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Filter Spam » Filter Spam - Akismet blog spam statistics — Sat, 27 May 2006 06:08:54 +0000

[...] Illegal Immigration the New Slavery?Outside Beltway - The idea that illegal immigration is the new slavery of the 21st century is a risable notion. Slavery, as it has been seen historically is the outright ownership of one person by another. To come to the conclusion that illegal immigration is a new [...]

By: Steve Verdon

Steve Verdon — Fri, 26 May 2006 16:26:18 +0000

is balko so illinformed as to believe slavery was somehow practiced only in america and only by whites owning blacks? that amounts only to a provincial form of racism.

No, but that is the type of racism that was practiced in the U.S. And racism elsewhere in the world tends to look pretty much the same save for a change in the races, so overall his point still stands.

By: floyd

floyd — Fri, 26 May 2006 02:33:26 +0000

is balko so illinformed as to believe slavery was somehow practiced only in america and only by whites owning blacks? that amounts only to a provincial form of racism.

By: Steve Verdon

Steve Verdon — Thu, 25 May 2006 21:25:23 +0000

Legion,

I can understand having reservations about a government administered guest worker program...we are talking about the government after all. However, typically indentured servants have a contract where they work for a period of time for no pay and just accomodations, food, etc. So a guest worker program is above that. And since an indentured servant is technically above a slave, a guest worker is far from a slave...by any definition.

Or as yetanotherjohn noted, if guest workers and illegals are (wage) slaves, then so am I and I think I make pretty decent money.

By: legion

legion — Thu, 25 May 2006 20:55:23 +0000

I certainly agree that the two activities don't compare, either on a moral or legal level. That said, I have significant problems with some of the proposals for guest worker programs that have been floated... I've seen such concepts used in various middle eastern countries, and while it still doesn't quite equate to slavery per se, it's not very different from indentured servitude...

By: yetanotherjohn

yetanotherjohn — Thu, 25 May 2006 20:33:38 +0000

One other point to add. In addition to the voluntary coming to the US, free to quit, etc., they also have the freedom to send wages home and return where they came from. Given any definition of slavery in history (Roman, viking, feudal peasants, US slaves, Jews under the Nazis) and you can see that the freedom to stop and go somewhere else is a the big thing lacking in all those past slaves. Now if you want to claim that they are under economic duress to come here for a job and stay here, then I am a slave also. I can think of things I would rather be doing than the work I do, but the roof over the head, food on the table, clothes on the back, etc. force me into my slavery to work. The number of people these things don't "force into slavery" is pretty small.

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By: Riehl World View

Riehl World View — Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000

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