Comments on: Iraq Closer to Chaos, Government Demands Looser Security

By: PoliBlog: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts » What’s More Important: Keeping Rumsfeld or Kerry’s Foot-in-Mouth?

Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:56:15 +0000

[...] If one read Diamond’s book or Woodward, and I presume as well Rick’s book Fiasco, one gets the decided impression that Rumsfeld wholly dismissed the need for a means to deal with the post-invasion situation and now we are in dire straits (see, for example, here for evidence of that fact). Filed under: Iraq, US Politics | |Send TrackBack [...]

By: legion

legion — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:19:52 +0000

This is the logical step for John Yoo and Cheney’s Unitary Executive theory.

Ahhhh... the old "they hate us for our freedom, so let's abolish all our freedoms" strategy.

Admit it, triumph - you _are_ Stephen Colbert!

By: One Hand Clapping » Blog Archive » Iraq near chaos?

One Hand Clapping » Blog Archive » Iraq near chaos? — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:56:02 +0000

[...] OOTB cites an NYT piece that uses US Central Command’s own internal assessments that Iraq is sliding closer to chaos. [...]

By: Polimom Says » Meanwhile, Iraq’s going over the cliff

Polimom Says » Meanwhile, Iraq’s going over the cliff — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:35:37 +0000

[...] I’m far too angry, frankly, for calm analysis (I recommend here, here, and here for coherent thought). I just want answers to a few questions: [...]

By: anjin-san

anjin-san — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:04:28 +0000

Hey Triumph,

Did you see this on a documentary on ABC?

By: In Search Of Utopia

In Search Of Utopia — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:00:02 +0000

Iraq "moving" towards chaos?...

Does that qualify as understatement of the year... or what? I think the situation in Iraq has BEEN chaos for a LONG time! WASHINGTON, Oct. 30 - A classified briefing prepared two weeks ago by the United States Central Command......

By: Triumph

Triumph — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:17:20 +0000

Ummm… that could, if actually swallowed, explain violence and unrest over the last month or two.

Listen, legion, I am only working with the logic that the Commander-in-Chief gives me.

Sounds like the only way to stop the violence is to abolish elections here altogether…

This is the logical step for John Yoo and Cheney's Unitary Executive theory.

By: legion

legion — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:01:20 +0000

Triumph,
Ummm... that could, if actually swallowed, explain violence and unrest over the last month or two. But "chaos in Iraq and Bush’s inability to control the situation there" has been going on ever since day one. Is every car bomb or beheading there meant to influence the "next" US election, regardless of when that is? Sounds like the only way to stop the violence is to abolish elections here altogether...

These assessments are coming from Bush and Cheney. According to their own estimation, these guys are moral standouts and are above board.

Now I _know_ you're just pulling my leg...

By: Daniel DiRito

Daniel DiRito — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:43:47 +0000

I find it interesting that the Bush administration wants to focus on the words of a Senator on the campaign trail in California while virtually every intelligent observer believes that the "stay the course" effort in Iraq is putting our troops in harms way. If the President is actually concerned for our troops, why doesn't he admit his administration's mistakes and focus his energy on crafting a new war strategy rather than a new political strategy...but that would require him to be less concerned with political power and more concerned with protecting our troops...troops he enjoys waving around like a cheap campaign sign when he thinks that will win him votes...the same troops that died in near record numbers in October in a war the President declared we had won more than two years ago. Read more here: www.thoughttheater.com

By: Triumph

Triumph — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:19:26 +0000

Give me one fact that would support your position that voting for a democrat is a vote for terrorists.

Spencer: Bush made plain as day just two days ago. Democratic win= "The terrorists win and America loses"

But assuming the former, the quantity of narcotics necessary to actually believe the quoted sentence is truly staggering.

Legion, you obviously missed Cheney's interview on Fox news the other night. Referring to the terrorists he said, "It's my belief that they're very sensitive of the fact that we've got an election scheduled...they can break the will of the American people, that's what they're trying to do." These assessments are coming from Bush and Cheney. According to their own estimation, these guys are moral standouts and are above board.

By: legion

legion — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:52:28 +0000

The ensuing chaos in Iraq and Bush’s inability to control the situation there is further evidence of Democratic incompetence.

I'm never sure if Triumph is serious, or just Stephen Colbert posting under an alias. But assuming the former, the quantity of narcotics necessary to actually believe the quoted sentence is truly staggering.

By: spencer

spencer — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:35:28 +0000

Some people have refered to the pull-out of American troops from Baghdad as George Bush cutting and running.

But it sure seems strange that the administration is working overtime to distract everyone with the Kerry comments and keep this abject failure in Baghdad out of the news.

Which should be important factor in your vote, Kerry muffing a joke or Bush pulling US troops out of Baghdad?

By: spencer

spencer — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:28:16 +0000

Triumph -- the American people voted for the republicans 6 years ago, four years ago and two years ago.

Over that time the terrorists have had many victories and few loses. the chart by CENTOM
clearly shows the great success of Bush.

By the way, where is Ben laden?

There were two World Trade Center attacks.
One in 1993 under Clinton. The Democratic administration captured and prosecuted the ring leader, Sheik Abdel-Rahman and he is now in federal prison.

Now 5 years later the Bush administration does not even seem to know where Ben Laden is.
Moreover, Clinton captured the Sheik with no loss of American lives. But Bush has wasted almost 3,000 good American lives in his pathetic
attempt to fight --lose -- the war on terror.

Give me one fact that would support your position that voting for a democrat is a vote for
terrorists. I can give you thousands that shows just the opposite and that is the reason Ben Laden apparently thanks God every day that he has George Bush as an enemy.

By: ken

ken — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:00:34 +0000

James, I told you years ago that this war was lost the moment it started. Americans will not support a war based upon lies. It looks like the Iraqies also have little tolerance for supporting conservative lies. Perhaps that is a small but telling data point in our common humanity.

Too bad you guys had to kill so many innocent people for this point to come out.

By: Anderson

Anderson — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:28:34 +0000

What Legion and Dave said. The Americans are unlikely to put a bullet in Maliki's skull. Not so his "allies" in the militias. It's not "counterinsurgency" to him if it's targeting the guys who are keeping him alive & in "power." The *real* news & conclusion here is that we should Get.The.Hell.Out. Had the bad guys been Maliki's foes, would he have ordered us to stand down? Not at all. We are becoming hired guns in the Iraqi civil war.