It goes even beyond that, as it appears that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was asked about the Iraq-9/11 connection, probably during one of his torture sessions...

Can you show me anywhere where anyone claimed Iraq was involved in 9/11 besides from left wingers claiming conservatives most often Bush said it?

Well Cheney kept insisting that Mohammad Atta (the head 9/11 hijacker) met with Iraqi intelligence agents in Prague, right up until it was conclusively proven to be BS.

That work for you?

Using a very small percentage of a large group to reflect on the whole group instead of what the vast majority of that group does is unfair. The ”military” teaches better ethics but there will always have a few strays.

A) in the abstract, it depends on how statistically significant the "very small group" is
B) in the concrete, it isn't a "very small group" (is that officially the new euphemism replacing "a few bad apples"?) in this case, it is an organizational culture that has deep and serious problems.

No, I think I'll leave your bald-faced defensive attempt to change the subject, to hang on it's own merits, as I said.

Dude, you were the one who commented "And isn't it interesting how a bunch of anti-war leftists are now suddenly experts in military tactics?"

After YOU opened that door, I invited you to have a discussion so that we could determine who knows what on the subject. You then made a tactical retreat run like the wind. When challenge, You obviously are not up to the task.

No, I think I'll leave your bald-faced defensive attempt to change the subject, to hang on it's own merits, as I said.

Dude, you were the one who commented "And isn't it interesting how a bunch of anti-war leftists are now suddenly experts in military tactics?"

After YOU opened that door, I invited you to have a discussion so that we could determine who knows what on the subject. You then made a tactical retreat run like the wind. When challenge, You obviously are not up to the task.

Oh, and please do get back to me when you are ready to man up and have that little discussion on military strategy and tactics.

No, I think I'll leave your bald-faced defensive attempt to change the subject, to hang on it's own merits, as I said.

it's the pride in it

Well bit, I know I am not an elite explorer trained fighting man and music server administrator like you, but yes, I do take some pride in basing my political thinking on reason and actual facts.

Since you are joining forces with Wayne, ask him to tell you about how he once schooled me on web design :)

Oh, and please do get back to me when you are ready to man up and have that little discussion on military strategy and tactics.

The Explorer Program is for young adults thinking of making a careeer in law enforcement.

Or, many fire depts hsve Explporer posts, many nursing staffs have them, Many Ambulance squads have them. Indeed, just about any profession you might come up with, has them, and all of them for the purpose of allowing young people to explore in a guided setting, making a careeer in whatever the Explorer post is set up for.

Yes Bit I know trying to reason with anjin is a waste of time but it is fun to play in the deeply disturb end at times.

(Shrug) There is that. I suppose I can understand how he'd adopt the flawed reasoning he does, but it's the pride in it, even after it's been exposed as such for all to see, that escapes me.

I don't think you'll want to know what that accomplishment is, however.

Hey, it's the only guy we know with a dedicated music server!

Surprised you have time for us bit. Now that we know you are some kind of hardcore badass who spends his spare time punk-slapping armed men. You are just an all around amazing dude. Thanks for sharing!