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	<title>Comments on: Iraqi Police Should Be Scrapped, Army Far From Ready</title>
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		<title>By: larry d. allen</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/iraqi_police_should_be_scrapped_army_far_from_ready/comment-page-1/#comment-150052</link>
		<dc:creator>larry d. allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my recently released book, Resurrecting the Iraqi Police / Observations of an American street cop in Iraq, I point out the problems of mass hiring for the Iraqi Police. Not everyone should be a cop. Iraq is a perfect example of the misconception that a military force can train and establish a civilian police force. The book is available at www.copsbooks.com.I think you will find answers and solutions to problems with the Iraqi police</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my recently released book, Resurrecting the Iraqi Police / Observations of an American street cop in Iraq, I point out the problems of mass hiring for the Iraqi Police. Not everyone should be a cop. Iraq is a perfect example of the misconception that a military force can train and establish a civilian police force. The book is available at <a href="http://www.copsbooks.com.I" rel="nofollow">http://www.copsbooks.com.I</a> think you will find answers and solutions to problems with the Iraqi police</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the only really big and stupid mistake we made was not executing Moqtada al-Sadr and destroying his &quot;Army&quot; on site.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well, okay Dan.  Good luck convincing people that the only big mistkae we made in Iraq was not executing Sadr.  Really, really good luck with that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the only really big and stupid mistake we made was not executing Moqtada al-Sadr and destroying his "Army" on site.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, okay Dan.  Good luck convincing people that the only big mistkae we made in Iraq was not executing Sadr.  Really, really good luck with that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh - and it&#039;s not &quot;too late&quot; to simply destroy Sadr, his little bitch Maliki, and the entire theo-gang structure that can be distinguished from the actual clerical ulama centered around 
Sistani.  

Or how long are we just going to watch this crap occur?  And then, should the anti-war party succeed soon, we pull out - and, following a bloodbath, an Iranian stooge succeeds because only Iran can provide the firepower and logistics for the Shia to dominate? 

And then...?  Hezbollah and Iran join hands, while the rest of the world gratifies itself with &quot;Down with USA! We Told You So!&quot;

And meanwhile, the Russians, French, and Chinese just laugh and laugh...

Well, hopefully once the hippies and their drones are gone, things will return to a more natural perspective.  Or else they could become the generation of Americans who, their parents having secured the world for them, like proper prodigals pissed it all away in a narcissistic fantasy of world-historical, self-inflicted proportions.

Actually, that would make pretty good future reading, so I&#039;m kind of torn.  Fucking morons though, undoubtedly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh - and it's not "too late" to simply destroy Sadr, his little bitch Maliki, and the entire theo-gang structure that can be distinguished from the actual clerical ulama centered around<br />
Sistani.  </p>
<p>Or how long are we just going to watch this crap occur?  And then, should the anti-war party succeed soon, we pull out - and, following a bloodbath, an Iranian stooge succeeds because only Iran can provide the firepower and logistics for the Shia to dominate? </p>
<p>And then...?  Hezbollah and Iran join hands, while the rest of the world gratifies itself with "Down with USA! We Told You So!"</p>
<p>And meanwhile, the Russians, French, and Chinese just laugh and laugh...</p>
<p>Well, hopefully once the hippies and their drones are gone, things will return to a more natural perspective.  Or else they could become the generation of Americans who, their parents having secured the world for them, like proper prodigals pissed it all away in a narcissistic fantasy of world-historical, self-inflicted proportions.</p>
<p>Actually, that would make pretty good future reading, so I'm kind of torn.  Fucking morons though, undoubtedly.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason you silly bastards refuse to look at the human beings who once comprised the Iraqi armed forces and who today are so non-compliant with any semblance of Western standards. 

The Iraqi army was not dissolved so much as it spontaneously decomposed.  The decision not to continue to pay the armed forces is another matter, but frankly, the whole Ba&#039;ath structure required pulling down where it didn&#039;t spontaneously disintegrate, so this is just one more thing.  Or perhaps we should have perpetuated the Sunni officer corps vs. Shiite dog infantry?  That would not have been wise either. 

Secondly, the corruption of the police and the &quot;second command structure&quot; that ITM points out only underscores a fact that surprisingly few people are capable of inferring about the Iraq &quot;quagmire&quot;: the only really big and stupid mistake we made was not executing Moqtada al-Sadr and destroying his &quot;Army&quot; on site.  The alternative?  He has now become a kingmaker - but since he&#039;s an Iraqi, he&#039;s not competent enough to pull it off, so instead he just warps the whole would-be system and makes it irreprable by reason and reasonable methods alone. 

And all the while, the Democrats carp, despite the fact that even IRAQIS can&#039;t quite pull the house down on their own heads, much as they&#039;d apparently love to. 

But keep your chins up, morons; we&#039;ll be there for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason you silly bastards refuse to look at the human beings who once comprised the Iraqi armed forces and who today are so non-compliant with any semblance of Western standards. </p>
<p>The Iraqi army was not dissolved so much as it spontaneously decomposed.  The decision not to continue to pay the armed forces is another matter, but frankly, the whole Ba'ath structure required pulling down where it didn't spontaneously disintegrate, so this is just one more thing.  Or perhaps we should have perpetuated the Sunni officer corps vs. Shiite dog infantry?  That would not have been wise either. </p>
<p>Secondly, the corruption of the police and the "second command structure" that ITM points out only underscores a fact that surprisingly few people are capable of inferring about the Iraq "quagmire": the only really big and stupid mistake we made was not executing Moqtada al-Sadr and destroying his "Army" on site.  The alternative?  He has now become a kingmaker - but since he's an Iraqi, he's not competent enough to pull it off, so instead he just warps the whole would-be system and makes it irreprable by reason and reasonable methods alone. </p>
<p>And all the while, the Democrats carp, despite the fact that even IRAQIS can't quite pull the house down on their own heads, much as they'd apparently love to. </p>
<p>But keep your chins up, morons; we'll be there for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone seriously think that the police corruption will be stopped through &quot;retraining&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone seriously think that the police corruption will be stopped through "retraining"?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the link and the compliment, James. I appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the link and the compliment, James. I appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;One could argue that the force could be vetted in place, simply weeding out the bad apples. Presumably, the report will explain why that&#039;s not feasible.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Here&#039;s a wild guess:
75+% of the force is made up of &quot;bad apples&quot; given that the police force is just a cover for sectarian militias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>One could argue that the force could be vetted in place, simply weeding out the bad apples. Presumably, the report will explain why that's not feasible.</p></blockquote>
<p>Here's a wild guess:<br />
75+% of the force is made up of "bad apples" given that the police force is just a cover for sectarian militias.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just f-ing great - this will likely add another year to our forces being there - when will the incompetence stop? - didn&#039;t anyone see this coming? - who monitors this? - i suppose all of the weapons (that we haven&#039;t lost accountability for -yet) will be taken back before being used against our own guys and gals - can things get much worse? I probably shouldn&#039;t ask this anymore b/c i asked this about a year ago and look what happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just f-ing great - this will likely add another year to our forces being there - when will the incompetence stop? - didn't anyone see this coming? - who monitors this? - i suppose all of the weapons (that we haven't lost accountability for -yet) will be taken back before being used against our own guys and gals - can things get much worse? I probably shouldn't ask this anymore b/c i asked this about a year ago and look what happened.</p>
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		<title>By: PoliBlog &#8482;: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts &#187; The Lack of an Operational Security Apparatus in Iraq and the Implications Thereof</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoliBlog &#8482;: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts &#187; The Lack of an Operational Security Apparatus in Iraq and the Implications Thereof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] James Joyner has a lengthy post on the report and some of the Blogosphere&#8217;s reaction to it. In that post he notes: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] James Joyner has a lengthy post on the report and some of the Blogosphere&#8217;s reaction to it. In that post he notes: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;In Pentagonese, I think that&#039;s one long, hyphenated word.&lt;/em&gt;

Heh. True that. Still, as the several blockquoted paragraphs that follow make clear, it&#039;s actually true in this instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>In Pentagonese, I think that's one long, hyphenated word.</em></p>
<p>Heh. True that. Still, as the several blockquoted paragraphs that follow make clear, it's actually true in this instance.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;the Pentagon is fully aware of the situation and taking proactive measures&lt;/em&gt;

Was that supposed to be funny?  Because I laughed.

In Pentagonese, I think that&#039;s one long, hyphenated word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>the Pentagon is fully aware of the situation and taking proactive measures</em></p>
<p>Was that supposed to be funny?  Because I laughed.</p>
<p>In Pentagonese, I think that's one long, hyphenated word.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A corrupt police force infiltrated in large numbers by the enemy is worse than no police force.  I haven&#039;t seen the full report yet but, presumably, current members would be eligible to join the reconstituted force after being properly vetted.

One could argue that the force could be vetted in place, simply weeding out the bad apples.  Presumably, the report will explain why that&#039;s not feasible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A corrupt police force infiltrated in large numbers by the enemy is worse than no police force.  I haven't seen the full report yet but, presumably, current members would be eligible to join the reconstituted force after being properly vetted.</p>
<p>One could argue that the force could be vetted in place, simply weeding out the bad apples.  Presumably, the report will explain why that's not feasible.</p>
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		<title>By: RALPH</title>
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		<dc:creator>RALPH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRILLIANT, PUT 25,000 MEN OUT OF WORK AND ON THE STREETS ALL PISSED OFF AT AMERICA.  ISN&#039;T THAT HOW THIS ALL GOT STARTED IN THE FIRST PLACE? (DISBANDED ARMY).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRILLIANT, PUT 25,000 MEN OUT OF WORK AND ON THE STREETS ALL PISSED OFF AT AMERICA.  ISN'T THAT HOW THIS ALL GOT STARTED IN THE FIRST PLACE? (DISBANDED ARMY).</p>
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