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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me Legion that you started the &quot;Insults&quot; in your first reply to my comment.

Why is it that it is OK for to issue insults and no one else has that right?

Seems to me that you are a lefty that continues to insult and degrade others when they disagree to your left wing liberal views. That, was and has been, the entire thrust of the Democrats and the Democratic party.

You, and the Democrats have put the lives of every American in a more dangerous position with your &quot;Cut and Run&quot;, defeatist words, attitudes , and rhetoric and I sir, resent every word you utter and put here on OTB.

You Legion are a &quot;Danger&quot; to me, my family and the entire country. The problem is &quot;that you should try thinking what your words do to aid those who would destroy us&quot;, and you don&#039;t. That Legion is why you are dangerous. 

And, you can count on me to tell everyone just how you endanger every American.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me Legion that you started the "Insults" in your first reply to my comment.</p>
<p>Why is it that it is OK for to issue insults and no one else has that right?</p>
<p>Seems to me that you are a lefty that continues to insult and degrade others when they disagree to your left wing liberal views. That, was and has been, the entire thrust of the Democrats and the Democratic party.</p>
<p>You, and the Democrats have put the lives of every American in a more dangerous position with your "Cut and Run", defeatist words, attitudes , and rhetoric and I sir, resent every word you utter and put here on OTB.</p>
<p>You Legion are a "Danger" to me, my family and the entire country. The problem is "that you should try thinking what your words do to aid those who would destroy us", and you don't. That Legion is why you are dangerous. </p>
<p>And, you can count on me to tell everyone just how you endanger every American.</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
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		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Herb. You wanna graduate from mindless troll to active target? Put up or shut up. I defy you:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I also wonder just what makes someone like Legion praise the terrorist and run down those who are protecting his worthless rear end and the insanity he espouses.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
One. Show me one single instance, in the entire archive of this or any other forum, where I have either praised terrorists or insulted our troops. One.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Tell me and everyone Legion, How many American Lives are you responsible for losing this past week, month, and year, with your Un American words and attitude.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You, sir, are beneath filth. You have insulted me, you have lied about me, you have no vague idea what you are talking about on any subject, and you have never contributed one single valuable comment to any thread I&#039;ve ever seen you participate in - I&#039;ve never seen you produce anything but insults. Some people can only lift themselves up by bringing others down to their level; you don&#039;t even try to raise yourself that way - you just want to throw mud. You are, in short, the worst sort of coward. Your only interest is to insult and degrade people who are attempting to discuss the real world; people far more worthwhile to the human race than you can ever hope to be. Good day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Herb. You wanna graduate from mindless troll to active target? Put up or shut up. I defy you:</p>
<blockquote><p>I also wonder just what makes someone like Legion praise the terrorist and run down those who are protecting his worthless rear end and the insanity he espouses.</p></blockquote>
<p>One. Show me one single instance, in the entire archive of this or any other forum, where I have either praised terrorists or insulted our troops. One.</p>
<blockquote><p>Tell me and everyone Legion, How many American Lives are you responsible for losing this past week, month, and year, with your Un American words and attitude.</p></blockquote>
<p>You, sir, are beneath filth. You have insulted me, you have lied about me, you have no vague idea what you are talking about on any subject, and you have never contributed one single valuable comment to any thread I've ever seen you participate in - I've never seen you produce anything but insults. Some people can only lift themselves up by bringing others down to their level; you don't even try to raise yourself that way - you just want to throw mud. You are, in short, the worst sort of coward. Your only interest is to insult and degrade people who are attempting to discuss the real world; people far more worthwhile to the human race than you can ever hope to be. Good day.</p>
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		<title>By: John Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 05:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the most likely scenario for getting out was that Michael jackson &quot;Moondance&quot; one. The one where we pretend to be marching forward to victory but...........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the most likely scenario for getting out was that Michael jackson "Moondance" one. The one where we pretend to be marching forward to victory but...........</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 00:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s guys like Legion that have done their level best to demoralize our troops with his constant rhetoric about the uselessness of the war in Iraq and Terror. I just wonder how many terrorist have been emboldened by rhetoric like this and have taken American lives with their new found friends that call themselves Americans.
I also wonder just what makes someone like Legion praise the terrorist and run down those who are protecting his worthless rear end and the insanity he espouses.

Typical of a democrat are guys like Legion that just don&#039;t stop with the anti US slogans, words, and self serving rhetoric that only hurts the troops fighting this war and serves only the enemy that takes our boys lives. 

Tell me and everyone Legion, How many American Lives are you responsible for losing this past week, month, and year,  with your Un American words and attitude. Or, are you just another blowhard that lets your rear end do your thinking for you, because your mouth knows better.

Sounds to me like you are the one in desperate need for medication.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's guys like Legion that have done their level best to demoralize our troops with his constant rhetoric about the uselessness of the war in Iraq and Terror. I just wonder how many terrorist have been emboldened by rhetoric like this and have taken American lives with their new found friends that call themselves Americans.<br />
I also wonder just what makes someone like Legion praise the terrorist and run down those who are protecting his worthless rear end and the insanity he espouses.</p>
<p>Typical of a democrat are guys like Legion that just don't stop with the anti US slogans, words, and self serving rhetoric that only hurts the troops fighting this war and serves only the enemy that takes our boys lives. </p>
<p>Tell me and everyone Legion, How many American Lives are you responsible for losing this past week, month, and year,  with your Un American words and attitude. Or, are you just another blowhard that lets your rear end do your thinking for you, because your mouth knows better.</p>
<p>Sounds to me like you are the one in desperate need for medication.</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the appropriate term for going long, as the game is just about up, is &quot;hail mary&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the appropriate term for going long, as the game is just about up, is "hail mary".</p>
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		<title>By: Cernig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cernig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 22:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tano, you nailed it. &quot;Going long&quot; is now the new label for &quot;stay the course&quot;.

James, I respectfully have to disagree with you. &quot;Stay the course/going long&quot; is no longer doable at all. A rose by any other name is &lt;a href=&quot;http://cernigsnewshog.blogspot.com/2006/11/thinking-about-iraq.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;still full of thorns&lt;/a&gt;.

Regards, Cernig</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tano, you nailed it. "Going long" is now the new label for "stay the course".</p>
<p>James, I respectfully have to disagree with you. "Stay the course/going long" is no longer doable at all. A rose by any other name is <a href="http://cernigsnewshog.blogspot.com/2006/11/thinking-about-iraq.html" rel="nofollow">still full of thorns</a>.</p>
<p>Regards, Cernig</p>
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		<title>By: Wake up America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wake up America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 20:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Go Big, Go Long or Go Home...&lt;/strong&gt;

There are many that refuse to even consider the possibility that we CAN stabilize Iraq and it does look difficult, but we are no strangers to difficulty. The alternate option of cutting and running and sitting back to wait for our enemies, emboldened.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Go Big, Go Long or Go Home...</strong></p>
<p>There are many that refuse to even consider the possibility that we CAN stabilize Iraq and it does look difficult, but we are no strangers to difficulty. The alternate option of cutting and running and sitting back to wait for our enemies, emboldened.....</p>
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		<title>By: Mensa Barbie Welcomes You</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mensa Barbie Welcomes You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 20:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;International Score-Keeping...&lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;Lack of International Support&quot;... No stronger element provides aid &amp; encouragement to these militant groups. Outsidethebeltway details the Pentagons (closely guarded view) - Iraq Options: Go Big, Go Long or Go Home...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>International Score-Keeping...</strong></p>
<p>"Lack of International Support"... No stronger element provides aid &amp; encouragement to these militant groups. Outsidethebeltway details the Pentagons (closely guarded view) - Iraq Options: Go Big, Go Long or Go Home...</p>
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		<title>By: JACK ARMY</title>
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		<dc:creator>JACK ARMY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Go Home?...&lt;/strong&gt;

Sorry, I am just frustrated about all this.  I am just amazed that people want to just stop what we are doing and bring all our troops home after all we&#039;ve done so far and all that is left to do.  Seriously, it is amazing what is going on in this cou....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Go Home?...</strong></p>
<p>Sorry, I am just frustrated about all this.  I am just amazed that people want to just stop what we are doing and bring all our troops home after all we've done so far and all that is left to do.  Seriously, it is amazing what is going on in this cou....</p>
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		<title>By: The Florida Masochist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shooting the messenger</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Florida Masochist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shooting the messenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update- James Joyner at OTB points out a Thomas Ricks&#8217; article in today&#8217;s Washington Post. A third strategy other than Going Big or Going home is Going Long. Which I think is the US most likely choice but I think the US can only win with Going Big at this point and I don&#8217;t see that happening.(As does James) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Update- James Joyner at OTB points out a Thomas Ricks&#8217; article in today&#8217;s Washington Post. A third strategy other than Going Big or Going home is Going Long. Which I think is the US most likely choice but I think the US can only win with Going Big at this point and I don&#8217;t see that happening.(As does James) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
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		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;It’s guys like you that have only a political agenda and the desire to see American troops lose this war.&lt;/em&gt; 

Heh. I&#039;d be insulted if you weren&#039;t so clearly insane.

&lt;em&gt;I can not understand why you don’t have the courage to come right out and say that you are routing for the terrorist.&lt;/em&gt; 

I dunno, Herb. Maybe you should come out and admit that you want to see countless more US soldiers die attempting to achieve something in Iraq that &lt;em&gt;every sane person on the planet &lt;/em&gt;(including probationary members to that group like Tony Blair and Henry Kissenger) agrees &lt;em&gt;cannot be accomplished&lt;/em&gt;.

But to put something actually relevant into this comment, did anyone else notice this part?
&lt;blockquote&gt;The Pentagon group&#039;s proceedings are so secret that officials asked to help it have not even been told its title or mandate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Has anyone ranted about the horrible, horrible traitors at the WaPo printing our most classified seekrets yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It&rsquo;s guys like you that have only a political agenda and the desire to see American troops lose this war.</em> </p>
<p>Heh. I'd be insulted if you weren't so clearly insane.</p>
<p><em>I can not understand why you don&rsquo;t have the courage to come right out and say that you are routing for the terrorist.</em> </p>
<p>I dunno, Herb. Maybe you should come out and admit that you want to see countless more US soldiers die attempting to achieve something in Iraq that <em>every sane person on the planet </em>(including probationary members to that group like Tony Blair and Henry Kissenger) agrees <em>cannot be accomplished</em>.</p>
<p>But to put something actually relevant into this comment, did anyone else notice this part?</p>
<blockquote><p>The Pentagon group's proceedings are so secret that officials asked to help it have not even been told its title or mandate.</p></blockquote>
<p>Has anyone ranted about the horrible, horrible traitors at the WaPo printing our most classified seekrets yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doncha just love the great game of words?

Given that many have considered the terms &quot;cut and run&quot; and &quot;stay the course&quot; (and &quot;send more troops&quot;) as ridiculously over-simplified slogans rather than serious strategies, it is reassuring to see that the serious people have now fully fleshed out these terms into a set of detailed, complex alternative plans of action. &quot;Go home&quot;, &quot;go long&quot; (and &quot;go big&quot;).

Just when we start to think that our national leaders are devoid of ideas, they rise to the occasion and set out these new alternatives. And the choice that is being made seems to be a brilliant and insightful stroke. No longer will we be trapped in this &quot;stay the course&quot; policy, we going long!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doncha just love the great game of words?</p>
<p>Given that many have considered the terms "cut and run" and "stay the course" (and "send more troops") as ridiculously over-simplified slogans rather than serious strategies, it is reassuring to see that the serious people have now fully fleshed out these terms into a set of detailed, complex alternative plans of action. "Go home", "go long" (and "go big").</p>
<p>Just when we start to think that our national leaders are devoid of ideas, they rise to the occasion and set out these new alternatives. And the choice that is being made seems to be a brilliant and insightful stroke. No longer will we be trapped in this "stay the course" policy, we going long!</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Legion:

Nice to see that you are still on the back page reading from right to left.

It&#039;s guys like you that have only a political agenda and the desire to see American troops lose this war. You and Murtha seem to have something in common and Congresswoman Schmidt had both of you pegged.

I can not understand why you don&#039;t have the courage to come right out and say that you are routing for the terrorist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legion:</p>
<p>Nice to see that you are still on the back page reading from right to left.</p>
<p>It's guys like you that have only a political agenda and the desire to see American troops lose this war. You and Murtha seem to have something in common and Congresswoman Schmidt had both of you pegged.</p>
<p>I can not understand why you don't have the courage to come right out and say that you are routing for the terrorist.</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
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		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh, Herb. I&#039;ve missed your particularly rabid brand of insanity lately. Certainly, everyone in Iraq carrying a big, colorful &quot;I AM A TERRORIST INSURGENT&quot; sign should be shot on sight. Then we can burn down a few villages, just to show that we bean business.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Setting up two strawmen so that the alternative preferred all along looks great by comparison is a classic bureaucratic strategy. Both “Go Big” and “Go Home,” in their purest forms, as non-starters for reasons outlined above. That leaves “Go Long.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
James, you have hit the nail on the head. Anybody who has not been in a coma for the last 5 years knows full well that &quot;go long&quot; is the only solution Bush will follow - those other choice literally aren&#039;t even on the table, outside of an op-ed page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh, Herb. I've missed your particularly rabid brand of insanity lately. Certainly, everyone in Iraq carrying a big, colorful "I AM A TERRORIST INSURGENT" sign should be shot on sight. Then we can burn down a few villages, just to show that we bean business.</p>
<blockquote><p>Setting up two strawmen so that the alternative preferred all along looks great by comparison is a classic bureaucratic strategy. Both “Go Big” and “Go Home,” in their purest forms, as non-starters for reasons outlined above. That leaves “Go Long.”</p></blockquote>
<p>James, you have hit the nail on the head. Anybody who has not been in a coma for the last 5 years knows full well that "go long" is the only solution Bush will follow - those other choice literally aren't even on the table, outside of an op-ed page.</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as we have the goody goody people in Washington and around the country that have demanded that we fight a &quot;Clean&quot; war, the entire Iraq situation is almost hopeless. Those who have made gigantic issues of the ways and methods we use to question insurgents and terrorist have hamstrung our troops and those who conduct the war and those who are in the best position to say how and what methods we use to interrogate those who hide behind the skirts of their female population.

Until we start getting real tough on those who &quot;fade into the population&quot; and start shooting a few of the terrorist on the spot, the problems will persist.

As the entire war is now going, our troops have been nothing more than targets and we as Americans have McCain, Durbin, Kerry, Murtha and a host of other &quot;Experts&quot; and politic ans, who think only of their political futures,  to thank for the present situation in Iraq and the continued increase in the number of troops killed and wounded

Until we as Americans start thinking about &quot;winning&quot; this war and consider the enemy as the enemy that should be destroyed, the terrorist have the winning hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as we have the goody goody people in Washington and around the country that have demanded that we fight a "Clean" war, the entire Iraq situation is almost hopeless. Those who have made gigantic issues of the ways and methods we use to question insurgents and terrorist have hamstrung our troops and those who conduct the war and those who are in the best position to say how and what methods we use to interrogate those who hide behind the skirts of their female population.</p>
<p>Until we start getting real tough on those who "fade into the population" and start shooting a few of the terrorist on the spot, the problems will persist.</p>
<p>As the entire war is now going, our troops have been nothing more than targets and we as Americans have McCain, Durbin, Kerry, Murtha and a host of other "Experts" and politic ans, who think only of their political futures,  to thank for the present situation in Iraq and the continued increase in the number of troops killed and wounded</p>
<p>Until we as Americans start thinking about "winning" this war and consider the enemy as the enemy that should be destroyed, the terrorist have the winning hand.</p>
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