Comments on: Intelligent Design Belittles God

By: floyd

floyd — Thu, 02 Feb 2006 01:41:31 +0000

steve; you have precisely stated the problem. "with science the assumption is that there is nothing outside of nature". therefore without seeking God's ways, you can't be qualified to make the statement that death is a prerequisite to such knowledge,besides such knowledge is apparent in nature as seen from the perspective of the spirit.i recognize that these can be separate areas of exploration,but not mutually exclusive since each can aide in the understanding of the other.now; what is the meaning of the seeming non-sequituer, "and eventually we'll detect it". what is "it".

By: Steve Verdon

Steve Verdon — Wed, 01 Feb 2006 05:51:39 +0000

Charles, Actually, nothing the order and other aspects of the universe point to naturalism, or at least don't help the idea that it was God who created the universe.

Im confident that God exists and whats more, He created everything including me. How He did it is immaterial, but some people arent satisfied unless it aligns with the first chapter of Genesis.

I don't see any problems here, unless one has to try and apply this view to science. Including the supernatural in science stops science dead in its tracks. Might as well go back to the dark ages with alchemy, witches and other nonsense.

Gods ways hold no mystery that wont be revealed to those who patiently seek them in truth.

I know I'm being redundant, but this is precisely the problem. With science the assumption is that there is nothing that is outside of nature and eventually we'll detect it (directly or indirectly). God on the other hand is above nature and hence you can't make the analogy you are making Floyd. The only way one may ever find out is when one is no longer able to communicate one's findings.

By: Charles W. Stricklin

Charles W. Stricklin — Wed, 01 Feb 2006 05:28:05 +0000

I disagree that the search for, and the inclusion of evidence supporting the idea that the universe is orderly and therefore, elegantly and simply designed somehow demeans or belittles God, but I agree with you that proponents of ID quickly discard anything that doesn't follow their narrow interpretation of Creation.

I'm confident that God exists and what's more, He created everything including me. How He did it is immaterial, but some people aren't satisfied unless it aligns with the first chapter of Genesis.

By: floyd

floyd — Wed, 01 Feb 2006 03:31:16 +0000

steve;science is pretty mysterious to those that don't understand it. yet,how many scientists are saying "science works in mysterious ways"? just as science holds no mystery that won't be revealed to those who patiently seek the truth; God's ways hold no mystery that won't be revealed to those who patiently seek them in truth.