Huckabee has my attention but I would like more information. Many of these bogus attacks make me question all the attacks on him. Also many of these religious orientated attacks may come off as an attack on Christianity. I believe many are tired of attacks on Christianity and may give support to Huckabee in response to it. I like Huck to stand and fall on his own character and not as a symbol of religion.  </p>
<p>People seeing floating crosses from a bookcase in the background only shows their own bigotry. Knock it off and let us get back to real issues.</p>
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		<title>By: bains</title>
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		<dc:creator>bains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I have always been a &#039;Fox News&#039; and Rush fan, but now I am finding out just who the Conservative elite are...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The conservative elites you speak of have a fair grasp upon the overall pulse of right leaning voters.  Pro-life is not the end-all-be-all issue.  Moreover, being right on this issue while wrong on virtually all else hardly makes a conservative.  That is the reason for the recent scrutiny of Huckabee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have always been a 'Fox News' and Rush fan, but now I am finding out just who the Conservative elite are...</p></blockquote>
<p>The conservative elites you speak of have a fair grasp upon the overall pulse of right leaning voters.  Pro-life is not the end-all-be-all issue.  Moreover, being right on this issue while wrong on virtually all else hardly makes a conservative.  That is the reason for the recent scrutiny of Huckabee.</p>
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		<title>By: fester</title>
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		<dc:creator>fester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James --- Interesting, but I think both your analysis and Ambinger&#039;s analysis is missing something and that is the ability/willingness to pushback.  I have more at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://cernigsnewshog.blogspot.com/2007/12/elite-support-v-base-support.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NewsHog&lt;/a&gt;, but IIRC, Bush was about the only major champion for Miers, while everyone else in the Republican coalition&#039;s reaction ranged from &quot;Ehhh, why not&quot; to disgust at the lack of high level qualification that you attribute to conservative intellectuals. Miers had no significant stakeholder buy-in or powerful Senate backers.

Huckabee has a significant chunk of the GOP coalition as his stakeholders, Christian conservatives, and they are willing to push back and push back hard.  Miers had no one who was willing to push back in her defense.  

I still think Huckabee loses due to his lack of organizational capacity and the movement of primaries away from his friendly terrain, but I think his downfall will be significantly different than Miers that only looking at his opposition&#039;s similiarity to Miers is an analytical weakness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James --- Interesting, but I think both your analysis and Ambinger's analysis is missing something and that is the ability/willingness to pushback.  I have more at the <a href="http://cernigsnewshog.blogspot.com/2007/12/elite-support-v-base-support.html" rel="nofollow">NewsHog</a>, but IIRC, Bush was about the only major champion for Miers, while everyone else in the Republican coalition's reaction ranged from "Ehhh, why not" to disgust at the lack of high level qualification that you attribute to conservative intellectuals. Miers had no significant stakeholder buy-in or powerful Senate backers.</p>
<p>Huckabee has a significant chunk of the GOP coalition as his stakeholders, Christian conservatives, and they are willing to push back and push back hard.  Miers had no one who was willing to push back in her defense.  </p>
<p>I still think Huckabee loses due to his lack of organizational capacity and the movement of primaries away from his friendly terrain, but I think his downfall will be significantly different than Miers that only looking at his opposition's similiarity to Miers is an analytical weakness.</p>
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		<title>By: SJ Reidhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>SJ Reidhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the past few days on The Pink Flamingo I&#039;ve been predicting something like this would happen.  

SJ Reidhead
The Pink Flamingo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the past few days on The Pink Flamingo I've been predicting something like this would happen.  </p>
<p>SJ Reidhead<br />
The Pink Flamingo</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Plunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Plunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tano,

Now I&#039;m not a church going Christian conservative but I respect those who are and understand why they would see your remarks as offensive.

Twisting the conservative agenda in the way you do does a real disservice to serious debate concerning public policy.  &quot;War in instead of love&quot;?  How about freeing the oppressed and protecting America from terrorists?  You see it can be viewed very differently.  In fact all of the examples you cited can be viewed differently.

It is wrong for either side to invoke Christ as being on on their &quot;team&quot;.  The bible is very clear that our religious lives and sectarian lives are separate.  Public policy positions can sometimes seem harsh and un-Christian but may be grounded firmly in Christian beliefs.  Even then that doesn&#039;t mean they should get a pass as being good or justified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tano,</p>
<p>Now I'm not a church going Christian conservative but I respect those who are and understand why they would see your remarks as offensive.</p>
<p>Twisting the conservative agenda in the way you do does a real disservice to serious debate concerning public policy.  "War in instead of love"?  How about freeing the oppressed and protecting America from terrorists?  You see it can be viewed very differently.  In fact all of the examples you cited can be viewed differently.</p>
<p>It is wrong for either side to invoke Christ as being on on their "team".  The bible is very clear that our religious lives and sectarian lives are separate.  Public policy positions can sometimes seem harsh and un-Christian but may be grounded firmly in Christian beliefs.  Even then that doesn't mean they should get a pass as being good or justified.</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;he seems not to have any grasp of conservative principles beyond “What Would Jesus Do?”&quot;

Strange way of putting it. It seems that his interest in &quot;what jesus would do&quot; is the doorway to his liberalism, not the only example of his conservatism.

Is there any part of the modern American conservative agenda that aligns with the spirit of Jesus? 

War instead of love? Pursuit of ones private wealth instead of concern for one&#039;s fellow citizens? Fear of the &quot;other&quot; instead of embracing them?

Seems to me that the &quot;christian&quot; right promotes the least christ-like agenda possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"he seems not to have any grasp of conservative principles beyond “What Would Jesus Do?”"</p>
<p>Strange way of putting it. It seems that his interest in "what jesus would do" is the doorway to his liberalism, not the only example of his conservatism.</p>
<p>Is there any part of the modern American conservative agenda that aligns with the spirit of Jesus? </p>
<p>War instead of love? Pursuit of ones private wealth instead of concern for one's fellow citizens? Fear of the "other" instead of embracing them?</p>
<p>Seems to me that the "christian" right promotes the least christ-like agenda possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron in Florida</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron in Florida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always been a &#039;Fox News&#039; and Rush fan, but now I am finding out just who the Conservative elite are (the pundits that are controlled by the big business czars)!

I always thought Fox News was fair and balanced, but I now know that that statement is one of the biggest lies in the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always been a 'Fox News' and Rush fan, but now I am finding out just who the Conservative elite are (the pundits that are controlled by the big business czars)!</p>
<p>I always thought Fox News was fair and balanced, but I now know that that statement is one of the biggest lies in the media.</p>
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