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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Metrics shmetrics.  The Petraeus report is moot, anyway, except insofar as it provides political cover for the U. S. political leadership to do what they&#039;re already planning to do.  This is true of Republicans &lt;b&gt;and&lt;/b&gt; Democrats, protestations of the netroots notwithstanding.  Note that in the Democratic &#147;debate&#148; yesterday all of the first-tier Democratic candidates defended their positions, i.e. to leave a substantial &#147;residual force&#148; in Iraq for the foreseeable future against Bill Richardson&#039;s challenge for a justification (and Dennis Kucinich&#039;s condemnation).

The critical questions in my view are whether the  worst case scenario is sufficiently worse than the &lt;i&gt;status quo&lt;/i&gt; and how likely it is to come to pass.  I believe that intelligent people can differ on this but I&#039;ve got to admit that I find it nerve-wracking that those who favor immediate withdrawal rely so heavily on rosy predictions that I find hard to reconcile with the incentives in place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Metrics shmetrics.  The Petraeus report is moot, anyway, except insofar as it provides political cover for the U. S. political leadership to do what they're already planning to do.  This is true of Republicans <b>and</b> Democrats, protestations of the netroots notwithstanding.  Note that in the Democratic &#8220;debate&#8221; yesterday all of the first-tier Democratic candidates defended their positions, i.e. to leave a substantial &#8220;residual force&#8221; in Iraq for the foreseeable future against Bill Richardson's challenge for a justification (and Dennis Kucinich's condemnation).</p>
<p>The critical questions in my view are whether the  worst case scenario is sufficiently worse than the <i>status quo</i> and how likely it is to come to pass.  I believe that intelligent people can differ on this but I've got to admit that I find it nerve-wracking that those who favor immediate withdrawal rely so heavily on rosy predictions that I find hard to reconcile with the incentives in place.</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/iraq_progress_metrics/comment-page-1/#comment-142881</link>
		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;One thing that almost everyone agrees is that things aren’t going to be noticeably better, especially on the all-important political front, next month.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well, given that the Iraqi gov&#039;t is taking August off, that&#039;s pretty self-evident. Unfortunately, when you take into account that Austin &amp; you are correct about the most important indicator - the gov&#039;t increasingly governing - it pretty much puts the lie to the surge having any net positive impact. It&#039;s nice that we&#039;ve re-painted the living room, but the actual &lt;em&gt;house &lt;/em&gt;is still &lt;em&gt;on fire...&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>One thing that almost everyone agrees is that things aren&rsquo;t going to be noticeably better, especially on the all-important political front, next month.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, given that the Iraqi gov't is taking August off, that's pretty self-evident. Unfortunately, when you take into account that Austin &amp; you are correct about the most important indicator - the gov't increasingly governing - it pretty much puts the lie to the surge having any net positive impact. It's nice that we've re-painted the living room, but the actual <em>house </em>is still <em>on fire...</em></p>
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